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    raven_potter reacted to nathaniel in [12.08.02] T-ara are victims of reckless reporters   
    [12.08.03] T-ara are victims of reckless reporters





    T-ara are victims of unconfirmed reports in the media.
    Recently, the bullying situation began with a few tweets and reports saying Hwayoung was bullied in T-ara. Suspicions that idol groups have bullying in them have been around forever, and didn't just start yesterday. But the recent bullying accusations have exploded and attracted more attention than ever before.
    A problem that lies within this is that there is so much interest in the case, that reports are being published in the press just to increase views and clicks on their website which is the wrong attitude.
    To confirm the allegations that first began about bullying, netizens went and dug up various things that happened in the past. Excerpts from various different broadcasts were brought up through screen-captures and questioned, but they were not originally a problem when they first aired. The reports spread throughout the media were written without going through a verification process. Reports that were contacting representatives from the broadcasts were also hard to find.
    In addition to making screen-captures of various broadcasts, rumors have been circulating about T-ara. False and malicious rumors, such as "gangs" and the like, have been circulating online because of "netizens suspicions," but like the screen-captures, they have not been verified. The "trainee" was proven to be false, and the "back-dancer" report as well, but both spread before any confirmation had been done. Some even have gone far to force evidence and say that Hwayoung left a hidden message, "fans only know," in her Twitter message but the truth is it's different depending on where you look at the image.
    Websites gain revenue through clicks on ads on their website, and these reckless and unprofessional reports being spread attract attention and revenue for whoever reports it.
    The bullying allegations first started on July 28th through Twitter messages and continued until the 2nd. T-ara related searches dominated every popular search ranking on various portal sites. The Olympics began, but T-ara's scandal has attracted more attention and higher interest. The topic located at the center is that journalists recklessly report things posted online without getting confirmation just for a few more clicks on their website.
    Hwayoung recently posted on Twitter, "Please stop now and look forward to when I'll return with a new more mature and sophisticated image." The situation is at a point where it's finally calmed down.
    ***
    Source: http://news.nate.com/view/20120802n20672
    Translated by: Nathaniel @ Diadem
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    raven_potter reacted to -Delmin in [SPAZZ/INFO] , T-ARA's Supporters!   
    Hey,
    My fellow Diadems, Im pretty sure that most of us are affected by the recent case of T-ARA.
    To spark things off, T-ARA will still have my absolute support no matter what, I believe this that
    have or had happen, comes with a strong reason behind it.
    P/S: Im not AGAINST Hwayoung or any sort of T-ARA, I, myself feels that that Hwayoung as a STRONG rapper had to LEAVE T-ARA.
    1. Reports from CCM about Hwayoung causing Jiyeon's mood to swing during YaYaYa promotions.
    2. Hwayoung sudden decision of not performing in 'Music Bank' 2 groups before T-ARA's stage.
    3. T-ARA members claim to be bullying Hwayoung via Twitter.
    4. Boram unfollowing Hwayoung on Twitter.
    5. Jiyeon slapping Hwayoung.
    Things have and had been done over the NET(which is by far the most powerful MSG-Sharing place) .. Overnight, T-ARA loses alot of fans also gaining haters. Lets pause at this moment and ask ourself.
    Do we get affected by the amount of fans lost over the incident, or do we think of why all this happen?
    #1 reason why haters are strong oppositions are BECAUSE they stand UNITED to HATE on SOMEONE or SOMETHING. -
    So why not we as QUEENS/DIADEM STAND united to SUPPORT T-ARA? At this Point of time, our Unnis/Noonas needs our support on what their doing and not just wondering why all this are happen. Do we, as Diadem or QUEENS not trust our Unnies/Noonas? Its true that Tiaradiadem.com is not a website they often go onto to check it out, neither do we have the capability to contact them to tell them "Unnie/Noona, you have my support." , but I believe our mental support will do it.
    Seeing my Noonas withdrawing from Press conference, Advers, really got into me. But I believe by being sad and dwell in the lies we got from KKS will do us any good but slowly disliking T-ARA ,
    I really urge us to do certain things
    #1 - Be patient over the untold news by CCM,
    #2 - Give our Noonas/Unnis the fullest support we can
    #3 - Don't give in to the haters on what they are saying
    - It will not rain forever, the sun has to come out over a certain time.
