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I'm currently trying to get the Korea Tourism Organization to sponsor them, but they said they might not have the budget for it. If you locals could contact any of the sponsors listed on their website to see how they'll be distributing tickets, that would be great!
As for Diadem staff in Hawaii, I don't think there are any. However, If we can somehow secure a few tickets, I will definitely go and organize a support.
I wasn't able to get any information from the sponsors about the event. My associates have mentioned that they were hitting roadblocks of problems. The Blaisdell office didn't even have the event scheduled on their calendar, ever since this thread appeared. I think the budget is one of the main problems, but it seems everything was in disarray from the start, because there's now an update on the webpage that states, . . .
"Due to delays in organizing the event, the HIMA-Fest Award Ceremony will not be held at the Blaisdell Arena on November 23rd, 2013. Thank you for your understanding."If you ask me, they should've organized way before making the announcement.
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I can't wait for the full release of the song and music video, for their "Number Nine". But I have to ask, how many versions of the music video will they release? Will there be a dance version, a remix version, drama version, and/or close-up version, besides the original version?
In any case though, can't wait for their comeback and to hear their other songs.
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It's good news to hear T-ara is doing well in Japan again, and as always, they look beautiful for their concept ensembles.
More details about their comeback song. I can't wait to hear it fully and see their full music video.
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While I generally refrain from answering back to you Ryu, the whole let loose on CCM HQ was a joke, derp, although yeah might have been taken to far.
Second who I was trying to quote is Eliphas and the quote goes like this : "These are the BLood Ravens, finest slaves of the dead emperor. We owe them much more then a quick death". The slave part wasn't referring to Sso but to CCM,because I view them with the same content as Eliphas view Loyalists (look up 40K wiki for more in debt explanation this forum is not for that).
Also I am happy for Sso as well and if she gets married and has a happy family life all the better I wish her the best. What I wanted to point out mentioning Hara as example is that idols take heavy flak for having relationships, and are the target of gossip, while I do hope Sso will not be slandered the same way I can't help but worry as T-aras members have all been through some bad times already.That was a bad joke that shouldn't have been entertained, if you ask me, knowing full well the civil war is still going on. And I really don't see the point in quoting, or even viewing this from a dead and failed Chaos Traitor Marine, at the end of the 3rd Aurelian Crusade, which doesn't even metaphorically describe correctly about Core Contents Media's and T-ara's current circumstances. Chaos in general glorifies and embraces failure. No point in being in their side. T-ara are nonetheless employees of Core Contents Media, so even mentioning Core Contents Media as a whole, that includes T-ara and their labelmates too in that regard.
Granted that there's a degree of worry about relationships going public, but not all public relationships are bad. Just look at how many couples there are in public already. It's really up to the couple to make it work, even during their married years, even with children. What happened with Hara was her decision. It had nothing to do with the public. That was just her personal life, as it is with Soyeon. We all hope they last a life time, nothing wrong with that.
As for the future, there's always chances of success and failures in life. All we can do is hope and do the best we can to succeed and endure onward.
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Trailer looks awesome.
Hyomin looks gorgeous and her performance has lots of energy and presence just from looking at this trailer.
I can't wait to see this movie.
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Soyeon in a relationship for 3 years means there's no bad blood between Core Contents Media and DSP Media. Antis once again, gets another dose of reality, and fail miserably in trying to convince others with their continuing acts of illogical, imbecilic delusions. I approve and support Soyeon and Oh Jonghyuk, and hope they stay happy together.
I'm a fanboy and Soyeon is my ultimate bias, but guess what? As long as she's happy, i'm happy too ^^. I hope that we'll hear the announcement of their wedding soon, even if this means that she will not be a part of T-ara anymore.I don't think when an artist gets married, that doesn't necessarily means disbandment. There's lots of artists who are married and still continue to perform. This just means the T-ara Family got bigger, 3 years ago.
Well She seems happy and I wish both of them the best, but why do i get the distinct feeling that this is could potentially get ugly, I mean openly admitting to dating, generally tends to end up blowing up in the girlfriends face (think Hara of Kara). Anyway I hope this will work for her I mean she deserves some happiness and love in her life especially after all the hardships she had to go through up till now, but I've come to learn that with idols things are never straightforward or easy or normal for that matter.
I mean we are talking about CCM/KKS here finest slaves... whatever they are slaves of , they deserve much more than K2 assault rifles and grenades.Pretty sure Hara is the one who broke the relationship off, not the other way around. All couples face that possibility, no matter how long they've been together. I was told recently that Dynamic Duo's Choiza broke up with his girlfriend, and they've been together for 6 years. Se7en, 10+ years, well, I don't know about their relationship status quo is right now, but that one is an example of a rocky relationship. For Soyeon and Jonghyuk, we must respect, support, and allow their relationship to follow their own path in life.
Hopefully, one day right down to the wedding alter.T-ara were not slaves to begin with. If Soyeon was seeing Jonghyuk for 3 years, that doesn't even fall into the description of a slave. And I do find the whole violence and murder way out of context and very highly unnecessary to this article. Also, I find it so idiotic of antis to even think he would do such things when it's so contradicting to hurt his girlfriend's career by doing that, and end up either getting killed in the process, or ending up in jail. Remember, "every eligible male serves in the military in South Korea", so this begs the question, how many military trained and skilled people are there in Core Contents Media? Antis are so very dumb.
She is a 26 year old woman. Who in their right mind expected her to never date? Look at that picture, she's obviously happy and that is more than I hoped for. Happiness doesn't come in the form of allkills and selling out tours. I really hope they stay happy and content with each other.
