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That's exactly why I couldn't support the whole "they've been bullying for years" theory. They specifically said "determination", which instantly told me someone felt someone else wasn't pulling their weight in a business sense. Very few seemed to pick up on that. It was a professional/business ethic reference, and these performances are their business. To me, this whole situation was the result of someone's behavior at a very specific time and place, and frustration overcame them. Whether or not this statement is accurate, it sure explains a lot if true.Even so, I can't "turn against" Hwayoung until I have some actual evidence, and even then I still feel sorry for her.

Yeah, a few of the random posters there have brains. I noticed they like to aggravate the trolls by being rational and using logic. Pretty obvious something major happened before that performance, but now we have to figure out what exactly that was. It's painful to have to rely on CCM statements alone, lol.

That's exactly why I couldn't support the whole "they've been bullying for years" theory. They specifically said "determination", which instantly told me someone felt someone else wasn't pulling their weight in a business sense. Very few seemed to pick up on that. It was a professional/business ethic reference, and these performances are their business. To me, this whole situation was the result of someone's behavior at a very specific time and place, and frustration overcame them. Whether or not this statement is accurate, it sure explains a lot if true.Even so, I can't "turn against" Hwayoung until I have some actual evidence, and even then I still feel sorry for her.

I honestly believe this.
Finally a smart comment from AKP:
"Let's think about this for a sec: Not only did they have to change the formations a bit to accommodate for two missing members, but they had to learn difficult rap lyrics (and the rhythm) in 10-15 minutes. This all makes complete sense to me. They would not have cue cards up for Hyomin and Eunjung if they had prepared in advance.
Eunjung and Hyomin would've had Hwayoung's raps memorized if they would've known in advance. There were GUYS HOLDING UP CUE CARDS for Hwayoung's parts!"
The tweets were posted on the day after Music Bank. They were talking about dedication and manners. It all fits together very well.

That's exactly why I couldn't support the whole "they've been bullying for years" theory. They specifically said "determination", which instantly told me someone felt someone else wasn't pulling their weight in a business sense. Very few seemed to pick up on that. It was a professional/business ethic reference, and these performances are their business. To me, this whole situation was the result of someone's behavior at a very specific time and place, and frustration overcame them. Whether or not this statement is accurate, it sure explains a lot if true.Even so, I can't "turn against" Hwayoung until I have some actual evidence, and even then I still feel sorry for her.

That's exactly why I couldn't support the whole "they've been bullying for years" theory. They specifically said "determination", which instantly told me someone felt someone else wasn't pulling their weight in a business sense. Very few seemed to pick up on that. It was a professional/business ethic reference, and these performances are their business. To me, this whole situation was the result of someone's behavior at a very specific time and place, and frustration overcame them. Whether or not this statement is accurate, it sure explains a lot if true.Even so, I can't "turn against" Hwayoung until I have some actual evidence, and even then I still feel sorry for her.

Sadly, I think too many people are having fun with the other statements to even bother reading this one. Hopefully, Diadem will make new headlines as these statements are released so everyone can see them.

when i read this article...it look like only kks who made this desicion....and why he not allowed t-ara member talk about this isssue to
clear this thing...it's just make netizens hate t-ara more
and based on this i think until end of the world we still don't know the truth
btw t-ara hwaiting!!!!hwayoung hwaiting!!!!

Sad to see and I dont really believe anything the media noir the CEO says unless the members make some clarification/tweets.
Please dont be foolish and believe everything someone says.
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That's not evidence though, that's stuff that can look wrong when presented in the wrong context. I saw ALL of those instances in their original context, and not ONCE did I ever think "Hmmm, Hwayoung sure does seem to be getting a lot of flack from the others." This is a case of a few people having entirely too much time on their hands and nitpicking. Just as much evidence can be found to the contrary, like Hyomin and Eunjung helping Hwayoung put her shoes back on after the Thai concert, or Jiyeon feeding Hwayoung during Flower Boys, or Boram playfully messing around with Hwa at the Idol Olympics by gently hitting her umbrella against hers. Yes, that last one is one of the current ones that has everyone up in arms, and it's complete and utter bullsh!t. Do NOT buy into the netizen's bull, they are out for blood and are looking for every last bit of evidence they can to back up their claims while refuting/ignoring everything that shows they may just be grasping at straws. This is NOT me being a delusional fanboy, this is me be calm and rational, and I'm begging you to PLEASE wait it out until the announcement.

watching running man ep 93. it just so happens the background music playing on the show right now is from the dark knight OST. The music is really building the suspense to the news I'm waiting to hear about.........
people live for gossip and rumors. don't let what others say get to you because its what they want.

