cynt29

O__o
omg, this scandal like a drama lol
although she had apologized but damage has done. T-ara's image are broken now.
i can't think anymore. the only thing i know KKS is the one who ruins everything from the start. he ruins t-ara including hwayoung.
i believe of 6-ara's bond are so strong and i think it is so hard for them to accept addition after what they have done together in the past, they were fighting so hard to reach the top and they've had good times together. maybe hwayoung feel outcast because of that. i mean it's not easy to enter and become a part of a group that already have a strong bond.
i don't know with you guys but i think the incident in music show that hwa refused to join performance is true both from 6-ara and hwa side. i think because hwayoung didn't want to performance so 6-ara feel so dissapointed especially hyomin, from their photos i think hyomin and hwayoung are so close) that's why she tweeted first. after that 6-ara and hwa had a little argue, and finally hwa couldn't stand it and crying outside waiting room. i can tell this because when i have a fight with my sister, i've always go outside to release my anger and calm down. but it doesn't mean i am the right one because sometimes i am the wrong one and i need to calm down my anger. well sometimes if you have a tough heart, it's so hard for you to accept any advice lol. that's why i think hwayoung is still young and sometimes she can't manage her emotion well (just like jiyeon). i think she never expected the situation became really worse. i hope she and 6-ara can take a positive part from all this mess and i hope they will remain a good friend.
i can't believe all that bullying because the screencaps from the haters are so dull. i don't want to wasting my time to explained all of it. if you are a true queen's i think you will understand all of that about what's happening behind the screencaps. i'm really mad at the haters who even didn't know about T-ara and ex-queen's
btw, i don't know but i don't like that hyoyoung girl. it seems like she took advantage from 6-ara and hwa by posted twitter

It's funny. When twin apologized everyone said it was not an admittance of guilt, when it clearly was. EJ says sorry on her personal fan page, and y'all start saying she's admitting guilt, when she's really just telling her fans she's sorry they have to go through this with her. This is the problem with thinking you have intelligence when you are a teenager.

Your response sounds exactly like one of those antis from AKP.

Dani: what dafuq have i gotten myself into O_O
XD

No, I do not think any bullying occurred. Here are my reasons why...
The tweets that started this firestorm were made after the girls' performances at MuBank. If Hwayoung decided last minute not to perform, I could understand why the other members may have been upset, and why they may have questioned Hwayoung's determination. Does that make what they did right? Of course not, it was immature on their parts and they should have known better. Does that mean they were bullying her, though? No. The whole Twit conversation that took place looked more like they were venting their frustrations on the matter at worst, and trying to psych themselves up at best. I think Hwayoung probably misconstrued the tweets as being aimed at her, as did Hyouyoung, as did Tarae (Hwa's rapping coach). Remember, they don't live together anymore, so they probably don't correspond as much as they used to.
Furthemore, all of the alleged "proof" that has surfaced is nothing more than circumstantial evidence at best, taken from variety show appearances where, in some cases, the explanation is quite simple and quickly refutes that Hwayoung was the target of bullying from the other members. For instance, the video now making its rounds on the internet where the girls laugh at Hwayoung when she is chosen by a pedestrian in a contest can be refuted, as can Eunjung shoving the rice cake in Hwayoung's mouth, as can Boram allegedly destroying Hwa's umbrella, and Hyomin poking Hwayoung in the eye...the list could go on and on. I could explain a lot of this "proof" away, but doing so is another topic for another time.
To end this, I have no doubt that the group was having issues with each other, but the fact remains that nobody, not one of us, knows what those issues were. Furthermore, it does not mean that bullying took place, and quite frankly, I think that word has been thrown around entirely too liberally during this whole fiasco. Boram, Eunjung, Hyomin, Jiyeon, and Soyeon not liking something Hwayoung did =/= Hwayoung being bullied.
I could be very wrong, but I just can't find it in my heart to believe they would bully anyone. I think they were all irresponsible, immature, and God knows they're stressed out and probably get on each other's nerves like crazy at times, but no, I don't think they were harassing each other any more than people would when you're constantly in close proximity with someone for extended periods of time.