The only thing that makes me wary is the fact that it was Seoul Sports that broke the news. We all know that gossip rag has nothing but contempt for T-ara and CCM. And all of this before their comeback. It doesn't feel right.We agree together on the whole T-ara dating and happiness for them.
Yes, Sports Seoul likes to jump to conclusions a lot when it comes to the private lives of celebrities. It's well known that some media reporters are T-ara Antis, ever since the media reporters started publishing everywhere about how bad T-ara's manners were to them that one time. I won't be surprised Sports Seoul has a few of them amongst their ranks. And I certainly don't blame Core Contents Media for that complaint, especially when they filed lawsuits against media outlets for not getting their facts straight for the Hwayoung Incident. Pretty sure that office complaint happened after those lawsuits.
But I think we're clear though, because there's more support for Soyeon, because both Core Contents Media and DSP Media totally back them, which we're left to guess that Soyeon and Jonghyuk are okay with this couple news. I wish them the very best in happiness, and hope their relationship stays firm and strong together. It would be very nice to have a T-ara and Click-B collaboration sometime in the near future.
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Hallyu Dream Concert sounds perfect for their stage performance comeback, and releasing the single 2 days before sounds good to me too.
I like the music video teaser, and await its full release.
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October 10th, marked and waiting for their comeback.
Shinsadong Tiger hasn't given me any disappointments thus far yet, when it comes to T-ara. Can't wait to hear their "Number 9" song, and see their newest music video very soon. T-ara Fighting!
T-ara release as a 6-member group is epic. It's original and best.6-ara is not the original, 5-ara were the originals. And T-ara continued onward to become bigger and better even after they added Hwayoung.
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"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery".
If the statement from the representative is true then kudos to T-ara and team for coming up with an image and concepts that other kpop groups find worthy of following. It is always nice to hear of T-ara's inspiration and legacy to kpop.
What is not so nice to hear is the many very negative comments and criticism about Crayon Pop that is out there. Bad management, childish, too cutesy, dumb, bla bla bla. Personally, I think Crayon Pop and crew should be commended for taking the bold step and risk by coming up with a quirky, cutesy and easy to follow dance moves concept for Bar Bar Bar. We are already so familliar with the typical kpop mv of pretty boys/girls and their slick dance moves, so for something like Bar Bar Bar to come out, it really is refreshing. Breaking from the norm was also one of the factors in the success of Psy's Gangnam Style. In fact, as mentioned by T-ara, one of the reasons for the success of T-ara is their change in concepts and styles.
Judging from Bar Bar Bar place in the charts, one cannot deny that the song has done quite well despite the numerous criticisms hurled at it. Not bad for a rookie group. You can't fault them for trying. As for those haters with their 'smart' observations and comments, what achievements have you all made for yourselves since you all seem to be 'smarter' than the people behind Crayon Pop?
Yes, people are entitled to their opinions but some of these comments are just plain insulting. If these hate comments or 'opinions' are valid then T-ara haters' comments are valid as well, right?Agreed about the imitation as a form of flattery in the entertainment world, especially when it comes to fans who mimic their favorite entertainment concepts, even if it's resulting in bad taste, but good effort is still obviously visible.
There is a difference between comments to a degree, wherein the borders are drawn between facts and assumptions. Take for an example what happened to IU about the whole nonsense about her marriage and pregnancy, just because of that photo upload of her and one of the Super Junior members. Antis have come to this belief and practice that by making up the most dumbest and illogical paranoid stories about reality and life, they are trying to brainwash others and attempt to drag them down to their own personal hells, just so they can feel more comfortable knowing they are making them suffer without knowing the obvious truth, and feel supreme at the same time. In a nutshell, stupefying others for their own amusement. Plus, they like to think they can control the flow of information, which in fact, they can't, period. Henceforth, T-ara antis, even in general for all antis, don't have creditability in what they say. Calling on antis' mistakes with facts is completely fine and valid. Initially, antis try to call on the mistakes on others with no sense of propriety, and fail miserably, because they don't have any sense of logic or reasoning, let alone produce any effort to find understanding in what happened and/or get the full story to avoid jumping to any unneeded conclusions, to justify such comments resulting to their complete invalidation. Even more so, they can't let go of a previous transgressions, when the immediate parties involved, have already been apologized, forgiven, and moved on already to more challenges, and attempt to convince others that such problems are still ongoing, when in truth, they're not. The utter childishness of antis.
This forum has already made it's stand against T-ara antis in the forum rules. I swear, T-ara antis have very profound reading comprehension problems and issues.
On a lighter note, I would very much like to hear T-ara's thoughts on Chrome Entertainment's C.E.O.'s inspirational reveal about them. Dare I even say, that I would like to see some sort of T-ara/Crayon Pop collaboration in the future.
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To be honest a lot of Queens are Kamilias as well (myself included though not the Japanese stuff, since that is too cutesy for me), so I don't really see why KKS is so hell bent on slandering Kara, it's not like they are a direct rival to T-ara in any way, nor will their recent comeback effect T-ara October one, timing or concept wise. I just don't get it, if KKS/CCM is to a degree behind the Kara controversy getting blown out of proportion (though I'm speculating here) what are they going to get out of this.
Exactly.
