Kerotan

see... they cant resist seeing T-ara... because they lubs them still and is in denial XD

Sorry, it was so late when I wrote that, I see millions of mistakes in my grammar, lol. I almost think I should delete it. You seem to know what I was trying to say, but I meant to write I don't think you're fake if you doubt them or are disappointed but still support them, and I don't think you're delusional if you believe they are innocent. It's what you're basing your opinions on that matter, and whether you are looking at the problem from both perspectives.A big part of the appeal of Kpop is the flawless image of the idols, so I can't bash on that aspect too much. I just wanted to clarify I have no problem with people having very high expectations for their idols, but I don't think it's right to throw out poorly formed accusations when they let you down.
Even though I think member additions were a mistake, I still like Hwayoung a lot, and I miss her. Too bad it ended up like this.

http://hieuns.tumblr.com/post/28565853740
this is like.. omg... you guys have to click on it XD

Damn, such bullies. Did you know that saying Happy Birthday is also an extreme act of bullying since you're reminding them of their age
XD

You asked a very good question. For me, it's okay to doubt. It just means that you don't have enough trust in them BUT it's perfectly fine (at least for me). The reason is YOU DON'T KNOW THEM. Nobody does except people who are close to them and I'm sorry that fans do not belong to that category. I doubted them too, initially. Hell, I even believed that Jiyeon might have slapped Hwayoung. But when all that utter rubbish about Boram the umbrella destroyer, Jiyeon the book bully, Hyomin the eye poker and Eunjung the ricecake murderer came out, I just can't. So does doubting make you a "fake" Queen, I don't think so since well, you are still here. About being delusional. err I am not sure to what extent is your delusional level. If you believe that T-ara are a bunch of angels, then you are delusional because obviously they are not. Angels should go to heaven, not stay on Earth and get tormented.
I am getting tired of all these arguments on whether there's any bullying or not. This article is right by saying believe whatever you want to believe but yes I agree with @klee, it's a bit bias towards there's no bullying. It doesn't matter anyway cause in the end, some fans will believe that there's no bullying, some fans will believe that there's bullying but they learn to forgive and some antis will always believe that there's bullying. So it's perfectly balance. As long as you are happy, believe whatever you wanna believe. Just don't go overboard like what the antis did. I personally believe that T-ara is not a bunch of bullies but I don't completely deny the fact that bullying might have happened. It's something like you believe that you can get A in exam but you don't deny the fact that you won't be able to get an A. There's a difference between I AM SURE that there's no bullying and I BELIEVE that there's no bullying. (Urgh, this sounds confusing). Never mind. I might be delusional then but I'M A HAPPY DELUSIONAL FAN. My point is believe whatever you want to believe, that's all.
It's too late now to analyse or blame on anything/anyone now. The damage is done and all we can hope is T-ara to bounce back or KKS to resign or T-ara to move to a new company or a news about Qri getting married. I want that Sexy Love NOW !!

You could speculate all you want about every person in the world that you don't know, but it's not going to mean anything. You're right, we have no idea what T-ARA members are "really" like, and we're not supposed to. But the same is true of every group, of every celebrity. And yet, most people don't actively attempt to find flaws in every celebrity they see and perhaps don't particularly right. Well, that's not really true I suppose. That's a part of fame culture, after all, isn't it? Trying to bring others down. But I doubt most people would say that's a positive aspect of it. Regardless, speculating without anything but circumstantial evidence is pointless, whether it's about T-ARA or 2NE1.

Honestly I'm not one of the 'all' you're talking about. When i first heard the news, I refused to believe it.
Or rather I thought it was rather ridiculous. Sure, I might be a blind fan but I mean, there was no actual solid proof that it had really happen. It might, it might not. But we'll never know. It's only for T-ara, Hwayoung and CCM to know and for us to never find out.
"why do we speak so badly about others." -- I guess I haven't been on in a while, but are you saying that there were some of us who spoke badly of T-ara? Well, I'm not surprised. Everyone has their own opinions, and it's very unfortunate that there are people who don't use their common sense (or their brains for that matter) to actually look at it instead of believing everything the media throws at them.
These netizens don't realize that what they are doing is also considered bullying. But meh, what can you do with immature, hot-headed, arrogant netizens? It's just one ear and out the other for them.
This news if very unfortunate. It seems T-ara will not be remembered for their awesome music but the fact that they were involved in a bully controversy

