Kerotan

The anti's stories are falling apart one by one and we are seeing that everything AKP has released is infact just hate filled lies.
True QUEEN'S already knew that everything on AKP that has to do with T-Ara right now is just BS and lies.

I was a little disappointed that Oniontaker retweeted the original article. Since Allkpop published it, it was obviously more likely than not to be completely untrue. Well, I guess it goes to show that many are making judgement calls based on what is the current hot issue for the sake of entertaining the masses, rather than using reliable sources.

I was a little disappointed that Oniontaker retweeted the original article. Since Allkpop published it, it was obviously more likely than not to be completely untrue. Well, I guess it goes to show that many are making judgement calls based on what is the current hot issue for the sake of entertaining the masses, rather than using reliable sources.

"WOAH, THIS GUY CLAIMS TO BE T-ARA'S BACKUP DANCER AND HE SAID JIYEON SLAPPED HWAYOUNG? PUBLISH THAT ISH NOW!!! WHAT OR YOU WAITING FOR!?!?!" XD

The sad fact is that even with all the new circumstances that have come to light (some more believable than others) a lot of people are going to continue to hold onto the bullying theory simply because it's what caught most people's attention in the first place. The damage has been done, I really don't think any amount of damage control from a spin doctor is going to make this go away.

No, it's not that he blames 6-ara, it's that he doesn't think it's fair to question the validity of a fan's loyalty just because they may not be sure if the bullying claims are true or not.
Right now some peeps need to take a step back and just breathe. This has gotten completely out of control. This should be a safe place where we, as the fans, should be coming together and talking about all of this in a calm and rational manner...not ripping each other's throats out. T-ara's future is at risk right now, and to be honest I'm not sure it ultimately matters who did what...eight girl's lives (nine if you count Dani) is probably going to be ruined because of a few jerks on the internet with too much time on their hands.
Regardless of your stance on the matter, right now is NOT the time to be tearing each other down. There are plenty of anti-fans out there who are MORE than happy to put us in our place. Let's not do it to each other.

I'm glad you thought that about Hyomin too, it was my first thought even before I knew about this whole controversy.And I agree about Hwayoung, it seems out of character. But I could understand her reaching a breaking point because of frustration and humiliation over her injury, especially when she finally gets to be the star of their comeback single. But as you said, who knows, and we don't really know what any of them are truly like, obviously. It is unnerving to me that this statement closely fits all the theories I had before I read anyone else's opinion.

Yeah, a few of the random posters there have brains. I noticed they like to aggravate the trolls by being rational and using logic. Pretty obvious something major happened before that performance, but now we have to figure out what exactly that was. It's painful to have to rely on CCM statements alone, lol.

Not in all cases. They aren't hounded like SNSD, and what happens backstage is not open to the fans.I don't know what to believe right now since I never trusted CCM, but I have been wondering from that very performance, just how did Hyomin forget those lyrics if she had time to prepare, especially since she also has trained for years at rapping? And why didn't Hwayoung perform in the chair at this relatively little show, as she did at the biggest concert of their career (Budokan)?
I've been wondering this since these rumors started, but I've kept my mouth shut so as not to instigate Hwayoung fans. I am a Hwayoung fan as well, but what doesn't make sense stands out to me.

That's exactly why I couldn't support the whole "they've been bullying for years" theory. They specifically said "determination", which instantly told me someone felt someone else wasn't pulling their weight in a business sense. Very few seemed to pick up on that. It was a professional/business ethic reference, and these performances are their business. To me, this whole situation was the result of someone's behavior at a very specific time and place, and frustration overcame them. Whether or not this statement is accurate, it sure explains a lot if true.Even so, I can't "turn against" Hwayoung until I have some actual evidence, and even then I still feel sorry for her.

So you feel that she may have acted this way as a result of being bullied after Budokan? This Music Bank stage was the same day as Hyomin's initial tweet, so how do we know Hyomin's tweet wasn't a reference to this alleged tantrum? Not taking sides, just curious as to how you reached your conclusion.

That's exactly why I couldn't support the whole "they've been bullying for years" theory. They specifically said "determination", which instantly told me someone felt someone else wasn't pulling their weight in a business sense. Very few seemed to pick up on that. It was a professional/business ethic reference, and these performances are their business. To me, this whole situation was the result of someone's behavior at a very specific time and place, and frustration overcame them. Whether or not this statement is accurate, it sure explains a lot if true.Even so, I can't "turn against" Hwayoung until I have some actual evidence, and even then I still feel sorry for her.

