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    itoko got a reaction from hyominheart in [12.07.30] SBS PD's controversial statement, "I won't reach out to T-ara in the future"   
    I think t-ara fans need to take a step back and breath and relax nothing we can do will really affect the outcome of the current issue all we can really do is support the group.
    I think in a couple days we'll see if this is just the vocal community up in arms about Hwayoung getting booted from the group or if its really the feeling of the community in general. Remember when Iphone had the grip of death issue all over the internet people were saying that they would never buy the iphone and it was the doom of apple yet that iphone went on to be one of their biggest seller.
    Remember all the people who are up in arms will be the people who feel wronged but it might be a very small percent of the fans but they just happen to be the most vocal. People who thought nothing of the issue won't go on the internet as say oh I don't care I am still going to support t-ara most of them will just continue with doing whatever they were doing.
    So please relax and don't keep saying the sky is falling cause as more people say it the more people think its true.
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    itoko got a reaction from maskingmark in [12.07.30] Kim Kwangsoo, "There is a possibility for Hwayoung to re-join.."   
    I agree with T-GGYouth in that in this situation we really won't ever know who is right and who is wrong you might find even if both sides told the truth you might find its a difference of views and both parties can be innocent and both parties could be at fault.
    My first opinion of the whole situation is that both sides are at fault in that I believe that Hwayoung was hurt and she couldn't perform but decided to try but in the end couldn't but that in turn made it burdensome for the 6-ara since they were given such short notice that they end up not performing up to there own standard and this in turn made the 6-ara members upset and they tweeted there disappointment in Hwayoung publicly. This lead to sh*tstorm that we have today.
    People who say that the 6-ara was bullying Hwayoung where is the proof? The only things that seem to float around is the cut of variety shows like the bowling alley, umbrella, rice cake, book in car and tweets but if you watch those incidents entirely you'll find there's nothing to them.
    I get the impression that 6-ara aren't as close to Hwayoung as each other but you have to remember also that Hwayoung never had to claw her way to the top she joined t-ara when they had become pretty famous and she was sharing in the profit so of course the other members never got close to her but not being close doesn't mean they are bullying her.
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    itoko got a reaction from AlxTsubasa in [12.07.30] SBS PD's controversial statement, "I won't reach out to T-ara in the future"   
    SBS PD is a Production Designer from the Korean tv channel SBS they are the people who run a show/drama/program.
    Remember this is just a PD from SBS and not the SBS Head of programming coming out and saying they won't cast t-ara members.
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    itoko got a reaction from babeyelmo in [12.07.30] SBS PD's controversial statement, "I won't reach out to T-ara in the future"   
    I think t-ara fans need to take a step back and breath and relax nothing we can do will really affect the outcome of the current issue all we can really do is support the group.
    I think in a couple days we'll see if this is just the vocal community up in arms about Hwayoung getting booted from the group or if its really the feeling of the community in general. Remember when Iphone had the grip of death issue all over the internet people were saying that they would never buy the iphone and it was the doom of apple yet that iphone went on to be one of their biggest seller.
    Remember all the people who are up in arms will be the people who feel wronged but it might be a very small percent of the fans but they just happen to be the most vocal. People who thought nothing of the issue won't go on the internet as say oh I don't care I am still going to support t-ara most of them will just continue with doing whatever they were doing.
    So please relax and don't keep saying the sky is falling cause as more people say it the more people think its true.
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    itoko reacted to T-GGYouth in [12.07.30] Kim Kwangsoo, "There is a possibility for Hwayoung to re-join.."   
    okay honestly this is getting too far.
    towards this case, though as shown the victim is Hwayoung, we're just outsiders and as fans/people who suddenly care about t-ara once this thing came up, we do NOT know anything about the truth.
    so let's see:
    If Hwayoung was really bullied by the other members
    Okay so assuming the other members are evil "bitches" like those people claim, I still don't get the whole story. tbh, who insults/bullies with 'fighting!' and '^^' lol. And besides, why would they want to publicize the fact they're bullying? It's the same as wanting to kill someone, and yet you go to the most crowded place of the country and using a loud speaker say "I'M GONNA KILL BLAHBLAHBLAH AT <TIME> AT <PLACE>." Like, just what in the world would they do that? At this point of time, they just came back, and their popularity is high, they are almost at the peak of their career. Why would they want to destroy this moment? Revealing that they bullied at this point of time just does NOT make sense at all.
    Also I remember from IY that Sunny said that Hyomin was actually introverted and that if you treat her nice she'll treat you nicely. So if she really treats Hwayoung this way, wouldn't there be a reason for it? like her changed dp said, "everything happens for a reason." Same for other members
    Hwayoung is the one in the wrong
    So now, assuming that Hwayoung did T-ara wrong. We all know that CCM has 'revealed Hwayoung's dark side'. I personally don't believe it. Maybe Hwayoung might have indeed done something to T-ara, but as for the 'throwing away her crutches and sitting on the floor, threatening to shout at the managers' part, if it was really done by her, wouldn't the fans and reporters have ' D: - ed' and the news would have been circulating all around the internet.
    Okay so to sum up, I personally think Hwayoung, 6-ara (minus Qri), KKS and the netizens are all at fault.
    Why Hwayoung? She could have cleared things up, but her tweets just made things worse. Doesn't this show that she doesn't really care for T-ara too.. but then again, maybe she was really hurt, so I guess she is like, pretty much not that much at fault? Unless she was the one who did T-ara wrong.