[12.08.05] True or not, the public will only believe what they want about T-ara's bullying situation





"Tara-'s Hwayoung Was Not Bullied!" Written by Kim Yong Hyo, a reporter who has written many editorials on hot issues within the entertainment industry for the column [연예세상 비틀어보기]
T-ara’s Hwayoung never once mentioned the word “bullying.” And in reality she was not bullied. Netizens are merely creating evidence of bullying. (Those who seek the truth about such ‘bullying evidence’ please see the post http://thetaratruth.tumblr.com). Nevertheless, the public now believes “Hwayoung was bullied” as the truth. Why is this? Probably because from the very beginning, many believed in the rumour that there is bullying among girl groups in the entertainment industry. But some activists used what is claimed as ‘evidence’ to cleverly fabricate stories and to stir up the innocent and trusting public.
The first time I heard about the news of Hwayoung being bullied, I asked “So you’re saying that T-ara’s Hwayoung was bullied”? Because this it not the truth. Recently, I went with T-ara to their Tokyo Concert to gather information, and Hwayoung and the other members got along very well. Used in relation to her, the word ‘bullied’ is inappropriate. Born with a beautiful appearance to a relatively well-off family, she grew up lacking nothing. And also with her father’s vigorous support for his daughter to become an artist. (Personally finding his way to a large agency company for his twin daughters to become artists, and interfering with CCM with all his might, a father like this, if his daughter really was bullied, would he really stand by and do nothing?)
Of course, because young girls are grouped together in girl groups, issues of envy and jealousy will come up sometimes. (This is true not only with T-ara, but also other girl groups). But to part of the public who are on a witch-hunt against T-ara, these issues were not small conflicts, but collective violence. I can guarantee, such incidents did not, and could not possibly exist. But the public believes that T-ara members are bullies, without a doubt. Therefore, some of the members’ past and private life etc have also been dragged out into the public for discussion. Even more cunningly, netizens have packaged and claimed their actions on the internet as done to protect the victim Hwayoung from the other members’ violence and bullying.
T-ara is now fully wounded. But the cruel public continues to use their hatefully crafted products (i.e the ‘evidence’) to mock them. They truly see their own actions as legitimate and just. T-ara’s Hwayoung was not bullied. Even if there was conflict with Hwayoung, the level of intensity and strength compared to the bashing now done to Tara is not even one in a million.
The public only believes what it wants to believe. The more frightening part is that they will never admit or accept any rebuttals to the contrary. Their reaction to this article will probably be, “Oh, he must have received money from Kim Kwangsoo.” But this is not a rebuttal. It is the truth that those who hate T-ara never want to believe.
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Source: http://news.nate.com/view/20120805n15192
Translated via Chinese translations by: @kckclalala

if you don't want to see them then don't watch the show..why demand for an apology. Lucky for you antis you have channel that shows t-ara..unfortunate for me because even though i want to see them on my tv screen, i can't because korean channels here is so expensive..psshhh.. t-ara fan here forever!

For me, I would say that Hwayoung wasn't close to other members, but bullying would be too strong a word for that. I wouldn't deny that there was a rift going on in the incident and most members have a different opinions than Hwayoung, but that's it. The members decision to bring the differences online was a big mistake, but does that make them a bully ? I'm sure that if we had left them alone the situation would have been sorted out like most girlfights. And not ended up by Hwayoung leaving and T-ara taking all the hate.
I've never idolize T-ara. They're a group of girls who has different strengths and weaknesses, but putting them together on stage makes them one of the best GG entertainers in K-pop. I just don't want to see them getting all the hate they don't deserve from the people who don't really know them.

Demanding an apology for broadcasting T ara members.......netizens grow up..

Well, I'm pretty sure they will turn him down, I think they are having too much fun being in the news. I guess they might accept if they think he will give them money to keep quiet.
Can't wait to see the "protest". It should provide for some comic relief!

Well, I'm pretty sure they will turn him down, I think they are having too much fun being in the news. I guess they might accept if they think he will give them money to keep quiet.
Can't wait to see the "protest". It should provide for some comic relief!

if they really want the truth, they should meet KKS..
i can't wait to hear the news tomorrow..
but i read somewhere that the protest is canceled and the leader of t-jinyo is merely only 15 years old..