Antis has a very loose bearing on what's logic and rationality, especially when it comes to Kim Kwang Soo. Have they sat down and talked with him about his business methods? I do remember him offering a sit down and chat to discuss about such things, oh wait, antis backed off because they felt more comfortable about the way they think, . . . thinking like a bunch of ignorant, idiotic, foolish, degenerates who can't comprehend beyond their delusion ways of belief and absurdity. They are clinging onto this assumption that he's some sort of crime boss in K.E.P.A. (Korean Entertainment Producers Association), when in fact, he is not, and only the Vice Chairman. Antis try to match other artists to other artists without even realizing that there's no solid direct connection between the issues.According to T-ara's interview, they don't see him like antis' delusional thinking, not even close. Just because a media, and surely not the only media outlet, that covers what's going on with Kara, has no proof to even claim that Kim Kwang Soo is out to get them, even when he's a member of K.E.P.A., doesn't mean he has absolute power over the other members. None whatsoever. Especially when business organizations are created on business and cooperation, not crime. Plus, there's no proof of corruption either. Do antis sit on their meetings? No. The sheer paranoia and idiotic audacity to even suggest blindly that he's carrying a grudge, doesn't even match, especially with what happened to Hwayoung. Antis come up with these most dumbest things without checking the sources properly to see if it's even true, leaving the matter as a bunch of balderdash, which is simply preposterous behavior by antis to begin with.
On a positive note, it's good to hear that T-ara fans are in good terms with Kara fans. Which reminds me of the times when our Hyomin worked along with Kara's Hara on Invincible Youth.
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I still have mixed feelings about this U.S. debut. As a fan, I'm happy they got an opportunity to expand into a new market and spread their music, and I will support them for sure. However, I still think it is not a good idea and that T-ara N4 should not rush this debut. There are so many big names in K-pop who tried to break the U.S. market but all 'failed'. The only one who made it is Psy and he didn't do it on purpose lol.
Previous K-Pop artists in the past, whom attempted the U.S. market have demonstrated this gradually and slowly increase of media exposure, performance venues and events. Before then, there was no K-Pop in the U.S. This indicates that the genre is growing more and more steadily over the years since the late 1990s. It is nice to have goals and expectations, even extremely high ones, but that doesn't mean that they didn't meet necessary levels of success. In fact, previous K-Pop artists have been successful in spreading the music more globally, and became the stepping stones for future K-Pop artists to be able to expand themselves, including Psy. Failure? Not even.
T-ara alreay have Korea, Japan and all Asia in general...so why not focusing on those markets where they are more well received.That is the most easiest question to answer. Surely, you're not going to get the answer from antis, because they are just plain dumb and unable to comprehend the facts, let alone the realities of the world.
There are fans outside of that region of the world, and their numbers are growing.
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I'm happy at new opportunities for T-ARA but my first wishes are for their safety.
From what I've heard of the Palms LV show and a youtube clip purporting to be of the new US release, that version of Jeon Won Diary is not very good.
It's slow and littered with lyrics about bitches and hoes. It doesn't sound particularly unique in the genre. CCM is desperate to tap into that US market for whatever reason, probably because the girls' contracts expire next year. Hopefully they weigh options with others agencies because CCM has not done them as many favors as they have disservices. YG Entertainment feels like a better fit.
In any event, I'm sure we all want T-ARA to succeed because we ♥ them.The Las Vegas event was definitely not their new English version of Jeon Won Diary. Everybody who is familiar with the song already knew full well that the song that was performed over there was a remix of the original song. And the full version of the English version has not been officially released, nor any information about the song's lyrics either. I don't see any desperation from Core Contents Media, since T-ara did a Japan Tour, and making a Korean comeback soon. And at least Core Contents Media acknowledges T-ara's fans in the U.S., which is a good thing. And there's absolutely nothing wrong for T-ara and Core Contents Media to try the U.S. market, especially when T-ara has made it publicly that they are strong, mature, and willing to try, even if it ends in failure, which I have lots of respect and support for them and Core Contents Media.
Having their contracts end is not a good thing for them. Some people just don't realize the ramifications that occurs when that happens. Firstly, all of their original songs and materials that they have done, is no longer available to them, even though they are the ones who performed it. Secondly, they would start all over from scratch, not an easy thing to get over, just look at every other artists how hard they've struggled, and yet didn't return to their status levels as before. At least Hwayoung can still rejoing T-ara and regain her star status more effectively and easily this way, especially for Areum. Thirdly, it'll crush them deeply and emotionally, more worse than what happened to Hwayoung. They are artists, and they have chosen this line of work as their careers. If they wanted to do something else, they would have years ago. If criminal acts were happening in the company they would've brought the police and the proper authorities to resolve it effectively. Since that didn't happen, than that means none of that happened at all. T-ara knows who they are, not other people telling them who they are, like idiotically claiming that they are bullies or even slaves by antis, without any proof whatsoever. No proof was ever shown to have any creditability to prove that they are bullies, nor was their a copy of each of their contracts made publicly to specifically state that they are slaves even too. And I'm pretty sure slavery is outlawed in South Korea.
After their recent interview, no such disdain or animosity exist in Core Contents Media, nor amongst the T-ara members. Core Contents Media and T-ara will make their attempt in the U.S. market. As fans, not antis, will support them as best we can. Antis surely don't, because they continue to bring up their illogical thinking without any facts, let alone proof, in order to create fear, loathing, and unfavorableness to everybody, just because they like to think they know better, when in fact, they really don't.
Emperor Ryu should calm down. Just because we have doubts, that are very reasonable, doesn't make us T-ara fans or anyone else an anti. You can't put that label on anyone who doesn't worship everything T-ara. That's childish in my opinion. Would you please accept that we all think differently?In fairness, I've checked on those so called reasonings myself before, to see just how valid they really are, and I found that there's really not enough ample doubt to cause any significant worry or even an alarm. In fact, I found all of them truthfully invalid. It is well known that antis are at the forefront in trying to downplay "all of T-ara's efforts" by such foolishness. Let's go over an example, leaving Core Contents Media, mentioned by CptFantasy, . . .