    Please do contribute if you have anything to say about this matter, please be POSITIVE only.
    Please write in to this TREAD on things that you understand that people might not,
    Please, I support T-ARA, do you? Stand by me, Support them. WE AS DIADEMS, WILL NOT FALL OVER PROBLEMS THAT ARE UP OVER STUPID REASON LIKES "HATERS"
    -Delmin.
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    raven_potter reacted to min young in [12.08.01] Haeundae Lovers PD, "Soyeon is courteous and works hard"   
    found on tumblr
    Guilty until proven innocent: The lynch mob against T-ara and who’s really to blame

    The fallout from Hwayoung‘s split with T-ara has been nothing short of cataclysmic, and resulted in an all-out witch hunt against the current T-ara members. The group has lost endorsement deals, been forced to cancel concerts, fan cafes have shut down, petitions and groups to have T-ara disbanded and to uncover the truth behind the scandal have attracted hundreds of thousands of people, netizens have called for the members to be removed from their current television shows, a music program director has said he will no longer contact T-ara, and much more.
    In less than a week, T-ara has gone from being one of the most loved groups in K-Pop to the most reviled and hated. But whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty, and why are the members of T-ara receiving all the vitriol instead of their controversial CEO, Kim Kwang Soo?
    The bulk of the anti-T-ara bandwagoning has stemmed from various reports of bullying — virtually all of which have turned out to be either misconstrued or completely false. The situation has gotten so bad that anonymous posts on web forums have been picked up by the media and reported as fact, and everybody has been so desperate for answers that they’re not stopping to separate the fiction from the fact.
    A photo of Hyomin accidentally bumping Hwayoung as she raised her arm was transformed by netizens into “Hyomin pokes Hwayoung in the eye!“. A video of Hwayoung opening her mouth for Eunjung to put a rice cake in it suddenly became an attempt at choking by force-feeding, but what netizens failed to mention was that it was a Japanese game show where you had to put sweets into someone’s mouth and then try make a sound with your mouth full. As if things couldn’t get any more far-fetched, a photo of Hwayoung chatting with INFINITE and SISTAR at the ‘Idol Olympics’ broadcast was somehow turned into Hwayoung having to sit with them because T-ara wouldn’t speak to her.
    There was never any speculation that Hwayoung had been bullied before last week, yet now all it takes is a photo of her hanging with Bora to serve as evidence that she’s been ostracized by her own group. Does this selca of Eunjung and KARA’s Gyuri mean that they too, are victims of bullying? Anybody can take a photo and fabricate a story around it.
    There was even a shocking report that Jiyeon slapped Hwayoung across the face — a report that literally stemmed from an anonymous forum post from somebody claiming to be a member of T-ara’s dance team, Yama & Hot Chicks. When the leader of the dance team came forward to shoot down the false claims, it was too late. The article was already a most-read story across the web, and the damage was done.
    It should take more than some out-of-context photos, anonymous forum posts, and unsubstantiated stories to convince the world that T-ara is a pack of evil bullies who tormented and assaulted their bandmate. This is 2012, but right now people are acting like it’s the 1600s and we’re all at the Salem witch trials.
    The only thing that seems somewhat accurate in all of this drama is that there was an incident on last week’s Music Bank where Hwayoung was upset for an as-yet-unknown reason, and refused to go on stage for T-ara’s scheduled performance. This caused the other members to have to cover for her at the last minute, and resulted in a mistake being made during the performance. Some T-ara members were then unprofessional and tweeted their disappointment over Hwayoung’s actions, which led to them being labelled as bullies. This information about Music Bank does not confirm that T-ara are bullies, nor does it confirm that Hwayoung is troublesome. All it confirms is that Hwayoung refused to perform on Music Bank –which may or may not have been for a perfectly valid reason– and that the others members disagreed with that decision.

    Does anybody remember what happened to the Sugababes back in 2009? Keisha Buchanan was fired from the group amidst claims she was a bully, but fans and the public still took her side and blamed member Amelle Berrabah for the entire thing. People adopted a lynch mob mentality, similar to the one we are currently seeing against T-ara, and eventually their attacks against Amelle were so vicious that she had a nervous breakdown and had to spend three-weeks recovering in a treatment facility. Reports that Keisha had been a bully were never confirmed, the fans eventually calmed down and got over it, and life went on as usual. If only everyone had behaved more rationally and not jumped to conclusions, then Amelle’s unfortunate breakdown could have been avoided all together. (I should know, because I was one of the many people who sent abusive tweets to Amelle at the time!)