Haha! Waiting for Day By Day was so annoying! I stayed up for nothing because it got delayed -.- And I was like O.O thanks mr kim i can sleep now -__- Yes! He better not delay the announcement Im curious o~o
Yup, yup! Its probably not bullying! I believe in them ^w^ Plus, they have a good bond. Based on most variety shows like Starlife theatre, hello baby, pretty boys, and stuff they're really so comfy with each other The comments on AKP are really heart-breaking tho T__T some "queens" fell for AKP's trash -.- and now random people are bashing t-ara and "siding" with hwayoung even though they've never been a fan. some immature kpop fans like drama. -___- 3 more hours!!! Just gonna watch all T-Ara's long MV's to kill time xD

For some reason I don't think Boram ever followed Hwayoung on Twitter. I remember checking out their Twitters and i know a few members were not following other members so it may all be a miss understanding. I do know that Hwayoung shared a room with Hyomin and Jiyeon when she first joined and then she moved into Eunjung and Soyeon's room later, but I don't know how relevant that is. I don't know, I just can't picture them fighting. I still think there is more to this than just rumors.

It is absolutely disgusting, especially considering that they really had to reach to tie this into T-ara's recent issues. If anything it just seems more of a way to keep people interested in the situation by grasping at straws. Johnny Noh (the owner of AKP) is a pr!ck who also just happens to be a 4nia, and part of me thinks he's taking some pleasure in possibly seeing T-ara get taken down a few notches so that his bias group can get some leverage (not that it'll help them).
Okay, I'm being a d!ck now, I need to stop lol.
Well, they've succeeded, big time. T-ara gave them the headline they've so desperately needed, that site's been going down for months since they went and utterly screwed up their forums. Most people defected to Hallyu8 and the majority of people left are idiotic pre-schoolers who have no business being near a computer in the first place.
Oh, trust me, I'm braced and ready to hear the worst. I just wish the man would hurry up and do the damn thing, I can't believe I still have to wait five hours and forty-five minutes to hear this mess.
And screw AKP, I cannot BELIEVE anybody's actually citing that pathetic excuse of a website as a source for anything. The only interesting reads were the Op-Eds done by TheProphetBlog as he's the only one with a modicum of writing talent, but beyond that their articles were about as dull and useless as Dara on stage when they were trying to be "good."

thanks! i feel so frustrated right now being the only t-ara fan in my group of friends i have no one to talk to >_<
i really hope its nothing bad.......i'll check everything out *breaths in breaths out*
I'm staying up all night just to see what CCM will be annoucing later!

You can check out Oniontaker's blog, he posted the translations on July 27, so go can backtrack through his blog until you see it (not his personal blog). It's labeled "T-ara Situation". You can also click his "#tara" tag to find it. Sorry, but I think I read somewhere I'm not allowed to post direct links here. He seems to be a good source of information regarding this whole situation.And remember that Allkpop has always been a landfill of lies and hate, and they attract many flies. They've been trying to pretend lately that they have class, but stuff like this shows otherwise. I would avoid them as a reliable source of information.

i found it extremely hillarious how their so called industry sources where actually comments from previous articles on that site

I agree one hundred percent, the netizens are the worst perpetrators in this situation right now, they're basically committing the exact same crime they've accused T-ara of. It's basically the Salem witch trials, T-ara-style right now, and right now the only one who's been absolved of any wrongdoing is Qri. Hwayoung, Jiyeon, Soyeon, Eunjung, Hyomin, Boram, and even Areum is receiving a good deal of hate right now, but none of it has approached bullying in my opinion. I could see how it might be construed that they were trying to convey the message that they weren't thrilled with Hwayoung about not performing at the Budokan, but how in the world does that get turned into "ZOMG, teh T-error gurlz be bulleyin' da Hwa!!!!1!!!111!"?

^No problem, and me too!
I agree. Avoid AKP like the plague as they have done nothing but post misinformation since this whole debacle started (they're even stooping so low as to question whether or not Hwayoung's wardrobe malfunction from earlier this year was actually INTENTIONAL).

The thing is that allkpop wants is to create drama, it is feeding on "fan-wars" and scandals so that people visit their site and write nasty comments.