    Why 6-ara - Qri? Maybe they shouldn't have expressed their feelings on Twitter. Whatever they were referring to, they shouldn't post anything that might be incorrectly interpreted by people. Yes, what people post on Twitter is their own business, but as idols and with those netizens around, I'm afraid they can't. And they would be at fault if they really bully Hwayoung.
    Why KKS? Needless to say, KKS has poor planning. He can't handle things well. Taking two days to solve this can cause a lot of damage to T-ara. His sole money maker is able to just die because of this. Really pity T-ara for this. Not gonna elaborate on KKS, he simply sucks I would say. And kicking Hwayoung out then wanting Hwayoung to apologize then come back is just crap. Be it the kicking her out part or wanting her to apologize, even if she was at fault, this would just cause even more harm to T-ara.
    Okay lastly the netizens, this whole thing is blown out of proportion by them. Maybe nothing would have been wrong if not for them. and they are unreasonable, esp the one saying that hyomin accidentally/purposely hit hwayoung WHEN RIGHT IN THE VIDEO HYOMIN HUGGED HWAYOUNG AND SAID SORRY. and the one of boram breaking the umbrella, hmm interesting. she didn't smash the whole umbrella right...
    KKS is making like the staff members want Hwayoung to leave but the T-ara members want her to stay. IDK what's true now, everything is just so complicated and confusing. but now we know, his major announcements are always negative. Maybe if T-ara was under another company things would have been better. Or if they debuted with a graduation concept like After School.
    Nonetheless, as QUEEN'S, though it's kinda tough yet exciting to be one, we should support them. Whatever Hwayoung does, it doesn't change the fact she was from T-ara, and so we should support her in what she does. For the T-ara girls, we should support them too. I believe this might be their hardest time of their career, and they might be really hurt by the antis.
    Until we know exactly who's at fault, let's not take sides and support them all. Only if proven that <whoever> is at fault should we take sides. Let's just protect our girls.
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    itoko got a reaction from ericcmusica in [12.07.30] SBS PD's controversial statement, "I won't reach out to T-ara in the future"   
    Unless SBS decides to ban T-ara which I don't think they will since there really is no proof of bullying its up to each individual PD who runs the shows if the t-ara members who were once on running man gave the PD a good impression I believe he could and would still cast them..
    The thing is SBS has alot of PD's and this is just a tweet from one of them don't go into panic mode yet.
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    itoko got a reaction from molkang2x in [12.07.28] Core Contents Media's CEO to make a very big announcement regarding T-ara on the 30th   
    Consider me an idiot but apart from the netizens is there actually any proof that there's bullying going on? I read the tweets and it can be taken either as encouragement to themselves cause who in there right minds promote a song in two countries and do a concert at the same time, or they were aiming it Hwayoung but more in a way that's trying to get her to pull her weight but no where is there bullying going on in the tweets its just wishful thinking on the part of the netizens and once people hear it they all jump in saying its bullying.
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    itoko got a reaction from hyominheart in [12.07.28] Core Contents Media's CEO to make a very big announcement regarding T-ara on the 30th   
    Consider me an idiot but apart from the netizens is there actually any proof that there's bullying going on? I read the tweets and it can be taken either as encouragement to themselves cause who in there right minds promote a song in two countries and do a concert at the same time, or they were aiming it Hwayoung but more in a way that's trying to get her to pull her weight but no where is there bullying going on in the tweets its just wishful thinking on the part of the netizens and once people hear it they all jump in saying its bullying.
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    itoko got a reaction from hyominheart in [12.07.28] Core Contents Media's CEO to make a very big announcement regarding T-ara on the 30th   
    If you read the tweets translated by oniontaker the t-ara members tweet wasn't an issue or joke they were just talking. Only after you read Hwayoung tweet does the previous tweet's become an issue, regardless of if they were tweeting about her or not I think Hwayoung should've just kept silent and nothing would've happened.
    I'm not blaming Hwayoung but if your a public figure you should think before you post stuff because different people will read your words and think of a different meaning to the one you wrote.
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    itoko got a reaction from Farnaz in [12.07.28] Core Contents Media's CEO to make a very big announcement regarding T-ara on the 30th   
    If you read the tweets translated by oniontaker the t-ara members tweet wasn't an issue or joke they were just talking. Only after you read Hwayoung tweet does the previous tweet's become an issue, regardless of if they were tweeting about her or not I think Hwayoung should've just kept silent and nothing would've happened.
    I'm not blaming Hwayoung but if your a public figure you should think before you post stuff because different people will read your words and think of a different meaning to the one you wrote.
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    itoko got a reaction from molkang2x in [12.07.28] Core Contents Media's CEO to make a very big announcement regarding T-ara on the 30th   
    If you read the tweets translated by oniontaker the t-ara members tweet wasn't an issue or joke they were just talking. Only after you read Hwayoung tweet does the previous tweet's become an issue, regardless of if they were tweeting about her or not I think Hwayoung should've just kept silent and nothing would've happened.
    I'm not blaming Hwayoung but if your a public figure you should think before you post stuff because different people will read your words and think of a different meaning to the one you wrote.
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    itoko got a reaction from jknlet in [12.07.28] Core Contents Media's CEO to make a very big announcement regarding T-ara on the 30th   
    If you read the tweets translated by oniontaker the t-ara members tweet wasn't an issue or joke they were just talking. Only after you read Hwayoung tweet does the previous tweet's become an issue, regardless of if they were tweeting about her or not I think Hwayoung should've just kept silent and nothing would've happened.
    I'm not blaming Hwayoung but if your a public figure you should think before you post stuff because different people will read your words and think of a different meaning to the one you wrote.
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