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    Grimlock got a reaction from j4trail in [12.08.03] CEO Kim Kwangsoo to T-Jinyo: "Come meet with me"   
    T-Jinyo has the right idea of getting the truth about the situation out. However it's unfortunate that it's mostly composed of casual Kpop fans who only joined in for the heck of it or to stir things up. It's a mob mentality. Join a cause just because. And such mentality has very poor followup.
    At this point IDC about the truth anymore, we won't ever get the full facts. As long as KKS has a hand over T-ara, anyway. Even long after T-ara is irrelevant they'll prob still have to keep it in secrecy. What does matter is that the girls are on good terms with one another.
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    Grimlock got a reaction from dora2 in [12.08.02] T-ara are victims of reckless reporters   
    I don't blame netizens or the media too much as they were on the receiving end of info and took it as they wanted to. I point the blame at KKS. The whole point of management is to diffuse any issue the girls could run into as quickly as possible. The dude dragged it on for what felt like forever. He concentrated more on protecting the CCM name, revealing dirt on Hwayoung AND at the same time trying to "protect" her, and keeping the members of T-ara [Hwayoung included] as quiet as possible. He didn't spend one ounce of his effort to save T-ara.
    Now T-ara has to carry this incident with them for the rest of their careers. Korea doesn't forgive and Korea doesn't forget. It's mind boggling how many bad business moves this guy makes and still can be successful. Just the power of T-ara, I guess. Every one says it's the netizens, media or even the group members that let this become what it is. However the fans know where to point their fingers to.
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    Grimlock reacted to boramfan in [POLL] Bullying - True or Not?   
    i think the bullying occur within t-ara is more like 'outcast'-ing. i've experienced this type of 'outcast'-ing before, and it's indeed frustrating. i believe none of t-ara members actually 'bully' (as in being btchy or stuffs like that) but when hwayoung first came and they resisted, hwayoung obviously will experience being an outcast. and that's obviously why i hate kks decision to add her and more members, made the competitive environment even worse. are t-ara guilty? yes. but i don't think they deserve this much hates and alleged 'bullying'. if anything, they've got their share of 'bullying' from netizens as well. i think the members actually don't care about hwayoung being an outcast or whatever, since they're being busy by themselves therefore if they want to hang around, they'd just hang around with the girls they're close (eunjung/jiyeon/hyomin and qri/boram/soyeon). and that's, making hwayoung an outcast. when they're frustrated for her like now, what they've done isn't something surprising either. therefore, hwayoung being outcast is like a given condition, and much worse, the company doesn't give her any help. in this situation, i don't blame hwayoung at all. she could be unprofessional, not enough determination or whatever, but she's suffered from this whole outcast-ing thing. and her tweet to back up herself is something i'd give props, because usually an outcast (since i've been an outcast too) doesn't have that much courage to stand up.
    to put it shortly, i believe a 'bullying' is happened, in this type of 'outcast'-ing form. and i've predicted it since day 1 hwayoung join. therefore, i couldn't bring myself to watch 7-ara variety shows as i sense some awkwardness. yep i disappointed that the members can't be mature enough to solve this whole outcast fiasco after one year or so debuting together. i totally disappointed that they even criticized her publicly. of course this all could be ccm public stunt went wrong, but i believe what happened behind the scenes (hwayoung being an outcast) isn't that much different from what i thought. i just hope, even truth isn't something you usually find in entertainment industry, they all can speak up about everything, apologize if necessary. therefore, if hwayoung want to go, hwayoung's departure from t-ara left no grudge. and if she wants to return, the 6-ara can be more mature and try their best to accept hwayoung into the group.
    and seriously, get a fixed leader.
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    Grimlock got a reaction from S♡NE_Diademholic in [12.08.01] Kim Kwangsoo, "I met with Hwayoung for 30 minutes"   
    Sigh, yet he still shifts the blame toward Hwayoung, the sister and T-ara. Last time I checked it was his dodging the truth and mud-slinging that fueled the fire anyways. How about, "I should've taken better care of my employees who are still very young at heart and mind". Would've at least made him look somewhat sympathetic and grateful for his employees. After all, what is CCM without T-ara.
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    Grimlock reacted to ilovekpop in [12.08.01] Hwayoung and Hyoyoung have a meeting with a new agency   
    Call me mean or whatever, but I don't want her to go back to T-ara.