^Lol supposedly they were cleared for only 30 people to actually be able to protest. 30 out of 340,000. They're quickly becoming a joke.
Anyways, this is about as close as they're going to get to what they're trying to accomplish, they'd be silly not to take him up on it. If KKS can handle this properly (and I still question his PR skills), then maybe, just MAYBE, this can do some good. We shall see.

I'm totally taking credit for this with that article I did for T-ara! LMAO!

"The situation is at a point where it's finally calmed down."
Finally is right. This whole thing has been blown waaaay out of proportion by anti-fans and ex-"Queen's", or so they would have called themselves a while back. Kind of makes me sad that these are people who once called themselves T-ara fans and supporters. Some support they're giving, eh?
I've also started noticing that things are more calm than they were say three or four days ago. Hopefully this means that T-ara will finally start having some sort of peace.
Whatever the case, T-ara will take something from this. If the bullying is true, then they will learn that bullying has severe consequences. If it's not true, then perhaps they will learn that a few ambiguous tweets, followed by another ambiguous tweet can lead to trouble. And that their "fanbase" isn't exactly stable, so it'd be best to act accordingly. I do know that internal conflicts will arise. That's a given, and it doesn't happen exclusively to T-ara. Hopefully next time an issue arises within T-ara, they will know not to reveal it to the public and to try their best to resolve any problems they have.

I sincerely hope the girls can find all sorts of solace in pieces of good news like this. In times like this, every single form of love and support will mean so much to them. I hate to imagine them being sad or even tearing. May everything tide over soon and happiness reach their hearts once again

^Yes, it seems that the worst is finally coming to an end...it looks like a lot of people are now finally starting to take a step back and are realizing that what has been going on is NOT right. People are coming to their senses, or finally feel comfortable enough with the whole situation to speak up and discuss the matter in a more civilized manner. The anti's and haters are running out of things to do, so now we're at the "conspiracy theory" level of this whole mess, which is where most people start tuning out. I'm not saying it's over by a long shot, but at least things aren't the sh!tstorm that they've been for the last three days.
It doesn't surprise me that a lot of SONEs are empathetic and are showing support to T-ara and their fandom...if any other fandom knows what it's like to have more antis than fans and basically be dragged through the mud, it's them. And God bless them for showing their support.

And there is still no explanation as to why she didn't appear on stage, not that I'd expect him to tell the truth. Like everyone is saying, it seems we will never hear it addressed unless one of the members defies him and makes a statement about it.
And this doesn't seem to indicate whether or not she has rejoined T-ara. I guess he's saving that for later?

wow. i really have to admire him because so many others have backed out on anything to do with t-ara. I don't know how long he has worked with soyeon or worked as a PD, but majority of a person's attitude can be seen after a few weeks unless they are that good at pretending. Just happy to see more good news towards the end of july regarding my girls compared to a big can of curry falling on my big toe today at work lol. july is really not my month this year lol.

And there is still no explanation as to why she didn't appear on stage, not that I'd expect him to tell the truth. Like everyone is saying, it seems we will never hear it addressed unless one of the members defies him and makes a statement about it.
And this doesn't seem to indicate whether or not she has rejoined T-ara. I guess he's saving that for later?

I just read a funny comment on AKP, thought I would share it with you guys
"According to people here:
If T-ARA says something, they're obviously lying bitches.
If KKS says something, he's obviously lying because that just how he is.
If Hwayoung says something, she's obviously lying because KKS told her to.
But if anonymous people say things against T-ARA, they're obviously telling the truth even though it's baseless.
Why bother demanding the truth when your obviously going to label it as a lie?"

This is the first time I posted in months but I've got so much to say. I remember when Hwayoung was a newbie member and I disliked her at first. I mean, why did they need a rapper when the had two already. Then, I really got to know Hwayoung and from what I saw I really liked. Her skills as a rapper AND dancer were phenomenal! It's so disconcerting to see this happen to her. I just really wish KKS would admit blame for some of this fiasco. I'm still holding out on the possibility of her coming back!
Hwayoung FIGHTING!

Sigh, yet he still shifts the blame toward Hwayoung, the sister and T-ara. Last time I checked it was his dodging the truth and mud-slinging that fueled the fire anyways. How about, "I should've taken better care of my employees who are still very young at heart and mind". Would've at least made him look somewhat sympathetic and grateful for his employees. After all, what is CCM without T-ara.