I'm especially curious too as to why people think that the bullying DID OCCUR. I don't know but even some of the longer fans seem to think that the bullying took place. I might be delusional and blind but please do enlighten me more on why did you think that there's bullying. Okay klee and grimlock who are longer fans than me just posted above me.
So I'm going to comment based on my perspective. Urgh it feels so hard to disagree with one of my favourite writers in this forum. First of all, sorry klee if I'll offend you with my post. I think I'm going to repeat myself again. You mentioned about looking at the 5 members of T-ara's tweets and also the tweets by Hwayoung, Hyoyoung, the coach and also the PDs. To be honest, when I looked at the tweets by T-ara, I seriously don't see any harm at all. Maybe they were pissed but did you consider all the stress that they had been through when Hwayoung was injured? I know it's not Hwayoung's fault to get injured but idols are human as well. You practised so freaking hard for a concert and then suddenly someone got injured, wouldn't you be stressed out that you need to practise all the formations again and also remember her parts? In Eunjung and Jiyeon's case, won't you ever think that if you are them, you'll go "Hey, I was injured, I forced myself to perform even if I was in pain and why is Hwayoung given a special treatment"? I know it's their responsibility to be understanding towards their group members but when you are tired, when you are stress and then something unfortunate happens, won't you be angry although you know that the injury is not Hwayoung's fault.
But irregardless of all these, all of them are at fault. (okay, I'm starting to judge them now) Hyomin shouldn't have tweeted and all of them (except Qri) shouldn't have replied her and Hwayoung and Hyoyoung shouldn't have bothered or got offended by the tweets cause again if you LOOK back at those tweets, they were either meant as a reminder, an advice or an encouragement (at least for me). Hwayoung by no means (or maybe she couldn't stand it anymore) got offended and started all the drama. I'm not trying to put all the blame on Hwayoung cause I don't deny the fact that she MIGHT be the victim. After the bullying rumours started, everybody started to shut up and stopped tweeting, Tom and Jerry deleted their tweets (suspicious huh?) while Hwayoung continued to make the drama worse. Was she planning to ruin T-ara at the first place since she knew that her time will soon be over? Judge it yourself.
Well, coming back to the issue of bullying again, of course bullying includes isolating and ignoring someone but I'm going to repeat myself again. Klee mentioned about "the sheer fact that we can observe 6Ara being less than comfortable/flat out awkward with Hwayoung tells A LOT." Isn't this perfectly normal? They are 6 friends who have been together all the time since debut. they faced all the stupid scandals together, they stayed together and performed together and they thought 6 was PERFECT but then one day POOF someone came in their group. They must be wondering why must they have an "extra" person when they are already a perfect combination and I believe that most of you previously thought that Hwayoung was a useless addition. If you thought that Hwayoung was a useless addition, how would you think the members themselves will feel? Of course, there will be a bit of jealousy, confusion and anger. And worst of all, you need to divide the hard-earned money that you have with another new member (especially EunJiMin). Then they try to "accept" her in the group but maybe they just can't click with her for some reasons thus resulting in the so call "isolating and ignoring" issue.
I am Ji stan and I do admit that she looks b!tchy at times and seem to have some attitude problems. But I don't blame her actually. Call me bias and delusional but I know in a group of girls, there will be cat fights, hair pulling and some b!tching going around. Trust me I am girl. What I want to say is I don't deny the fact that bullying MIGHT have taken place but for me, I still believe in them and if the bullying did take place, all of them did it for some reason that cannot be avoided. Again, call me delusional, bias, blind, ignorant whatsoever, I will never ever believe especially Soyeon will do such thing unless she admits it herself.
And one more thing. I don't believe in whatever nonsense that came out from KKS's mouth. I don't believe in that bullying case and neither do I believe that Hwayoung has princess-like attitude. This huge mess was just a misunderstanding by both parties and it was made worst by KKS whom I think has the intention of punishing them by breaking T-ara apart. I hope all of them will have the strong will to go against KKS and spill out the truth behind all these nonsense. I'll accept the truth even though it hurts. I just want the truth that's all.
PEACE.