    I think that she deserves to be treated better by a bigger company.
    I'm hoping that CUBE will take her in because CUBE took in rejects like BEAST and G.NA.
    I'm hoping that they will give Hwa Young a chance:)
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    Grimlock got a reaction from Rin ♥ in [12.08.01] Kim Kwangsoo, "I met with Hwayoung for 30 minutes"   
    Sigh, yet he still shifts the blame toward Hwayoung, the sister and T-ara. Last time I checked it was his dodging the truth and mud-slinging that fueled the fire anyways. How about, "I should've taken better care of my employees who are still very young at heart and mind". Would've at least made him look somewhat sympathetic and grateful for his employees. After all, what is CCM without T-ara.
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    Grimlock got a reaction from miss aj in [12.08.01] Kim Kwangsoo, "I met with Hwayoung for 30 minutes"   
    Sigh, yet he still shifts the blame toward Hwayoung, the sister and T-ara. Last time I checked it was his dodging the truth and mud-slinging that fueled the fire anyways. How about, "I should've taken better care of my employees who are still very young at heart and mind". Would've at least made him look somewhat sympathetic and grateful for his employees. After all, what is CCM without T-ara.
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    Grimlock got a reaction from mae_ash in [12.08.01] Kim Kwangsoo, "I met with Hwayoung for 30 minutes"   
    Sigh, yet he still shifts the blame toward Hwayoung, the sister and T-ara. Last time I checked it was his dodging the truth and mud-slinging that fueled the fire anyways. How about, "I should've taken better care of my employees who are still very young at heart and mind". Would've at least made him look somewhat sympathetic and grateful for his employees. After all, what is CCM without T-ara.
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    Grimlock got a reaction from xEunjungxJiyeonx in [DISC] Facts or Speculation regarding T-ara's Crisis   
    Disbanding shouldn't be the priority. The priority should be the truth. If Hwayoung is indeed wrong, where are the girls to say so. Why rely on a smear campaign to get points across. If Hwayoung is correct, where are the apologies? Not only to Hwayoung but to fans. T-ara has alienated their own fanbase. Why after several days since the incident came to light, have the same questions been asked over and over.
    For the speculation part. The girls are prob being kept quiet for a number of reasons; 1. KKS has the false notion that he can fix this situation himself and 2. They're apologetic to Hwayoung and the fans but this would go against EVERYTHING KKS has done and said so far, or 3. They indeed dislike Hwayoung...good riddance w/e but by expressing this...it's career suicide. Let it be #2. I still support T-ara but I'd rather do so by them making corrections.
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    Grimlock got a reaction from Heroholicz in [12.08.01] Kim Kwangsoo, "I met with Hwayoung for 30 minutes"   
    Sigh, yet he still shifts the blame toward Hwayoung, the sister and T-ara. Last time I checked it was his dodging the truth and mud-slinging that fueled the fire anyways. How about, "I should've taken better care of my employees who are still very young at heart and mind". Would've at least made him look somewhat sympathetic and grateful for his employees. After all, what is CCM without T-ara.
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    Grimlock got a reaction from gniyydnew in [12.08.01] Kim Kwangsoo, "I met with Hwayoung for 30 minutes"   
    Sigh, yet he still shifts the blame toward Hwayoung, the sister and T-ara. Last time I checked it was his dodging the truth and mud-slinging that fueled the fire anyways. How about, "I should've taken better care of my employees who are still very young at heart and mind". Would've at least made him look somewhat sympathetic and grateful for his employees. After all, what is CCM without T-ara.
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    Grimlock got a reaction from Dandelina in [12.08.01] Kim Kwangsoo, "I met with Hwayoung for 30 minutes"   
    Sigh, yet he still shifts the blame toward Hwayoung, the sister and T-ara. Last time I checked it was his dodging the truth and mud-slinging that fueled the fire anyways. How about, "I should've taken better care of my employees who are still very young at heart and mind". Would've at least made him look somewhat sympathetic and grateful for his employees. After all, what is CCM without T-ara.
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    Grimlock got a reaction from ParkYeonSisters in [12.08.01] Kim Kwangsoo, "I met with Hwayoung for 30 minutes"   
    Sigh, yet he still shifts the blame toward Hwayoung, the sister and T-ara. Last time I checked it was his dodging the truth and mud-slinging that fueled the fire anyways. How about, "I should've taken better care of my employees who are still very young at heart and mind". Would've at least made him look somewhat sympathetic and grateful for his employees. After all, what is CCM without T-ara.