    While everybody is busy blaming T-ara for Hwayoung’s departure, few seem to be looking at Kim Kwang Soo, who may very well be more responsible for this entire ordeal than anybody else involved.
    In my April article about T-ara’s then-announced member changes, I expressed my concern over the way Kim Kwang Soo was managing the group. I said that he was creating an unhealthy environment for the group by encouraging them to compete against one another and by threatening to fire or replace any members who didn’t comply. Now that he’s made good on his threats, it’s T-ara who are being blamed.
    In the same article, I also took a look at how severely Kim Kwang Soo had been overworking T-ara. In a nutshell, the group hadn’t had a vacation since their debut in 2009 and hadn’t received a day off in one year, members were performing on top of serious injuries, Jiyeon collapsed on stage from exhaustion, and at times the group’s work load was so heavy that they had 12 schedules in one day.
    Now picture the kind of stress that would bring on the members of T-ara, and then remember that Hwayoung was not part of the original T-ara lineup. She was added to the group in 2010. So Hwayoung was added to a group that was already successful, a group that had been together for years (if you include their training days), a group that was being severely overworked in a high-stress environment, and a group that was encouraged by their CEO to compete against one another.
    If any of the unsubstantiated bullying claims are true, or even if Hwayoung was simply just an ‘outcast’ in T-ara, it’s not hard to see why.
    If you need any more proof that Kim Kwang Soo isn’t the greatest CEO on the planet, then look no further than Nam Gyuri. The idol was a member former CCM girl group SeeYa, before she left back in 2009 for financial reasons and to pursue an acting career. What followed was a messy and very public war of words in which Kim Kwang Soo revealed scandalous information about Gyuri in the press and claimed that she uncooperative and missed schedules, the remaining SeeYa members held a press conference and painted Gyuri out to be a selfish diva, and Gyuri called Kim Kwang Soo “the devil”, denied his allegations against her and implied that it was part of a smear campaign, and claimed her former bandmates were cold towards her and spoke behind her back.
    There was probably a little truth to both sides of that story, but at the end of the day, people are going to disagree and have conflicts. It’s a normal part of life, and it’s happened to everybody.

    When you’re looking at a Korean girl group, such as T-ara, a CEO is like the teacher or the parent of the group. The CEO has a responsibility to create a safe and healthy environment for the group, both at home in the dorm and at work, and to ensure that any petty issues are taken care of in a proper way so the dynamic of the group can remain positive and professional. Kim Kwang Soo appears to have done the exact opposite of that, and if there is any true disharmony in T-ara, it is he who should be held responsible before both Hwayoung and T-ara.
    As of now, the only real bullies in this whole situation are the netizens. Take one look at the comments section in a T-ara post on AllKPop right now, and you’ll either see a hypocritical flood of cruel and mean-spirited attacks directed at the group and its individual members, or just people laughing at the group’s current predicament. T-ara is being torn down for something that nobody even knows if they actually did or not. And if they did do it, then why did they do it? Not everything in life is black and white.
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    raven_potter got a reaction from hyominheart in [12.08.01] Haeundae Lovers PD, "Soyeon is courteous and works hard"   
    Its been days since the controversy began and i would just like to say my piece. I would like to rant for the first and the last time about this issue. I've made some comments here and there but i've yet to say my stand and i feel that if i don't i won't get another chance so bear with me please, this may take long and a bit mixed up.
    For me these are the facts and do please tell me if i'm wrong about this.
    These all started on july 27, the day after the bodukan concert, it was the day of the music bank performance.
    The tweets were made after the music bank performance. The tweets were as later said in particular about the music bank incidents where hwayoung suddenly became unable to perform.
    ( I do believe in the fact that hwayoung was unable to perform at the last minute but for what reason no one really knows)
    This is when all started hell fire and loose. CCM made an announcement that KKS will make an announce ment on the 30th.