You can check out Oniontaker's blog, he posted the translations on July 27, so go can backtrack through his blog until you see it (not his personal blog). It's labeled "T-ara Situation". You can also click his "#tara" tag to find it. Sorry, but I think I read somewhere I'm not allowed to post direct links here. He seems to be a good source of information regarding this whole situation.And remember that Allkpop has always been a landfill of lies and hate, and they attract many flies. They've been trying to pretend lately that they have class, but stuff like this shows otherwise. I would avoid them as a reliable source of information.

i just dont understand this bullying thing people have going for. there is not a single shread of evidence anywhere to support this. outcasting is a maybe. What is more pathetic are all these supposidley pure netizens who have the audacity to claim moral high ground rather than wait and watch to see what happens.

Okay, here we go...
On the 25th five of the girls made a series of tweets on Twitter after their performance at the Budokan. At first nobody paid any attention to them as the messages seemed to be fairly innocuous in tone and even seemed to be very encouraging. The messages were all basically going on about determination, selflessness, manners, and working hard.
Then Hwayoung tweeted a message saying that sometimes determination simply wasn't enough, and that there's a reason for everything that happens; that's when things started getting messy. Hyoyoung (Hwayoung's twin sister) jumped in, saying that she hurt for her sister and that Hwayoung should still be treated like a person, even if she was physically hurt. She went on to make another tweet about how being pretty on the outside has no value if you're not pretty on the inside as well. Then Tarae (Hwayoung's rapping coach) joined in, calling some unknown people "bitches" and remarking that they needed to remember that, at one point, they were nobodies as well. Both Hyoyoung's and Tarae's tweets are thought to be directed at one or more members of T-ara; Tarae went on to rescind his original tweets, claiming they were actually aimed at Nicki Minaj and Beyonce, oddly enough.
It's about at this point that netizens caught wind of the situation and the whole thing spread like wildfire online, with many speculating that the original tweets were T-ara's way of "bullying" Hwayoung and questioning her dedication to the group as she was unable to perform at the Budokan due to her injury. Soon people were putting together elaborate conspiracy theories that speculate that Hwayoung has ALWAYS been bullied by the other T-ara members, even going so far as to compile collections of gifs and pictures that show that Hwayoung has been neglected this whole time; some of these examples are really, REALLY reaching (they've also simultaneously chosen to ignore the pics and videos that show Hwayoung getting along fantastically with the members, but that's another story for another time). Furthermore, CCM has made the mess even worse by stating that the tweets were, in fact, insults, but they claimed that surely the girls wouldn't have made such hateful comments, so what do they do? They claim that five of the girl's Twitter accounts were simultaneously hacked. Highly unlikely.
So, since this situation has only become a million times worse, it's now been announced that KKS will make an official announcement regarding his stance on the issue on July 30th, 2012 at 1:00 P.M., Korean standard time (roughly 8 and a half hours from now). People are speculating that members will probably be kicked out, and at the very worst the group may be disbanded. It's gotten bad enough that people are calling for Hyomin, Eunjung, and Jiyeon's heads (especially the latter), and to a lesser extent, Soyeon and Boram's, who ultimately ended up deleting their tweets, and now there's a petition on Daum requesting that the group officially disband. Anti-fans and casual onlookers are just having the time of their lives watching all of this happen, and none of the comments are very pleasant to read at this point, so it's probably best to stay away from general K-Pop forums like AKP or H8 for the time being.
So now all we can do is wait to see what happens. In any case most people have thrown their support behind Hwayoung, while openly bashing the other girls without proper knowledge of what's truly happened. The whole ordeal just keeps getting messier and messier, and nobody is stepping up to clarify anything or take a stance. I've actually heard that now people are wondering if Hwayoung is as innocent as she's making herself out to be, so even she's starting to get a bit of negative attention for the role she's playing. Right now it's basically a jumble of rumors, theories, speculation, ambiguous, vague Tweets, hurt feelings, and people throwing the word "bully" around a bit too liberally. No doubt that there are problems in T-ara but I doubt that it's a case of bullying. It's a sad situation, to say the least.

I doubt it'll have anything to do with kicking any members out, which seems to be a rumor going around. Especially with all their success in Japan at the moment, I don't think CCM will risk anything that drastic. Still, I'm confused, if it's an apology for the tweets, wouldn't they have to retract their whole "hacked accounts" statement? I guess we'll see what happens.

I am not feeling good about all this issue. And if something wrong happen to T-ara...the only responsible to me is KKS. His decision to always change the group composition is the reason behind all this situation. I still remember his words saying he wanted to create competition among members...and I knew that it wouldn't be benefit for the group. Because how can you maintain good team spirit if you always have to compete against each other ?