Collar McPoppins

boo hoo hoo. stop crying. this is exactly what i talked about in another post. t-ara fans will blindly stick up for t-ara and thats exactly what KKS wants. he expects all the fans to love t-ara no matter what. i said it before ill say it again.
i will not support KKS, and if that means i have to also not support t-ara in the process i am willing to do that. i will not purchase or watch anything t-ara without hwayoung involved.
and again if it is revealed hwayoung doesnt want to come back to t-ara (which i couldnt blame her after all this) then i will have no problem accepting it. cant say id still feel the same way about t-ara or comfortable supporting them meaning that money is going to the poopface KKS.
KKS damaged t-ara and is unwilling to admit fault and take the steps needed to fix it.
take a stand and save t-ara. dont sit back and let KKS win.
HWAYOUNG FOREVER

i never understood this sort of thing. how is someone dumping water on themselves controversial. i dont see how it relates to anything.
yes i understand there was a tragedy in south korea. its a horrible event. my thoughts and prayers to everyone.
but even so. i remember when i lost family when the world trade centers collapsed on 9/11. and they did the same thing back then. they removed songs from air waves that may "remind" people of that event. they removed the twin towers from the spider man trailers at the time. (just throwing an example out there)
none of it bothered me. none of those images made me feel bad. because if you live through something like that, its always going to be with you. whether you see it on TV (anywhere) or hear about it. and you cant hide from those things. you cant live the rest of your life hiding from images or things related to that event.
i understand the mindset to be respectful, but really, you putting all that effort into protecting me from seeing and hearing things you thought i wouldnt want to see or hear, didnt help me at all. just because i didnt see the twin towers in a spider man movie didnt make me forget. just like seeing the twin towers in a picture i have in my house didnt make me break down in anxiety either.

thank you for the thought, but you know, just not worth the effort. you spent all that time working hard on your art. i say keep it in. dont ruin your work because of me. dont let me be the reason you cripple your work. if anything its offensive to me, to say im the reason you changed your art.

just another perspective to take into account.

and i dont understand why this article is so cryptic. just say who it is.

there is more than one perspective which i kindly pointed out. there are people out there like me, who take a degree of offense to being pitied or something.

so if you want to respect the families, respect them all. not just one. but pleasing everyone is next to impossible isnt it?
if anything, you could put a disclaimer on the video. or make a censored version.

i know this incident isnt about me, i never said it was. but there was a time it was about me (so they said) as i was one of the families they thought they were respecting. i was just sharing a similar experience. not everyone needs or wants to be protected. dont tell me what i should or shouldnt see and use my deceased family as an excuse why. thats my perspective and im sure there are many others who have the same one as me. i know that perspective isnt the only one. it may not be the most popular either. but that doesnt mean it is any more or less important than any other.

sorry if i was misunderstood. i did not mean to sound disrespectful. i did not wish to argue with anyone either. not fellow t-ara fans and not over a tragedy.

there is more than one perspective which i kindly pointed out. there are people out there like me, who take a degree of offense to being pitied or something.

so if you want to respect the families, respect them all. not just one. but pleasing everyone is next to impossible isnt it?
if anything, you could put a disclaimer on the video. or make a censored version.

i know this incident isnt about me, i never said it was. but there was a time it was about me (so they said) as i was one of the families they thought they were respecting. i was just sharing a similar experience. not everyone needs or wants to be protected. dont tell me what i should or shouldnt see and use my deceased family as an excuse why. thats my perspective and im sure there are many others who have the same one as me. i know that perspective isnt the only one. it may not be the most popular either. but that doesnt mean it is any more or less important than any other.

sorry if i was misunderstood. i did not mean to sound disrespectful. i did not wish to argue with anyone either. not fellow t-ara fans and not over a tragedy.

i never understood this sort of thing. how is someone dumping water on themselves controversial. i dont see how it relates to anything.
yes i understand there was a tragedy in south korea. its a horrible event. my thoughts and prayers to everyone.
but even so. i remember when i lost family when the world trade centers collapsed on 9/11. and they did the same thing back then. they removed songs from air waves that may "remind" people of that event. they removed the twin towers from the spider man trailers at the time. (just throwing an example out there)
none of it bothered me. none of those images made me feel bad. because if you live through something like that, its always going to be with you. whether you see it on TV (anywhere) or hear about it. and you cant hide from those things. you cant live the rest of your life hiding from images or things related to that event.
i understand the mindset to be respectful, but really, you putting all that effort into protecting me from seeing and hearing things you thought i wouldnt want to see or hear, didnt help me at all. just because i didnt see the twin towers in a spider man movie didnt make me forget. just like seeing the twin towers in a picture i have in my house didnt make me break down in anxiety either.

thank you for the thought, but you know, just not worth the effort. you spent all that time working hard on your art. i say keep it in. dont ruin your work because of me. dont let me be the reason you cripple your work. if anything its offensive to me, to say im the reason you changed your art.