    KKS terminated hwayoungs contract and made other bunch of statements that no one really believes in.
    Videos and screencaps are made showing how the girls are allegedly bullying hwayoung, other anonymous persons made accusations. honestly by just reading that it was from an anonymous person i pretty much don't believe it.
    First of all, I blame three persons or group for this mess. KKS at the most because of his handling the whole issue, some say he's a great manager for handling all those popular people before but for the life of me if he was really so great how in the XXXX did he manage to make such a mess of things seriously, it just isn't even this one issue its all the issues t-ara has had that became a mess because of their PR mishandling things for them.
    Second group would be the netizens. no matter how much i would like to rant, curse and just call the xxxx out of them i can't. I could only sigh and shake my head because of the stupidity and idiocy of people who in the first place does not even know what's really happening and just spouting hate comments here and there. They are the reason this issue just blew out of proportions. Its like they don't have a life that they cruelly destroy others lives
    Third would be hwayoung and her sister and her rap coach. I know her sister and rap coach we're just defending her but they we're pretty much just adding fuel to the fire. Hwayoiung should have stayed silent not out of respect to the member but out of respect to the group t-ara because she was still a t-ara for 20 months. Truth be told for me, the tweets of the five girls would never be misconstrued if hwayoung did not make that tweet too because upon reading the other girls tweet without hwayoung iI interpreted it with just a shout out to be stronger with them having a lot of activities, on the other hand if along with hwayoungs tweet, I interpreted it mostly as a scolding.
    Seriously if people think of those tweets as a bullying i just don't get it. I mostly just think that those people surely have led a sheltered life for them to think these as bullying because this is what stemmed the bullying issues anyways and all the other vids and screen caps showing how the girls bully hwayoung are just downright laughable and idiotic because those are made by people who does not really know t-ara and edit things just so it would look like that.
    These thing happened because of the music bank incident and my take on that was that I was really confused. As shown by pics hwayoung was there ready to perform but at the last minute couldn't or didn't. Things must have been really chaotic by then with Hyomin having to read on a cue card to say the rap lines and people accusing her of being unprofessional it must have really hurt her so she made that tweet. like i said earlier we might just never know what really happened in their with he way KKS is handling things.
    As for people asking the T-ara members to speak out, I doubt if that will really happen and with the way KKS handled it at first it would be better for them to not go out and speak about this issue for a while because people wouldn't really hear what they will say and just accuse them of pretty much ridiculous things which will make things even worse for them. Actually for me, it would be better for them to take a hiatus for about two to three months until these things would die down. I'm not saying they should no longer address and forget about this issue but when they comeback they can talk and explain and by then things have cooled down and people would be able to listen to them with an open mind.
    Even when this issue first break out, I really did not believe it, not because i'm a delusional fan as others may say for beleiving in the t-ara girls but over the years i've gotten to know them. I may not know their real character but i do know that they are not stupid enough to risk their career for just a trivial matter, so for those saying they we're publicly bullying hwayoung, tsk, please..!?!
    As for them bullying hwayoung all through out those 20 months i don't think so and for her being ostracized. I think they may have been awkward at first since her entering on a group whose dynamic has already been made but its just expected. All those making accusations are people who does not really follow t-ara and has not seen how the girls are. as for those queens who readily believed it SHAME ON YOU. and it just shows you're not really a queen. I wish to think that this is a blessing in disguise? to show us who the real queens are, the real T-ara fans
    And lastly, I wish that these will just be a nightmare and as day would come, weeks or months we will go back up and pull through this. so T-ARA Fighting!!! WE LOVE YOU!!!!! Peace OUT!!
    PS. these are mostly my opinions and from the things i've gathered from some people
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    raven_potter reacted to scelesters in [12.08.01] Kim Kwangsoo, "I met with Hwayoung for 30 minutes"   
    I'm not surprised the girls are in a terrible state. For us fans who have been following them, we know the hard work and dedication they put into their work. Their schedule is so packed that they hardly get enough sleep. Believe me, when you're exhausted, you do not have time to be bullying. Your mind needs to focus on the work at hand.
    We've been following them so long that I know those who claimed they were fans weren't really fans because they wouldn't believe most of those rumors. They would recall that the girls were always exhausted, but putting the extra mile to get their job done. Refunding the fan club membership fees because they felt bad for their fans long wait and all the other stuff they do for fans. Can you really forget all their good intentions for rumors?