T-ara fans
Hwayoung is added to T-ara: wtf no seriously what the xxxx this is ridiculous. Haven't there been enough lineup changes already? T-ara is fine as they are. CCM is ruining T-ara.
Later: Hwayoung is actually useless. Like actually useless. What the xxxx does she even do? What the xxxx is all that Konglish xxxx? Likey likeu dis? ugh awful. Hwayoung is ruining T-ara.
Two new members are added: T-ara should be seven just like it always has and forever it should be. 7-ara is perfect. It's a sisterhood of love. KKS is ruining T-ara.
Hwayoung leaves/is kicked out/whatever: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS IS THE WORST THING THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED TO T-ARA HOW COULD UNNIRS DO THIS TO FLAWLESS HWAYOUNG ALL SHE EVER DID WAS BE FLAWLESS IN YOUR PRESENCE YOU JEALOUS BITCHES WE'RE GONNA RUIN YR CAREERS F U T-ARA YOU'RE RUINING T-ARA

lol cutie rapper
i think dani's rap part will be like hwayoung's rap part in RP
well, that's fine then, i think it suits her voice better, beside dani is a cute girl and it suits her style
areum has a good voice, i hope next time CCM make a duet for soyeon and areum (soreum yo!)
and areum please don't rap, just leave it to eunminhwa plus T-ara cutie rapper, areum's rap in TTL japan live still make me cringe lol, i prefer her as a vocalist like soyeon, she has an awesome voice.
CCM, you have too much rappers in T-ara, how about next concept are hip hop song and full of rap ? (still can't get over with eunjimin's hip hop dance in japan concert )

jungie so beautiful *0*
my fave pictures are the first and the second. she looks so old school and feminine with that kind of hair
4 august please coming soonnnnn

1. you you you
2. ma boo
3. bye bye
i always love t-ara songs that full with rappers, well i love t-ara rappers though they aren't the best rappers in kpop but i think they are sooo goooodddd if you want to compare them with the others idol group rappers (but it doesn't mean CCM need to add more rappers, 3 rappers already enough, even too much). but i choose bye bye as my third fave because it's simply awesome, especially the high note part :wub: ahhh... i hope there's another one option, i want to choose falling u as the fourth of my fave song

i think hyomin or soyeon will be the representative of T-ara.
actually i want boram or qri since they are improved lately, i can't wait to see this performances.
btw, i never heard "summer girls" before, is that a really good song?

poor jiyeonna, it seems like her injury really bad this time i hope next time she will join another episode in RM.
now i'm so excited to see eunjung in RM, she is a funny person and i can't wait to see this new episode :wub:

Oh my god... It's obvious Soyeon was suffering while singing high notes I Hope our Sweet leader get well soon...
their Day By Day performance was improved from yesterday... t-ara fighting!!!
why Eunjung's lines become less & less??? At their first album she had both singing & rapping parts but now she barely get both!!! I'm really unhappy with this.
why CCM can't manage to give all members equal lines! they don't use girls talents??? All of them have good voices, but ...
Boram & Qri don't get more than 2 lines, Eunjung is joining them! If adding new members cause the others to don't get lines to sing I really don't ship it

good performances. especially when i know qri and boram had more parts i love them.
i prefer Don't Leave than DBD, is such a beautiful song
the only thing i don't like is why eunjung got so few lines in every comeback? it seems like now CCM push her to the back and only use her as the another face/visual just like jiyeon. she is so talented in singing + rapping and CCM keep eliminating her existence in every new songs. CCM even add 2 new rappers (one of them is a good singer too), i thought at first if the two new members are good in singing so maybe eunjung still get rap part, but i lose my hope because i remember since in JTW album until this time hwayoung got all the rap parts, so there is nothing left for eunjung. tbh sometimes i prefer eunjung to not appear in the song MV rather than she lost a lot of singing or rapping parts. well i just don't want people think she is only famous as a good actress and not recognize her talent in music .
well, i don't want this disappointments ruin my whole day (but in fact it have ruined my whole day ) i'm happy jiyeon can join the other members in DBD, although i miss her hot blonde, but i think she is more gorgeous with that dark straight hair and all the members are awesome too, i can't wait for their next comeback stage

wow it's a good news
i love to see jiyeon in variety show especially running man
i hope next time running man will invite another T-ara members