just another perspective to take into account.

and i dont understand why this article is so cryptic. just say who it is.

i never understood this sort of thing. how is someone dumping water on themselves controversial. i dont see how it relates to anything.
yes i understand there was a tragedy in south korea. its a horrible event. my thoughts and prayers to everyone.
but even so. i remember when i lost family when the world trade centers collapsed on 9/11. and they did the same thing back then. they removed songs from air waves that may "remind" people of that event. they removed the twin towers from the spider man trailers at the time. (just throwing an example out there)
none of it bothered me. none of those images made me feel bad. because if you live through something like that, its always going to be with you. whether you see it on TV (anywhere) or hear about it. and you cant hide from those things. you cant live the rest of your life hiding from images or things related to that event.
i understand the mindset to be respectful, but really, you putting all that effort into protecting me from seeing and hearing things you thought i wouldnt want to see or hear, didnt help me at all. just because i didnt see the twin towers in a spider man movie didnt make me forget. just like seeing the twin towers in a picture i have in my house didnt make me break down in anxiety either.

thank you for the thought, but you know, just not worth the effort. you spent all that time working hard on your art. i say keep it in. dont ruin your work because of me. dont let me be the reason you cripple your work. if anything its offensive to me, to say im the reason you changed your art.

just another perspective to take into account.

and i dont understand why this article is so cryptic. just say who it is.

i never understood this sort of thing. how is someone dumping water on themselves controversial. i dont see how it relates to anything.
yes i understand there was a tragedy in south korea. its a horrible event. my thoughts and prayers to everyone.
but even so. i remember when i lost family when the world trade centers collapsed on 9/11. and they did the same thing back then. they removed songs from air waves that may "remind" people of that event. they removed the twin towers from the spider man trailers at the time. (just throwing an example out there)
none of it bothered me. none of those images made me feel bad. because if you live through something like that, its always going to be with you. whether you see it on TV (anywhere) or hear about it. and you cant hide from those things. you cant live the rest of your life hiding from images or things related to that event.
i understand the mindset to be respectful, but really, you putting all that effort into protecting me from seeing and hearing things you thought i wouldnt want to see or hear, didnt help me at all. just because i didnt see the twin towers in a spider man movie didnt make me forget. just like seeing the twin towers in a picture i have in my house didnt make me break down in anxiety either.

thank you for the thought, but you know, just not worth the effort. you spent all that time working hard on your art. i say keep it in. dont ruin your work because of me. dont let me be the reason you cripple your work. if anything its offensive to me, to say im the reason you changed your art.

just another perspective to take into account.

and i dont understand why this article is so cryptic. just say who it is.

3 months too late IMO. i know KKS was the reason they had to keep quiet and all so im not mad at t-ara. just sucks they have to deal with his blowback. sucks they have to feel the pain that kks caused.

stop blaming netizens for t-aras misfortune. this has everything to do with KKS and his poor decision making. removing hwayoung from the group was a terrible choice and everything that unfolded because of it is what they call JUSTICE. (or karma)
its just a shame t-ara and the people close to them have to suffer as well.
KKS wants the fans (And everyone else) to just forget what happened. remove hwayoung, fill her role with someone else and just continue on like its no big deal and that a key member being removed wont have any backlash on t-ara.
that sends thee mssage that the members are easily replaceable. not just hwayoung, any of them. imagine how the others feel. why do you think soyeon was all "OMG I CANT NOT FILM MY DRAMA EVEN AFTER I ALMOST BROKE MY NECK!!" she cant look lazy in front of KKS. she must work no matter what!
but u also cant expect fans to just be like "ok hwayoung is gone, whatever". and if you do have that mentality, you are just eating out of KKS hands like a puppet. sure u want to support t-ara and all that. but by mindlessly supporting t-ara you are also hurting t-ara by supporting KKS and his dictatorship.
fans, netizens anyone need to stand up to KKS and show him his actions were wrong.
i will not support KKS, and if that means i have to also not support t-ara in the process i am willing to do that. i will not purchase or watch anything t-ara without hwayoung involved.
and again if it is revealed hwayoung doesnt want to come back to t-ara (which i couldnt blame her after all this) then i will have no problem accepting it. cant say id still feel the same way about t-ara or comfortable supporting them meaning that money is going to the poopface KKS.
KKS damaged t-ara and is unwilling to admit fault and take the steps needed to fix it.