I was wondering the same. To miss both the main vocal and the main rapper who play prominent roles is a bit too much. It was hard to watch that performance but I commend them for sticking it out.
Yeah, Hyomin is well known in the T-ara fandom for being a workaholic. And we have seen multiple times that Eunjung and the rest are almost perfectionists. They record their performances and beat themselves up for every minute mistakes. (Case point: EJ being all frustrated at herself for being too forceful in her dancing?)
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To be honest, I don't know what to think. I still don't see the members as bullies but neither do I see Hwayoung as the diva-ish kind.
Extra: A ton of people has been quick to throw Jiyeon under the bus for being the number 1 bully. Really? Yoo In Na once said that she was as fragile as glass. And IU said that though she looks like a cold city girl, she is in actually fact a complete fool. Coupled with the fact that she is the member who gets flamed the most (Kim Tae Hee lookalike....the latest beofre this being the nong shim raymum fiasco). I'm not saying that she is as docile as a lamb but to say she's a callous bully is a little far fetched. Yeah I might seem like a gullible & deluded faceless stan to you but so be it. [/steps off soapbox]

Not in all cases. They aren't hounded like SNSD, and what happens backstage is not open to the fans.I don't know what to believe right now since I never trusted CCM, but I have been wondering from that very performance, just how did Hyomin forget those lyrics if she had time to prepare, especially since she also has trained for years at rapping? And why didn't Hwayoung perform in the chair at this relatively little show, as she did at the biggest concert of their career (Budokan)?
I've been wondering this since these rumors started, but I've kept my mouth shut so as not to instigate Hwayoung fans. I am a Hwayoung fan as well, but what doesn't make sense stands out to me.

Oh, by no means do I agree with what KKS is doing right now. He's only making the girls look worse and worse every time he releases another statement, and I really do wish he'd just shut the hell up. T-ara needs to go on hiatus, that much is clear. Sexy Love will keep until next year, for now, they need a break to clear the air because sending them out for another round of promotions so shortly after this fiasco is simply throwing them out to the wolves.
Part of me thinks that's their punishment.

Promotions for Sexy Love will go on as scheduled.
God, I wish he'd just let up on them for a bit. They need to disappear for a while.
If Sexy Love is a hit then I will trade in my nursing license and work at Burger King for the rest of my life.

I see exactly what you mean, and if your theory is true, I completely agree that Hwayoung had a right to be upset. And what might have caused her alleged tantrum is the key, because if it was the result of "bullying" before Music Bank, then we have no way of ever knowing unless a member says it, which doesn't seem likely to happen.

My heart went out to her while watching that performance too. She clearly struggled. The only thing I would've done different is call Hwayoung out on it in person. This whole mess started because of Twitter, hopefully the girls think twice from now on before taking to it to express their thoughts and opinions on the matter.

Me too. The top comment of course is trying to bring up stupid excuses to make this seem not true. Everyone flag it.
I don't want an all out Hwayoung hate parade there though. I'm sure she had her reasons for not wanting to perform. I just want T-ara's side of the story to be told and I want their name cleared from all of these terrible rumors about them.

If she was there at rehearsals, that does give weight to the argument that it was her decision to not go up there. Really, I felt terrible for Hyomin while watching that, and it would make perfect sense that she would be the first to tweet something about it, since struggling to read the lyrics like that was completely embarassing. It is true that Eunjung memorized her lyrics, but well, I think Eunjung was the lead rapper of the group for a reason.

Yeah, a few of the random posters there have brains. I noticed they like to aggravate the trolls by being rational and using logic. Pretty obvious something major happened before that performance, but now we have to figure out what exactly that was. It's painful to have to rely on CCM statements alone, lol.

I'm glad you thought that about Hyomin too, it was my first thought even before I knew about this whole controversy.And I agree about Hwayoung, it seems out of character. But I could understand her reaching a breaking point because of frustration and humiliation over her injury, especially when she finally gets to be the star of their comeback single. But as you said, who knows, and we don't really know what any of them are truly like, obviously. It is unnerving to me that this statement closely fits all the theories I had before I read anyone else's opinion.

I'm glad you thought that about Hyomin too, it was my first thought even before I knew about this whole controversy.And I agree about Hwayoung, it seems out of character. But I could understand her reaching a breaking point because of frustration and humiliation over her injury, especially when she finally gets to be the star of their comeback single. But as you said, who knows, and we don't really know what any of them are truly like, obviously. It is unnerving to me that this statement closely fits all the theories I had before I read anyone else's opinion.

finally..someone have brains to think like this..no wonder hyomin stumble up during the rap..

Honestly, and I hate to anger Hwayoung fans, but this whole story fits together much better than any bullying theory I've seen so far. It's still far-fetched since it seems so out of character for Hwayoung, though...but who knows.
All I know is that Hyomin LIVES for the stage. Had she known in advance that she was going to have to do Hwa's rap she would've had that sh!t memorized and ready to go, because she's a whore for the spotlight. That she not only had to use cue cards to get through the rap but messed it up (poor dear seems to be having a time with on-stage gaffes lately) tells me that something wasn't right.