    They always have a camera on them too. There have been so many shows that follow them while they are on their 'free time' which of course is not because they are still filming for the show and following them to their concert. How can you even start bullying someone when you are always being watched? I can understand not being best friends with everybody but to actually bully like the rumors sound ridiculous. Variety shows are known to be ridiculous and create laughs. The more ridiculous you are, the more screen time you will have.
    I am sure KKS was upset that Hwayoung did not go perform and the girls had to scramble to remember the lines. We don't know why she chose not to and I guess that answer may ease some anti-fans. However, being who he is and how he monitors the girls closely (if you recall, he makes them do a video call with him so he can see if their outfits are all in place, although i don't know if he still goes to that extreme) i am sure he was not happy to have her defy him and publicly considering it was at a music show so others would have known she decided not to perform. We do not know how she has been behaving before this nor how the girls were behaving or how their teamwork has played out but it makes me wonder about his announcement in April. Something triggered him to make that statement and add two more girls. If I had to know the truth, I'd like to know what first set him off to make that announcement and decision.
    I'm probably ranting because the fans turned anti-fans annoy me. It makes me wonder if they really were fans to not recall the other stuff that we know about T-ara and continuously make hurtful comments including name calling and telling them to die. Very mature....
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    raven_potter reacted to xCivx in [12.08.01] Hwayoung apologized to CEO Kim Kwangsoo in tears   
    It doesn't matter why she didn't appear on stage.
    This is the life of an idol, they have a contract and they must follow it unless it is life or death, why do you think there are people fainting all over the place.
    This is real life, if you don't listen to your boss you get fired.
    It doesn't even matter if I sound like a hater, because this is how life is.
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    raven_potter reacted to eunjungbias in [12.07.31] T-ara to temporarily halt activities   
    Praying things will be fine. Just want them to be safe. Although things don't seem to be looking up now but....keeping the faith >____<
    At least the halt in activities will do the members some good cos they really need to settle all this closed door first before going out in public don't want people to start bashing them physically..
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    raven_potter got a reaction from jknlet in [12.07.30] SBS "Five Fingers" staff, "Regardless of T-ara's issues, Eunjung is not being replaced"   
    its like a ray of sunshine in these dark gloomy day. Eunjung fighting. Good for the drama producers
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    raven_potter reacted to SimonH in [12.07.30] T-ara's CEO, "Hwayoung's contract has been terminated"   
    I liked and will continue to like T-ara not for their popularity. The current storm won't blow me out of their fandom.
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    raven_potter reacted to BeautifulRobot in [12.07. 30] T-ara's agency "Hwayoung, refused to perform during a live show, 'I can't go on stage.'"   
    I honestly believe this.
    Finally a smart comment from AKP:
    "Let's think about this for a sec: Not only did they have to change the formations a bit to accommodate for two missing members, but they had to learn difficult rap lyrics (and the rhythm) in 10-15 minutes. This all makes complete sense to me. They would not have cue cards up for Hyomin and Eunjung if they had prepared in advance.
    Eunjung and Hyomin would've had Hwayoung's raps memorized if they would've known in advance. There were GUYS HOLDING UP CUE CARDS for Hwayoung's parts!"
    The tweets were posted on the day after Music Bank. They were talking about dedication and manners. It all fits together very well.
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    raven_potter got a reaction from Desti in [12.07.30] SBS "Five Fingers" staff, "Regardless of T-ara's issues, Eunjung is not being replaced"   
    its like a ray of sunshine in these dark gloomy day. Eunjung fighting. Good for the drama producers
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    raven_potter got a reaction from cruzer1979 in [12.07.30] SBS "Five Fingers" staff, "Regardless of T-ara's issues, Eunjung is not being replaced"   
    its like a ray of sunshine in these dark gloomy day. Eunjung fighting. Good for the drama producers
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    raven_potter reacted to nathaniel in [12.07.30] SBS "Five Fingers" staff, "Regardless of T-ara's issues, Eunjung is not being replaced"   
    [12.07.30] SBS "Five Fingers" staff, "Regardless of T-ara's issues, Eunjung is not being replaced"





    Girl group T-ara's recent "bullying situation" has blown up online, and SBS drama "Five Fingers" which Eunjung is cast in has responded.