Antis have already stated that they want T-ara out of Core Contents Media, just because they bought into their very own paranoia delusions and fears. Their reasoning is based on a bunch of lies about T-ara not having enough sleep, not enough pay, not enough freedom as compared to other livelihoods happening around them, and Core Contents Media, specifically Kim Kwang Soo is not an effective C.E.O. Antis have argued that the members of T-ara don't get enough sleep, when there's proof that the members "do get sleep". We see them sleeping, even taking some vacation time every now and then. There was even media reports notifying everybody about their coming vacation time. One of them lasted for 10 days even. Antis forgotten that an artist's lifestyle and work are managed quite differently than other professions. They still can't handle this fact, not one bit at all. Which makes them completely dumb in the most obvious sense.
In truth, nobody outside Core Contents Media knows how much they get paid for every job offer they take on. All of us outside, including the media, do not have access to their accounting files and paychecks, not even bank records, let alone tax information. Just because of 1 job that they got little pay from, doesn't even come close to even say that is how it is for every job that they do, let alone even cover wage increases. Now for the freedom part, if Core Contents Media can reschedule their work load and even assign vacation/break time, I'm pretty sure freedom is not even an issue. If antis are trying to bank on having freedom while working, that's just plain idiocy. Next, . . .
Core Contents Media, like every other label in the industry have their struggles. Sometimes they make mistakes, and they try their very best to correct it, and move on, unlike antis, whom can't correct their own messed up mistakes, and continue to repeat them over and over again. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere here on this forum about "not bashing T-ara". In T-ara's recent interview, Core Contents Media, including Kim Kwang Soo, are doing their very best to help T-ara expand more globally as possible, because the realities of what's happening right now, which is, "K-Pop is global", whether antis believe it or not. When those mistakes happened back then, I've found apologizes issued by them, including T-ara, all the time. Do we hear any apologies from antis to T-ara and Core Contents Media for the lies they make up all the time and try to deceive others? Only by the ones who are caught by the police so far. The rest, no. Some antis like to point out and accuse Kim Kwang Soo as an evil person because he is a member of K.E.P.A. (Korean Entertainment Producers Association). Antis don't even have a clue how the organization even operates when they start comparing it to a criminal syndicate. Such utter inaneness. Have antis sat in on their meetings? No. Is Kim Kwang Soo the leader of K.E.P.A.? No, he's the Vice Chairman. Is there any indication presently that fully proves without a reasonable doubt that Kim Kwang Soo is an evil person that was spawned from the abyss of hell? No. To the contrary, Kim Kwang Soo has done more good to date. T-ara was becoming bigger and better, before Hwayoung's Incident, and Kim Kwang Soo is still keeping T-ara afloat as best as possible, and he's succeeding in doing that, even now. Especially reaching out to T-ara fans around the world, including the U.S. Which is a very good and positive thing. Not listening to the illogical antis trying to foolishly discriminate, or even try to compare to other artists. Antis are such idiots who can't get their facts straight.
So when an anti states that they want T-ara out of Core Contents Media or even have their contracts end or not renewed, the real truth is, they really want T-ara to end and retire already from their hard working careers and kill off all of their dreams and hopes in what they want, what they choose to do, in their lives. The only time I will ever support their leave, is when they themselves have decided to retire and accomplished their goals, at least most of them, many years from now. So when you ask me what is childish, antis are the ones acting childish, since I took the time to make sure what I'm reading and seeing is the truth or not, and stay impartial on decisions until more information is gathered. They didn't, not even enough for that matter.
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Well I have to say that I am very eager about their comeback though I have to be honest I was hoping for a studio album as well. Meh you can't have it all especially with you know who at the helm. Anyway I am eagerly awaiting their comeback and looking forward to the new concept. As for how long they will promote I'm hoping for a month at the minimum.
Hopefully with Hara taking all the flak atm (not that I'm happy about that mind you) I hope the public has gotten over last years shenanigans, and there won't be any hiccups or bad experiences for the members, and the comeback will be well received and hopefully successful.
I am curious about the concept though, VERY curious.Maybe there might be another album at the beginning of next year, dare I say near the end of this year, since these surprising early T-ara news is becoming more frequent.
Haters always going to love hating something and/or someone, and/or group of people. But I doubt Hara's troubles is enough to switch their foolish idiocy, since it's quite obvious that there's still antis trying to go after Dani yet. And there's no proof that Core Contents Media, let alone Kim Kwang Soo, is going after Kara. Won't make any sense to waste money on something that clearly isn't going to benefit them at all. More wiser to put the money that will boost T-ara's promotional effectiveness, than hopping onto some hating bandwagon with no clear justification for it, anyways.
We'll have to wait until more information is available about their comeback concept. I know we can't guess from Hyomin's studio photo recently.
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i hope dani just only in T-ara n4
Dani is a T-ara member.
Yah better put dani on the unit aonly the girls are ok already as 6 members and no need for rapper ej and hyomin can hndle it by the wayWhat's wrong with having 3 or more rappers together in a group?
I agree. I hope Dani will join in T-ara N4 only. Then when she is already totally trained and doing so good then she can join the official t-ara.She's already a T-ara member, and it appears her training is complete, because she performing with F-ve Dolls now.
I can't wait for their comeback it's been a long time!
And personally I hope Dani only remains in T-ara N4 unit.Dani is a T-ara member, therefore perform in both T-ara N4 and T-ara.