1. eunjung
2. eunjung
3. eunjung (the only reason why i love t-ara and want to know some things about kpop ( actualy i am not a kpop fan, i usually like anime song hahahaha yeah anime), but after heard her vocal specifically when she is doing rap, so HOT!!! not just that, her cuteness, sexy and maturity expecially in IGCBOY has capture my heart completely
4. soyeon/hyomin (i love soyeon when she still had her red long curly hair in TTL, and hyomin in WAYBLT live peformance with her shoulder-length hair, so cuteeee....)
5. hwayoung/ (after saw hwayoung performance, i thought hwayoung had more charisma rather than jiyeon, but this is just my opinion, no offense maybe because i love woman rapper)
6. jiyeon (her cuteness is undeniable)
7. boram & qri (sometimes i even forget where they are, like blend with the background, sorry for qri and boram fans)

so the conclusion from what i read here is KKS just add a random cutie little girl with have no talent or interest in singing or acting,
if she doesn't have talents, just make her as a rapper and she will become talented. case closed. i don't know it's so easy to be a rapper and to be called a talented person. i think i can be rapper too lol
wth KKS !!! T-ara are fulled with awesome rappers and what's the point to add more rapper when your rappers are already great and perfect??!!! i mean i never find an idol group in kpop with almost half of the members can rap and their rap are fine ! look at the awesomeness of eunjung's x hwayoung's x hyomin's combo rap, Boram's and soyeon's fine rap ! I just hear their TTL Japan and it's totally daebakkk!!! i don't want my favourite rappers will be replaced with some random new rapper !
at first i thought when KKS said those two new members will be singing as vocalists, i think i still can accept her, because she can help our three main singers a.k.a soyeon, eunjung and hyomin. eunjung are perfect in power but we can't deny sometimes she can't control her voice and hyomin's voice is good but quite ordinary. but damn i should not believe KKS's words that much. He such a big liar.
btw, i hope the articles will stop to write about "midas touch" and "30 years experience" thingy... i'm sick hearing of it in every articles. i understand he had a midas touch and had a lot of experiences. but it was... i only care about what he has done in these new days, not his old days. his 30 years experiences will be wasted if he doesn't know how to appreciate someone's hardwork and dedication, just like what he did to T-ara.

err... okay she is pretty but the age gap between T-ara members..... seriously.... boram and qri will look like ahjumma
i don't want to underestimate her just because of her young age (there's a lot of young people have done amazing things) but i think her age makes her not suited in T-ara. i can't imagine she will do some sexy poses....
i'm scared this plan was made by CCM to change T-ara into "graduation" system just like After School and japanese idols group or to remove Boram and Qri with slowly but sure.

err... okay she is pretty but the age gap between T-ara members..... seriously.... boram and qri will look like ahjumma
i don't want to underestimate her just because of her young age (there's a lot of young people have done amazing things) but i think her age makes her not suited in T-ara. i can't imagine she will do some sexy poses....
i'm scared this plan was made by CCM to change T-ara into "graduation" system just like After School and japanese idols group or to remove Boram and Qri with slowly but sure.

she is so beautifullll !!!!
eunjung always gorgeousss

LOL read it carefully.
he/she means "eunjung with the high note" not hwayoung.
Hwayoung and hyomin get the rapping part

lol, you are so funny. i know about the five members but jiwon and jiae were out from t-ara by their own personal matter before t-ara official debut, "good person" is not their official debut song, it's "lies" when CCM add soyeon, qri, and boram,. so i am not consider jiwon and jiae as the truthfully original members

i'm agree with you. although i'm a fan of T-ara in the mid last year when they already added hwayoung, but when i read their history, i think CCM didn't do justice for the original members, i mean the six original members. i believe too if people can get used with hwayoung, so it is with the 2 new members. just let time speaks.
the funny thing is now people consider hwayoung as the original member and believe T7 are the original. i believe next year people will consider T9 as the original T-ara..... it's pathetic

i'm agree with you. although i'm a fan of T-ara in the mid last year when they already added hwayoung, but when i read their history, i think CCM didn't do justice for the original members, i mean the six original members. i believe too if people can get used with hwayoung, so it is with the 2 new members. just let time speaks.
the funny thing is now people consider hwayoung as the original member and believe T7 are the original. i believe next year people will consider T9 as the original T-ara..... it's pathetic

so it's that CCM artists album? i always like CCM's songs especially their ballads even though i haven't heard all of them lol
i wonder why CCM didn't release the full song of "round and round"