    "Five Fingers" content producer said to Star News on the 30th, "Currently, Eunjung's appearance in 'Five Fingers' and everything related to it is staying the same. Because of the changes happening in T-ara, it is not relevant or directly related to Eunjung's role in the drama."
    He continued, "We hope that viewers can separate the personal matters and differences going on between the members and separate it from the content and appearance of Eunjung in 'Five Fingers'. Such problems are about T-ara and currently there are no problems with Eunjung."
    Eunjung will star in "Five Fingers" which will have it's first broadcast in August.
    Meanwhile, T-ara's agency Core Contents Media revealed that Hwayoung's contract had been terminated today, and that it "had nothing to do with the bullying situation."
    ***
    Source: http://news.nate.com/view/20120730n17763
    Translated by: Nathaniel @ Diadem
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    raven_potter got a reaction from hyominheart in [12.07.30] T-ara's CEO, "Hwayoung's contract has been terminated"   
    For me the only one to blame here is KKS and the netizens too.
    KKS, for first of all adding new members to the group disrupting their harmony second of all for not managing t-ara pr better i mean mostly all their pr just sucks. lastly for not really clarifying things for us.
    The netizens for blowing this things out of proportions. I mean these would just fly right out of the window and everyone's mind if they just didn't stop bashing t-ara.
    And lastly for hwayoung, this actually became bigger when she and her sister and rapping coach replied to the tweet of the other member but i think though that they already felt that hwayoung will be gone so they made this to make her more victimized than ever.
    anyways i don't condone what t-ara did but i think there's a reason why they did it since for me i don't think they would be stupid enough to risjk their image just for this.
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    raven_potter got a reaction from Farnaz in [12.07.30] T-ara's CEO, "Hwayoung's contract has been terminated"   
    For me the only one to blame here is KKS and the netizens too.
    KKS, for first of all adding new members to the group disrupting their harmony second of all for not managing t-ara pr better i mean mostly all their pr just sucks. lastly for not really clarifying things for us.
    The netizens for blowing this things out of proportions. I mean these would just fly right out of the window and everyone's mind if they just didn't stop bashing t-ara.
    And lastly for hwayoung, this actually became bigger when she and her sister and rapping coach replied to the tweet of the other member but i think though that they already felt that hwayoung will be gone so they made this to make her more victimized than ever.
    anyways i don't condone what t-ara did but i think there's a reason why they did it since for me i don't think they would be stupid enough to risjk their image just for this.
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    raven_potter reacted to scelesters in [12.07.30] T-ara's CEO, "Hwayoung's contract has been terminated"   
    I had many similar thoughts as you. This grew out of proportion when netizens including those that I have seen asking why? Why? T-ara is bullying Hwayoung! comments. It was ridiculous to even think so and especially the pictures and clips we see coming out now are all taken out of context.
    Secondly, a lot of people have been saying Why Hwayoung? She's innocent, she hasn't done anything? Have you not noticed that she was continuously tweeting away while the other girls kept quiet. That only fueled the netizens more. It was like she was asking for sympathy and its like only hearing her side of the story. We'll never know but I know that the T-ara girls have been in this profession longer and also worked their butts off to get to where they are. They wouldn't be bullying someone so blatantly as everyone is claiming. Anyone who believes it needs to improve their critical thinking. See more than the opinions you read.
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    raven_potter got a reaction from Heroholicz in [12.07.30] T-ara's CEO, "Hwayoung's contract has been terminated"   
    KKS pretty much just made it worse. ZFor now it would be better if KKS also adds anouncement that the group will be having a hiatus just to calm things down.. Anyways T-ara forever!!!
    T-ara fighting , we, the QUeens will al get through this
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    raven_potter got a reaction from CiKirana in [12.07.30] T-ara's CEO, "Hwayoung's contract has been terminated"   
    KKS pretty much just made it worse. ZFor now it would be better if KKS also adds anouncement that the group will be having a hiatus just to calm things down.. Anyways T-ara forever!!!
    T-ara fighting , we, the QUeens will al get through this
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    raven_potter got a reaction from scelesters in [12.07.30] T-ara's CEO, "Hwayoung's contract has been terminated"   
    For me the only one to blame here is KKS and the netizens too.