Basically, this is what i've been waiting over a year for. I'm so excited. But seriously why do you guys automatically jump to Dani? It was clearly mentioned in the article that it would be a 6 member comeback, so chill out. Stay positive please :|I'm very happy to hear about their comeback too.
There are so many invalid, illogical hatred on the newer members, despite the facts that Core Contents Media made it clear why they were added to the group, and the rest of the members themselves accepted them wholeheartedly, which resulted in even bigger successes than before. Such unjustified malicious hate without realizing that T-ara, at the time, could make themselves into "sub-units", despite believing idiotically otherwise, and have 6-ara perform together without having to hurt and harm the newer members. It's well known that some antis rejoiced what happened to Hwayoung, and after Areum's announcement, they are trying to go after Dani for the same evil hatred as before. Lots of people all over the world see this and simply do not like how these antis are acting towards T-ara, especially towards the newer members of the group, as shown by the immense support for T-ara N4's debut song, which got them to come over to the U.S.
Hwayoung and Areum can still return to T-ara, and many people who want them to comeback to the group. We can definitely expect Dani to perform with the rest of T-ara as a whole group in the future.
I'm so EXCITED about this desert concept thingy, because it's new? LOL And about the traditional T-ara? Hmmm, let's see. I'm a bit shocked because I thought Dani will be joining T-ara N4 instead of T-ara. I hope she will just stay in T-ara N4. T.T It's okay though, but I still want the 6-ara.
Dani is a member of T-ara, and she can perform both in T-ara N4 and T-ara. She did partake in Day By Day's music video.
I hope Dani can't read this. Because she said recently that shes going to visit Diadem. Yet she's great but I think she has to be trained very very well. Dani ya! Fighting! I cant wait for October 10!!! Lets trend the T-ara Comeback on October 10!!
Please let's Trend this on October 10! The T-aracomeback day!Of course Dani can read this. She's a T-ara member. And I'm sure all of the members of T-ara are more than welcome to visit Diadem.
Finally, they are back as 6.. Dying to hear the fanchats for T-ara. On the side note, I just cant imagine Jungiee in desert's custom. Waiting for the MV..
Even when Hwayoung and Areum returns to T-ara, the group can still perform as 6 members.
happy for a comeback with just the original members.
Qri, Soyeon, and Boram were not the original members. 5-ara, Hyomin, Eunjung, Jiyeon, Jiae, and Jiwon, are the originals when they debuted with "A Good Person".
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I don't see the problem at all when U.S. artists are able to enter other countries music markets, let alone not a problem when it's quite possible for artists from other countries to enter the U.S. market too. The U.S. has already proven that there are K-Pop fans, especially T-ara fans. I give much praise and gratefulness for T-ara and Core Contents Media for expanding into the U.S. market and reaching out to their fans there. It's understandable about the risks, but as T-ara stated in their previous interviews, they are not afraid, and that alone should be enough to eliminate any concerns of worry. Won't it be more faithful to support their endeavors, rather than go against their goals? I certainly think it's the right thing to do as fans and supporters of T-ara. Won't any of you agree?
And it doesn't surprise me yet again to hear about antis ranting illogically once again. The sheer idiocy is just so pitiful. Foreign artists can make it in the U.S., that's a fact. There's nothing that's edged in stone that states K-Pop can't make it in the U.S., when there's actually plenty of opportunities for them to do so. And it's not like they are not going to continue back in South Korea, just because they are going to perform in the U.S. either. Currently, T-ara is in Japan while at the same time, preparing themselves to enter the U.S. What a bunch of morons these antis are.
I still can't believe antis are trying to argue about their English language again. They stated in their interview that they are working to improve their current level of English, and that's praiseworthy and to be encouraged. What's this about their English is not good enough now? Are they hopping on the next flight out to the U.S., like right now? How idiotic antis can be with their ways of thinking. And Dani is learning Korean very well, from her performance in F-VE Doll's "Can't You Love Me" song. And seriously? What's wrong with Dani being bilingual, let alone the rest of the T-ara members? Got a problem with people who can speak multiple languages or something? I sure don't.
After T-ara N4's trip to the U.S., and before that Las Vegas event, they meet up with other people in the U.S. market, so they have at least a good idea about it. In fact, they are sympathetic and supportive of T-ara, even more after what Chris Brown done. But even that won't stop T-ara from coming to the U.S., because they are understanding and are still working with him. In short, they forgave him. And what's does his personal life have to do with his music? Absolutely nothing. During his comeback, he did surprisingly well. If his personal life, which involves all of his criminal past, his comeback shouldn't have succeeded at all. Nobody won't buy his comeback album. So antis need to be reminded what happened about Chris Brown in court and afterward. He "admitted his guilt", and was sentenced in a court of law. He went to anger management too. The man didn't come off all insane and started media bash on Rihanna after his guilty day in court. He manned up and took responsibility for his own actions, as he did. That's on the right path to redeeming himself. Yes, he had other problems too, but the man is still trying to do good, and that's something positive to say about him, which I can't say for blind-hating, misunderstanding fools, who can't keep up to date what's going on. Ergo, people still bought his comeback album and did surprisingly well on the charts. And another thing about this Chris Brown collaboration, this is more T-ara than Chris Brown to begin with. I guess haters just like to concentrate on the things they hate, instead of being supportive of the things they enjoy. For myself, I'm just defending T-ara from lamebrained antis, and being mindful of Chris Brown and letting the past be the past because we learned from it very well, while looking forward to the future. Nothing wrong with that. Isn't Knotch the composer for T-ara N4's song in the U.S.?