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    Grimlock got a reaction from sleepyjm95 in [12.08.01] Kim Kwangsoo, "I met with Hwayoung for 30 minutes"   
    Sigh, yet he still shifts the blame toward Hwayoung, the sister and T-ara. Last time I checked it was his dodging the truth and mud-slinging that fueled the fire anyways. How about, "I should've taken better care of my employees who are still very young at heart and mind". Would've at least made him look somewhat sympathetic and grateful for his employees. After all, what is CCM without T-ara.
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    Grimlock got a reaction from i2Ayumi in [12.08.01] Kim Kwangsoo, "I met with Hwayoung for 30 minutes"   
    Sigh, yet he still shifts the blame toward Hwayoung, the sister and T-ara. Last time I checked it was his dodging the truth and mud-slinging that fueled the fire anyways. How about, "I should've taken better care of my employees who are still very young at heart and mind". Would've at least made him look somewhat sympathetic and grateful for his employees. After all, what is CCM without T-ara.
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    Grimlock got a reaction from breakingheart_ in [12.08.01] Kim Kwangsoo, "I met with Hwayoung for 30 minutes"   
    Sigh, yet he still shifts the blame toward Hwayoung, the sister and T-ara. Last time I checked it was his dodging the truth and mud-slinging that fueled the fire anyways. How about, "I should've taken better care of my employees who are still very young at heart and mind". Would've at least made him look somewhat sympathetic and grateful for his employees. After all, what is CCM without T-ara.
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    Grimlock got a reaction from angel_rm in [12.08.01] Kim Kwangsoo, "I met with Hwayoung for 30 minutes"   
    Sigh, yet he still shifts the blame toward Hwayoung, the sister and T-ara. Last time I checked it was his dodging the truth and mud-slinging that fueled the fire anyways. How about, "I should've taken better care of my employees who are still very young at heart and mind". Would've at least made him look somewhat sympathetic and grateful for his employees. After all, what is CCM without T-ara.
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    Grimlock got a reaction from xEunjungxJiyeonx in [12.07. 30] T-ara's agency "Hwayoung, refused to perform during a live show, 'I can't go on stage.'"   
    Not only feel but support what she did. Not the most mature thing, I admit but I'd do the same thing. Let's put it in normal people terms. Monday you hang with friends, they make negative remakes verbally. Tuesday, when they asked you to hang out again, do you happily oblige? I wouldn't. So later Tuesday one of the friends makes a public post not directly talking about you bot doing so in a passive manner. The worst kind IMO. That's public and proud cowardice. Come Wednesday I would be heated.
    REGARDLESS, that is my opinion. The only thing that matters is I hope Hwayoung sees this as the "darkest before dawn". And T-ara in general for not only being involved in this situation but being further manipulated by a certain CEO. Hwayoung did what none of them dared to do.
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    Grimlock got a reaction from xEunjungxJiyeonx in [12.07. 30] T-ara's agency "Hwayoung, refused to perform during a live show, 'I can't go on stage.'"   
    Readers - keep in mind she did so AFTER the Budokan concert, which if I recall is where this incident started. As a person, I'd be upset and would act similarly to Hwayoung after receiving such treatment then asked to perform with and for the same people not long after.
    I applaud Hwayoung. Don't take this crap sitting down.
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    Grimlock got a reaction from scwl93 in [12.08.01] Kim Kwangsoo, "I met with Hwayoung for 30 minutes"   
    Sigh, yet he still shifts the blame toward Hwayoung, the sister and T-ara. Last time I checked it was his dodging the truth and mud-slinging that fueled the fire anyways. How about, "I should've taken better care of my employees who are still very young at heart and mind". Would've at least made him look somewhat sympathetic and grateful for his employees. After all, what is CCM without T-ara.
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    Grimlock reacted to light-plus in [POLL] Bullying - True or Not?   
    - The definition of 'Bullying' is in the eye of the beholder. Physical bullying, Verbal bullying, Psychological bullying. Outcasting/isolation. Public embarrassment. Gossip. Prejudice. Cold attitude. Those are all forms of bullying.