    KKS, for first of all adding new members to the group disrupting their harmony second of all for not managing t-ara pr better i mean mostly all their pr just sucks. lastly for not really clarifying things for us.
    The netizens for blowing this things out of proportions. I mean these would just fly right out of the window and everyone's mind if they just didn't stop bashing t-ara.
    And lastly for hwayoung, this actually became bigger when she and her sister and rapping coach replied to the tweet of the other member but i think though that they already felt that hwayoung will be gone so they made this to make her more victimized than ever.
    anyways i don't condone what t-ara did but i think there's a reason why they did it since for me i don't think they would be stupid enough to risjk their image just for this.
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    raven_potter got a reaction from ☆ 원유란 in [12.07.30] T-ara's CEO, "Hwayoung's contract has been terminated"   
    KKS pretty much just made it worse. ZFor now it would be better if KKS also adds anouncement that the group will be having a hiatus just to calm things down.. Anyways T-ara forever!!!
    T-ara fighting , we, the QUeens will al get through this
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    raven_potter got a reaction from critine in [12.07.30] T-ara's CEO, "Hwayoung's contract has been terminated"   
    For me the only one to blame here is KKS and the netizens too.
    KKS, for first of all adding new members to the group disrupting their harmony second of all for not managing t-ara pr better i mean mostly all their pr just sucks. lastly for not really clarifying things for us.
    The netizens for blowing this things out of proportions. I mean these would just fly right out of the window and everyone's mind if they just didn't stop bashing t-ara.
    And lastly for hwayoung, this actually became bigger when she and her sister and rapping coach replied to the tweet of the other member but i think though that they already felt that hwayoung will be gone so they made this to make her more victimized than ever.
    anyways i don't condone what t-ara did but i think there's a reason why they did it since for me i don't think they would be stupid enough to risjk their image just for this.
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    raven_potter got a reaction from Borus in [12.07.30] T-ara's CEO, "Hwayoung's contract has been terminated"   
    KKS pretty much just made it worse. ZFor now it would be better if KKS also adds anouncement that the group will be having a hiatus just to calm things down.. Anyways T-ara forever!!!
    T-ara fighting , we, the QUeens will al get through this
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    raven_potter got a reaction from heartmind in [12.07.30] T-ara's CEO, "Hwayoung's contract has been terminated"   
    For me the only one to blame here is KKS and the netizens too.
    KKS, for first of all adding new members to the group disrupting their harmony second of all for not managing t-ara pr better i mean mostly all their pr just sucks. lastly for not really clarifying things for us.
    The netizens for blowing this things out of proportions. I mean these would just fly right out of the window and everyone's mind if they just didn't stop bashing t-ara.
    And lastly for hwayoung, this actually became bigger when she and her sister and rapping coach replied to the tweet of the other member but i think though that they already felt that hwayoung will be gone so they made this to make her more victimized than ever.
    anyways i don't condone what t-ara did but i think there's a reason why they did it since for me i don't think they would be stupid enough to risjk their image just for this.
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    raven_potter got a reaction from CiKirana in [12.07.30] T-ara's CEO, "Hwayoung's contract has been terminated"   
    For me the only one to blame here is KKS and the netizens too.
    KKS, for first of all adding new members to the group disrupting their harmony second of all for not managing t-ara pr better i mean mostly all their pr just sucks. lastly for not really clarifying things for us.
    The netizens for blowing this things out of proportions. I mean these would just fly right out of the window and everyone's mind if they just didn't stop bashing t-ara.
    And lastly for hwayoung, this actually became bigger when she and her sister and rapping coach replied to the tweet of the other member but i think though that they already felt that hwayoung will be gone so they made this to make her more victimized than ever.
    anyways i don't condone what t-ara did but i think there's a reason why they did it since for me i don't think they would be stupid enough to risjk their image just for this.
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    raven_potter reacted to j4trail in [12.07.28] Core Contents Media's CEO to make a very big announcement regarding T-ara on the 30th   
    I don't buy that especially Soyeon would publicly insult any member on twitter. Apart from being the current leader, she's rather mature and a good speaker, she knows better than this.
    I just don't buy the whole incident. Haters gonna hate.
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