Nobody on the outside of Core Contents Media knows exactly how much money they have in their bank. So what's this assumption about their money, when before they've turned down huge sums of it? The illogical assumptions are astounding to hear from these antis. I heard some of these antis saying that Crayon Pop is flop when in fact they are doing very well, including internationally. Flop? Again, such imbecilic assumptions from these antis who can see the facts happening around them. Antis thought Sexy Love wasn't going to do well, but it did do well. Past artists who made ventures into the U.S. before are just those artists' attempts in getting into the U.S. T-ara is making their own attempt. And from the long history of K-Pop artists entering the U.S., it has shown that they are getting more and more successful with each attempt into the U.S. market. It's so weird to have antis start claiming a bunch of nonsense about how previous K-Pop artists are failures, when actually, these previous artists succeeded in actually getting into the U.S. in some way. And as the saying goes, "Everybody got to start somewhere." How is it even possible to say T-ara is going to fail when nobody hasn't heard the finalized song officially? Again, antis with their dumb antics.
I believe T-ara will succeed in the U.S. one way or the other, or in many ways. The U.S. has K-Pop fans, no question about that. Especially when some of those fans support T-ara very much so. I don't have a good idea of what's the exact concept(s) they will end up using to officially debut in the U.S. So I'm going to wait until it gets released to find out the truth about it. Knowing how talented T-ara is and their collaborations can be here in the U.S., I am very hopeful and I have much faith in their abilities in creating good, fun music to enjoy.
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Dani does not disappoint, and I'm so very happy at how well she did in the music video. Her rapping is very sweet and easygoing, which matches perfectly with the song itself. She even sang with the chorus too. Her dancing is right on with the rest of the F-VE Dolls members as well. She done an amazing performance for her parts that supports her labelmates. F-VE Dolls did a very fantastic performance job with their vocals and their dancing. All of them together did an outstanding job for this song, and music video.
It doesn't surprise me antis are going to criticize Dani so hard, while not equally criticizing their favorite member(s), or even when they enjoy the recorded song(s) on the CDs, instead of live recordings when they try to pull the whole "audio argument" stunt again, the utter hypocrisy. But then again, that's antis for us all. They're nothing but a bunch of moronic idiots who continue to just hate on the newer T-ara members, and can't get their facts straight, let alone get out of their delusional idiocy.
Firstly, music videos are a means to promote their main product, which is the song(s). The song(s) by itself/themselves is/are a completed recording(s) that captures the artist's talented vocal abilities, whether they be singing, harmonizing, chorus, and/or rapping. Not going to even try to crucify any artist for their music videos and try to overshadow their talent, because the reality is, that is their vocals, their rapping and singing being recorded, whether there's auto-tunes are not, or even edited, because edited or not, they are still going to perform the full length of their tracks without a doubt after the recording, which they've already proven that they can carry on for such durations from their auditions when they sang their favorite song(s) all the way through.
Secondly, the training systems differ amongst the label companies where we get numbers that range from 1 and a half years, 2, 3 years to as long as 5, 8, and even 10 years of training. Yes, there are children/young adolescence that start at such a young age, and we've all seen some of their cover dance videos online. With Dani's efforts to even make it over a year is still praiseworthy, and she's still going on with her career, which again, I'm not going to take away her chances to succeed, just because of some idiotic reasons, like her age, or even trying to bash on her current performance levels when in fact she can improve and become better, as proof of other artists who have done so before her.And raps is still raps, even a rapper can tell the truth about that, not a bunch of antis thinking they know rap when they themselves can't tell the obvious similarity. If I rapped a few lines from a song, that's still rapping. If I wrote a rap song and rapped it, that's still rapping. If I free-styled rap all of the sudden, that's still rapping. If an artist raps, that's rap, and that artist is a rapper. There's no difference between an artist from one genre or another when that artist raps, period. I swear, some people need some education, maybe reeducation what rap truly is.
Lastly, the reality about lip-singing is it will always be there from time to time as to provide a protective means for the artist's vocal cords/speech. I'm very sure every artist is well aware about having to use it for interviews, meetings, vocal practicing, Q&As, meeting fans and other people, like people they are going to work with, making videos, not to mention making and taking phone calls. We've all heard about such throat injuries before, like Sistar's Hyorin during her time with Immortal Song 2 a couple years back, even hearing about Kara's Gyuri and her throat medical condition too. Sure, I'm one of those who prefer the real deal singing/rapping, but I can at least give leeway for understanding why lip-singing wasn't banned and prohibited. On rare occasions, a few artists actually notified their audience about performing with lip-singing in advance before the stage event, which I found very thoughtful of them to do so. Thus, I'm not even going to bash any artist when they have to resort to lip-singing, ever, because either way, I'm going to hear their singing/rapping anyway. -
I'm currently trying to get more information too on my end. If I find out anything more, I'll post up here. It's so good to hear about their acknowledgment for this festival. I hope there's Diadem staff members in Hawaii who can help out too. Maybe all of us can meet up together, that is, if T-ara does visit, it's going to be incredibly awesome.
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I've never heard of Crayon Pop.. should probably go check out their video or something
Crayon Pop debuted officially mid-2012 in Japan, and made a comeback in South Korea in the following month of that year. They gained some attention during that time, and went quiet a couple of months later. In October, they made a guerilla-style concert by performing in various public places, but got little traction for it, which had them going back to Japan in January of this year. During that month, they came back to South Korea with a Korean version of their debut Japanese song. That promotion lasted into the following month in which they return to Japan once again for another concert. After getting some considerable notoriety for their efforts, they began working on their next comeback. To much of everyone's surprise, their "Bar Bar Bar" song became their break through performance to date for them. Their dance choreography went viral online with many fans performing their own renditions of it.