boo hoo hoo. stop crying. this is exactly what i talked about in another post. t-ara fans will blindly stick up for t-ara and thats exactly what KKS wants. he expects all the fans to love t-ara no matter what. i said it before ill say it again.
i will not support KKS, and if that means i have to also not support t-ara in the process i am willing to do that. i will not purchase or watch anything t-ara without hwayoung involved.
and again if it is revealed hwayoung doesnt want to come back to t-ara (which i couldnt blame her after all this) then i will have no problem accepting it. cant say id still feel the same way about t-ara or comfortable supporting them meaning that money is going to the poopface KKS.
KKS damaged t-ara and is unwilling to admit fault and take the steps needed to fix it.
take a stand and save t-ara. dont sit back and let KKS win.
HWAYOUNG FOREVER

how would photos from months ago give people the impression that hwayoung was back? and speculate rumors?
and even if it did somehow get peopel to thikn such a crazy thing, you make it sound like hwayoung coming back is a bad thing or impossible when KKS himself said in the future hwayoung could rejoin.
and please tell me how not adding hwayoung in the book will not make antis speak up when they thrive on hwayoung being bullied and excluded. which is exactly whats going on.
if anything its just making it worse.
keep defending KKS and CCMs dictator behavior. thats exactly what he wants.
Point is the album contains hwayoungs vocals, not having her in the album art is just stupid. she was a member during the time the tracks were made, and helped them get to the top. excluding her for any reason is not acceptable. period.

i was gona get this, until i found out all pics that contain hwayoung are editted to not show her or shes not pictured at all.
another sorry attempt by CCM and KKS to try to get the puppets to forget she ever existed and was with t-ara and helped them to get where they were.
erase all the memories! even the good ones! (evil KKS laugh)

i was gona get this, until i found out all pics that contain hwayoung are editted to not show her or shes not pictured at all.
another sorry attempt by CCM and KKS to try to get the puppets to forget she ever existed and was with t-ara and helped them to get where they were.
erase all the memories! even the good ones! (evil KKS laugh)

who cares. seriously. this is bogus. hwayoung gets removed from the group and it gets over shadowed by eunjung being removed from a tv show?
i dont wannahear about rights and justice until hwayoung has hers.

after watching hwayoung get the axe for not performing with an injury, soyeon has the fear of god in her now. if she doesnt work, she will be labeled a "top star" and "arrogant" and "comfortable with her success".
what do you expect with the dictator KKS running things.
these girls are so afraid they break into tears just asking the press not to ask about the hwayoung situation. because god forbid they say anything that KKS doesnt permit them to. then they all will be looking for a new record contract with another label.

[12.08.05] True or not, the public will only believe what they want about T-ara's bullying situation
YOU DONT SAY

what exactly did hwayoung do? what makes her arrogant and selfish?
what theories about hwayoung do you believe but are so quick to dismiss theories about other members?

dear KKS. if your next news announcement about t-ara isnt "hwayoung is back" then keep your mouth shut. we dont care about these trivial updates about the drama. we care about t-ara being whole. so make it happen or go away.

if hwayoung leaves, i leave. sad news after 3 year anniversary. o well. it was a fun 3 years while it lasted. good bye fellow t-ara fans. maybe if hwayoung comes back so will i. until then i bid you farewell.

i dont really stay up to date with t-ara as much as i used to.
i wasnt even aware hwayoung was hurt, but i guess thats why i wasnt seeing her in any pictures of their recent japan performances. makes sense now. when i first heard their was an anouncement being made (from their facebook page) i had no idea that this was the reason behind it. i was hoping it would be some kind of anouncement on future tour dates. (possibly america! keeping my fingers crossed for the future!)
im still not sure whats going on. iread the story and the tweets, but i dont know korean and have to keep in mind when translated may not come off with the same tone and context as english. so it could be mistaken as harsh. or maybe it is harsh. i dont know, so i cant say for sure.
but what i do know is :
Hwayoung has come a long way after joining t-ara late. since her debut with the group she has changed the most out of any member. not only looks of course, but as far as stage presence, her rapping potential, (potential as a performer in general voice, dance) and her attitude in front of a camera is much more lively and fan friendly.
if it's one thing i have seen from hwayoung its that she has been one of thee most hard working and dedicated members of t-ara. and not only t-ara but in all of the k-pop scene. so much that hwayoung has become my favorite member.
i know there is alot that goes on that we dont see as fans. and i know there are times when even the best of friends have disagreements. so if these remarks are meant to be hurtful and to question hwayoungs dedication it comes off shocking to me, who as a fan has seen nothing but the opposite from her.
thats all i can really say. ill just remain in good faith and hope its all just a misunderstanding.
keep your head up hwayoung your fans will support you no matter what! same for the rest of t-ara!
we're always with you.