    And mind you, bullying can be in different frequencies. Daily, once in a while, when someone's having a bad day, once or twice. But that doesn't mean it never happened even if it only happened once.
    Here's one way to help anyone define 'bullying': if someone did that to you, would you be hurt? If I punched you in the mouth, that would hurt right? But what if your friends started leaving you? What if they constantly laughed at you and your mistakes, even if they were your 'friends'? What if the people you live with, your family, avoided you. What if your classmates sneered at you and gossiped about you? Would it hurt?
    A few more points:
    - Hwayoung is unhappy (that's not to say T-ara isn't unhappy though).
    - Hyoyoung is Hwayoung's other half. They probably share things a lot, and share things they wouldn't share to anyone else. Call me stupid or foolish, but I trust in Hyoyoung's words.
    - Anything T-ara says from now on is highly likely to be scripted; this includes Tweets, speeches, announcements, etc. So anyone saying, "I'll wait for T-ara to say something" "I won't believe anything unless T-ara says it". Well. You'll be waiting a while, and you'll be waiting for nothing. Also, (assuming it did happen) admitting to something like that is hard, especially to your fans. Trust me, admitting your darkest side's existence to the world is not something on any idol's to do list.
    - Anything KKS says is highly likely to be something stupid. You have 5 days worth of his idiocy, fairytales, lies, and contradictions as proof.
    - Now switch your thinking. Instead of what has happened, think about what hasn't. All those rumors about bullying have ignited into a giant bonfire. Yet KKM has only refuted it once, saying they weren't bullying her (which was in Hwayoung's contract termination press release). All the other times, he says "it has nothing to do with the 'bullying' rumors".
    If I was in charge of these sweet little girls and was sure they would never do such a thing, I would stop at nothing to stop all rumors. After all, where do the roots of all this start? It wasn't actually Hwayoung leaving if you think about it. It's why she left. Why did she leave? People aren't outraged mostly because of the fact that Hwayoung has left, but because of why. Because she was 'bullied'. If I was KKS, I would think of T-ara and their image before your own pride. Take the time to clear T-ara's name as 'bullies' (if they aren't) instead of trying to take down Hwayoung's name as 'victim'.
    But it's kind of hard to do that if it really did happen. If he would publicly stress the part of T-ara not bullying Hwayoung, yet it was false, then he'd be in danger of Hwayoung speaking the truth of her being bullied. And if KKS releases a statement saying T-ara are not bullies, and Hwayoung replies saying that she was in fact bullied, who do you think the public would believe?
    But as I said. It all depends on what you, as a fan, and what the public+netizens think 'bullying' is. Where I live, 'bullying' is usually on of those big kids beating a kid up for lunch money. However, because of culture difference, the more common form of bullying in Korea is making someone a "social outcast" (wangdda). Search it up, it's pretty interesting . And sad.
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    Grimlock reacted to nathaniel in [12.07.31] T-ara's Eunjung, "Thank you.. and I'm sorry"   
    [12.07.31] T-ara's Eunjung, "Thank you.. and I'm sorry"





    T-ara's Eunjung has left a heartfelt message.
    On the 30th, Eunjung left a message on her official fansite "EunChanNet" that said "Thank you very much.. I'm sorry."
    Since Hwayoung's contract with T-ara was terminated, this is the first statement from any of the others members of T-ara.
    ***
    Source: http://news.nate.com/view/20120731n31334
    Translated by: Nathaniel @ Diadem
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    Grimlock reacted to Ego in [12.08.01] Over dramatic? "T-ara and Hwayoung both shed tears last night"   
    This is actually sounds true, atleast KKS has stopped BullShitting us for the time being.
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    Grimlock reacted to Ego in [12.08.01] Core Contents Media, "Dani will not join T-ara early"   
    No one cares about Dani right now, sorry to the Dani biases but its true.
    The situation pertains to 7-Ara and 7-Ara only.
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    Grimlock got a reaction from Robo in [12.08.01] Kim Kwangsoo, "I met with Hwayoung for 30 minutes"   
    Sigh, yet he still shifts the blame toward Hwayoung, the sister and T-ara. Last time I checked it was his dodging the truth and mud-slinging that fueled the fire anyways. How about, "I should've taken better care of my employees who are still very young at heart and mind". Would've at least made him look somewhat sympathetic and grateful for his employees. After all, what is CCM without T-ara.
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