International-wise, they are known, especially in the U.S. and Japan, thanks to their newest comeback, but seeing that they're still relatively new and people are gradually learning more about them, it will take some time for them to gain more momentum world wide. Their potential is visibly there, and it's up to them to achieve and earn those next steps towards that direction. So far, as a rookie group, they are progressing well on the world stage so far. As long as they can keep up their gains, we can be sure to see more international attention on Crayon Pop happening in the near future.They're getting pretty popular in Korea nowadays it seems. But it's normal if you haven't heard of them since their influence on the international scale is still very lacking (very small international fan forum; and it's hardly active. Also watching their performances on KCON LA 2013 recently said it all. Not much cheering whatsoever). Crayon Pop music style seems to be that of a fun party with catchy beats kind of songs. I wouldn't suggest going to explore Crayon Pop hoping for stuff like "meaningful lyrics" and what not lol.
@OP: What exactly is baidu anyway? Is there a specific link to an article where this Chrome CEO spoke these words?
I have to disagree with the assessment on their K-Con L.A. performance on August 25th of this year, because of the fancams I watched on youtube. Plenty of cheering going on. Internationally, they are doing fine, and gaining more attention, thanks to the fans and their viral videos of their 5 cylinder engine dance.
I'm guessing "Baidu" is that Chinese Search Engine website? And I've only come across others mentioning this in various places online. One them cited that the translation was done by someone named, "Rainie". Another site mentioned that it was posted up on a T-ara page. But on Baidu, I traced the interview to a forum that posted it a little bit of it, which was translated by a Taiwan Crayon Pop fan group here. My searching led me to this full English translation of the entire interview here, with the original credited source here. I believe this interview was posted up online on August 28th, 2013. -
I wish them good lucks and all the best. They will need it. As a listener of the western pop for almost all my life, unless they have a great song to promote like PSY, they will not really go far. I wonder what kind of hype does KKS want to create? Chart Ranking? Or just to increase popularity? Even Britain singers have to be very talented like Leona lewis, Adele, Amy WInehouse to be popular in US. (Totally not saying that T-ara is not talented but their type singing are not really widely fond by the Americans)
I'm a loyal queens so those are my real concerns. Because I hope they prove me wrong but Chris Brown isn't even the right person to start with.
There are so many options, TAIWAN and CHINA. These two countries have huge market toooo!! SO WHY MUST IT BE US? KKS SUCKS in marketing and they are still keeping him.
Psy's approach is rather different and unique compared to Leona Lewis, Adele, Amy WInehouse, and other artists from other countries whom made it in the U.S. market. There's lots of music genres that artists can do fairly well in the U.S., and it's up to the people to decide whether they like it or not. And at least, there are T-ara fans in the U.S., and K-Pop is certainly growing more there.
We just have to wait and see what Core Contents Media will do for their U.S. advancements. We still don't know anything about T-ara signing with any U.S. labels yet either.
I disagree with that American claim. If there are people in the U.S. that likes T-ara's songs, it will suffice to say that there are people in the U.S. who like T-ara and their songs. And with K-Pop growing widely in the U.S. and globally in other supportive countries, it's for certain that claim is not true.
As the saying goes, "Everybody starts somewhere.", and that doesn't necessarily mean that's the end for them. Chris Brown can still redeem himself, and T-ara certainly is benefiting this more than he is currently.
Business-wise, everyone would like to have their products all over the world, that is, if the product is that durable and flexible to be advertised, stored, and used in all regions. Core Contents Media hasn't denied Taiwan nor China, even after performing in those two areas. The most understood reason why they are entering the U.S. market is simply because they want to do well there, and it's well known that the U.S. market is the largest music market in the world. Can't get any simpler than that. Kim Kwang Soo is making good on his promise to have T-ara reach their fans around the world, and that's very praiseworthy.
If anyone is curious, I came across this top ranking for the music markets around the world, . . .
1. The United States of America.
2. Japan.
3. The United Kingdom.
4. Germany.
5. France.
6. Australia.
7. Canada.
8. Brazil.
9. Italy.
10. The Netherlands.
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I never said they made any mistakes but they had that concept that sort of mirrored T-ara's during Roly Poly. The company created those antis by talking about Ilbe and making bank accounts for charity donations. I think you have selective memory because CCM is not doing a good job with T-ara. Chrome Entertainment is nothing compared to them but they have their share of PR disasters.
After watching Crayon Pop's music videos, I found nothing in their overall choreography for each one that stands out like T-ara's Roly Poly. And I found their dance practice videos not even coming close to T-ara's Roly Poly choreography either.
I disagree about the whole Ilbe thing, because it's just too ridiculous when people from Ilbe, and those related to it, just so happens to recognize a phrase, which doesn't mean that's proof that Crayon Pop members are members of their community. It just falls into that foolish category where someone will mistaken "lol" as "lots of love", when actually it means "laughing out loud". These things happen by mistaken, and extremists are taking it, once again, too seriously, and not giving any recourse while jumping to idiotic conclusions without any proof whatsoever. Is there any internet data that can prove that the Crayon Pop members frequents Ilbe, before people started to recognize that phrase of theirs online? No. Having proof that they have member accounts and I.S.P. addresses and activities that links their computers to the Ilbe site would mean a whole lot more than just some phrase. Even though that won't prove without a reasonable doubt that they were the ones operating those computers. So basically, that entire thing, along with Secret's Hyosung mistake, are just plain dumb coincidences to begin with, and not to be even consider justifiably as similar with T-ara's struggles with idiotic antis.