i dont really stay up to date with t-ara as much as i used to.
i wasnt even aware hwayoung was hurt, but i guess thats why i wasnt seeing her in any pictures of their recent japan performances. makes sense now. when i first heard their was an anouncement being made (from their facebook page) i had no idea that this was the reason behind it. i was hoping it would be some kind of anouncement on future tour dates. (possibly america! keeping my fingers crossed for the future!)
im still not sure whats going on. iread the story and the tweets, but i dont know korean and have to keep in mind when translated may not come off with the same tone and context as english. so it could be mistaken as harsh. or maybe it is harsh. i dont know, so i cant say for sure.
but what i do know is :
Hwayoung has come a long way after joining t-ara late. since her debut with the group she has changed the most out of any member. not only looks of course, but as far as stage presence, her rapping potential, (potential as a performer in general voice, dance) and her attitude in front of a camera is much more lively and fan friendly.
if it's one thing i have seen from hwayoung its that she has been one of thee most hard working and dedicated members of t-ara. and not only t-ara but in all of the k-pop scene. so much that hwayoung has become my favorite member.
i know there is alot that goes on that we dont see as fans. and i know there are times when even the best of friends have disagreements. so if these remarks are meant to be hurtful and to question hwayoungs dedication it comes off shocking to me, who as a fan has seen nothing but the opposite from her.
thats all i can really say. ill just remain in good faith and hope its all just a misunderstanding.
keep your head up hwayoung your fans will support you no matter what! same for the rest of t-ara!
we're always with you.

i dont really stay up to date with t-ara as much as i used to.
i wasnt even aware hwayoung was hurt, but i guess thats why i wasnt seeing her in any pictures of their recent japan performances. makes sense now. when i first heard their was an anouncement being made (from their facebook page) i had no idea that this was the reason behind it. i was hoping it would be some kind of anouncement on future tour dates. (possibly america! keeping my fingers crossed for the future!)
im still not sure whats going on. iread the story and the tweets, but i dont know korean and have to keep in mind when translated may not come off with the same tone and context as english. so it could be mistaken as harsh. or maybe it is harsh. i dont know, so i cant say for sure.
but what i do know is :
Hwayoung has come a long way after joining t-ara late. since her debut with the group she has changed the most out of any member. not only looks of course, but as far as stage presence, her rapping potential, (potential as a performer in general voice, dance) and her attitude in front of a camera is much more lively and fan friendly.
if it's one thing i have seen from hwayoung its that she has been one of thee most hard working and dedicated members of t-ara. and not only t-ara but in all of the k-pop scene. so much that hwayoung has become my favorite member.
i know there is alot that goes on that we dont see as fans. and i know there are times when even the best of friends have disagreements. so if these remarks are meant to be hurtful and to question hwayoungs dedication it comes off shocking to me, who as a fan has seen nothing but the opposite from her.
thats all i can really say. ill just remain in good faith and hope its all just a misunderstanding.
keep your head up hwayoung your fans will support you no matter what! same for the rest of t-ara!
we're always with you.

im too old to keep up with this crap. im not in this guys head. i dont know what he knows or fully understand his way of thinking.
with that said t-ara is one of the best sources of music right now in general, not just kpop. and i just hope they keep that up. thats whats important.
i wasnt keen when hwayoung came into the picture but now she is a main face earning her spot and having a decent role. and she is my favorite member. who is to say that cant happen again.
i just hope it really if for the "growth" and t-aras "future". however i have not heard anyone (fans) being very supportive of this idea, i mean im no exception. t-ara is on top of the game right now and i say if it aint broke dont fix it.
i made a post about it on another thread like this like a day or 2 ago and i dont wana say the same things.
whatever happens i will always support the 7 members whereever they go in life.

ok im sorry. but im going to rant here.
Hyomin, Jiyeon and Eunjung take acting roles and it ALWAYS interferes with their schedules. one of those 3 are always missing from a performance. 70% of the time when t-ara performs they are usually performing 6/7 members (or 5/6 before hwayoung). and during these times 2 of them were the leader.
now Qri gets offered a nice role, and she doesnt do it because it will "interfere" with her schedule? WHAT SCHEDULE?
the same ones hyomin and eunjung skip out on all the time?
and hyomin and eunjung are members of t-ara who actually sing more than one line. it's not liek Qri missing a few promotions would make that big of a difference. maybe she would get more lines if she was given her own chance to shine and be seen outside t-ara in a new light.
she gets a chance to get some solo promotions and she doesnt take it because she cant miss her stage performances where she will say the intro line to a song and then stand in the background with boram while soyeon jiyeon and hwayoung do the rest. (hyomin and eunjung wil be off filming their own dramas.)
i am angered by this choice and i think qri should have taken the role.
CCM get your managing skills together.

i was really glad when t-ara started to promote over seas. i think they started promoting in japan a little late compared to some other girl groups. but now they are very popular in japan and i think they can be just as popular worldwide as SNSD, CCM just needs to market them more. their sound is more consistent and has a club friendly feel that would do well here in america. i know they lack an "english speaker" like snsd, but i dont think that matters all too much.. i hope their concert in san fran california does well so they can come again in the future. i would love to see t-ara live here in madison square garden one day.