That's incorrect, because all of the idiotic animated gifs and other so-called "evidence" by antis are nothing more than retarded, baseless assumptions of a paranoid and uneducated nature. None of them won't become admissible after questioning by both counselors for their very validity related to the alleged crime, in a court of law. Core Contents Media did a good job protecting T-ara from antis, and spiteful 6-aras alike, trying to manipulate the situation and others into thinking illogically about T-ara's personal livelihoods, privacy, and work ethics.
For Chrome Entertainment, I'm not going to hold that bank account incident against them, because their intentions still falls within a charitable means to give back to the community. I could only surmise that they wanted to make the gifts more officially legal and being more together and closer with the fans, while having a paper trail to easily follow such activities publicly. I do agree that fans themselves could do it themselves and titled their reasons as Chrome Entertainment/Crayon Pop wishes, and upload the proof to their own individual charity accounts, and then submit them to Chrome Entertainment/Crayon Pop afterward. But either way the charity still wins the benefit of the gifts anyways. I certainly won't blame Chrome Entertainment in wanting tax exemptions, if that exists in South Korea's tax system, and if there is, then definitely there should be a means where both Chrome Entertainment and their fans in sharing that exemption together.
All managements from labels are all trying to do something positive for the community in their own unique ways. I'm certainly not going to derail their selfless motivations and good nature of their humanity to give back to the community, just because of misunderstandings and delays on their part and/or others, including antis.
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I'm kind of pissed honestly, this is such a waste of time and resources. Japanese activities are still half-assed and the 2nd Korean album is nowhere in sight. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Who is to say that they aren't working on their Japanese and Korean comebacks, while they work on expanding themselves in the U.S. and other places around the world?
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Hey! Don't take it as a serious matter!
Let's have our own opinion and thoughts, okay? What part of, . . .
For myself, I think it is very nice to know that T-ara helped inspire more of the next generation of K-Pop artists, ensuring the genres ongoing legacy in the history of music. I won't mind at all at this point in having a good relationship between our T-ara and Crayon Pop.
, . . . is difficult to understand?
Sort of contradicting to state the latter in your posting too.
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Why did we not creat a girl group like that?
To answer this question in a couple possible ways, one, and foremost possible reason, would be the most obvious that it would be like a copycat group that just duplicates what T-ara does. Although it would sound great for us, it won't be so great for them to do so, because they have to establish their own uniqueness, before starting to pay their respects to other artists in the industry that inspired and helped them become who they are right now. If they wanted to do everything T-ara performs as, people would begin to wonder if Core Contents Media should acquire Chrome Entertainment, and have Crayon Pop as an affiliate group to perform with T-ara. Maybe even rename them as T-arayon Pop?
Of course, making covers is not really a bad thing, and it does happen from time to time in terms of copyrights and official products in the industry. Which leads up to the next possible reasoning. Which is they debuted in Japan fully, not in a television drama soundtrack. Both song debuts are quite different in many ways. Even though both groups have the same amount of members when they actively debuted with 5 members. This possible reason can double when comparing and contrasting the overall members' abilities between both groups. As the saying goes, "No two women are ever alike.", even when it comes to twins.
Normally in the music industry, when a artist or group of artists follows similar themes and concepts of another artist or group of artists, is because that artist/group whom have inspired them have already retired/disbanded and have gotten permission and copyrights to perform in the same manner. Since T-ara is still around and expected to last for many more years to come, it's not very likely that Crayon Pop can be like T-ara in every facet and form, when T-ara is pretty much T-ara. It certainly is a possibility for Crayon Pop to begin to follow T-ara's footsteps, if they choose to do so and have talks with T-ara and Core Contents Media about it, and avoid any copyright violations and follow what Psy did with Nega Network for his comeback, "Gentleman".
But in the end, this question is rather moot at best to give a solid answer to, because what's done is done for them in the past, making it a "What if" stand alone questionnaire, and now have to move forward with what they have accomplished thus far, which is pretty good for Crayon Pop and Chrome Entertainment. I heard today about Yang Hyun Suk, C.E.O. of YG Entertainment, praising Crayon Pop's "Bar Bar Bar" successes for this year. Although, in terms of this reveal on Chrome's part, we would like to hear what T-ara and Core Contents Media think about this.
For myself, I think it is very nice to know that T-ara helped inspire more of the next generation of K-Pop artists, ensuring the genres ongoing legacy in the history of music. I won't mind at all at this point in having a good relationship between our T-ara and Crayon Pop.
That is actually quite cool and you could see some similarities between the two groups including the 'Delinquent' performances and terrible management from their respective companiesI disagree, because I don't recall Crayon Pop make any mistakes in their performances that was reported by the media, and their company is doing fairly well in dealing with some of their idiotic antis. Crayon Pop is somewhat relatively new since they debuted last year, while T-ara are veterans with seemingly limitless abilities and loads of skills and talent to spare, and Core Contents Media is doing a very good job for T-ara.
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From the start it's 6
End finally it's still 6
6 alwasy be the best!From the beginning, they started as 5-ara, and there's no end in sight for T-ara at this point.
Most of us are waiting for Hwayoung and Areum to rejoin T-ara.
[13.09.03] Video - T-ARA Hawaii International Music Awards Festival Greeting
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Glad to be of some help to you staff here, even though it didn't turn out the way we all wanted it to, in the end. Most of my friends and associates were devastated when they heard about the cancellation. They did the best that they could, and I'm thankful. Well, at least the T-ara N4 was an exception and they've gained more from it.
I hope T-ara gets another chance to come over to Hawaii someday soon. They can sure use a break to enjoy themselves, before working their best again.