Rafielle

I just saw on Youtube regarding the incident in Vietnam. T-ara were surrounded by fans who wanted to get pictures together with the members, and there was no order >.< , lots of fans just jumped to the stage. I hope T-ara will have better promoter next time.

[12.11.27] Fancam - Vietnamese fans rush to T-ara onstage







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Credit: YBAwesome @ YouTube
It is really great that Vietnam fans love T-ara, but isn't this just too much? I think this happened just after the Vietnam Volunteering event (posted by Robe_881 on Nov 26). Just hope the girls will remember this as an anecdotal story and not a shocking experience.

Having her in it would just speculate rumours of her possibly coming back... Since she isn't with T-ara anymore, so why would they keep photos of her in this pictorial album? It's not that they want her to be forgotten, they just can't have anymore hate from anti's

you know what? this is horrible... this is like exactly what happened to SNSD during the "Black Ocean" where everyone but SONE's turned their glowsticks off and started cheering Wonder Girls during SNSDs performance. But look at SNSD now, they're at the top of Kpop and im sure this will only prove to make T-ara even better and stronger as it did with SNSD.

From what I've read on various sites, some people feel that it is inappropriate for children to be performing to a song called "Sexy Love", even though "Little T-ara" is only performing the opening 35 seconds which is supposed to be the robotic dance (I guess it's more of the association with the song as far as it's lyrics and title rather than the dance moves they'll be performing themselves). Also, I've heard mention that M! Countdown has a +15 television rating so they feel that having underaged children on a show that's targeted towards people 15 and older is also not appropriate. Many people were also saying that they were using the children as a buffer so they wouldn't get booed or receive bad treatment from the audience since there are still a large number of people who still haven't forgiven them after the issuance of the apology. But to be honest, most of negative backlash and criticism stems from people still believing in the allegations of bullying and not forgiving them. A lot of people felt negatively about their apology being issued right before they announced their comeback so their sincerity has been questioned even before this announcement which is another contributant to some people's feelings towards this situation. In my opinion, everyone needs to just move forward. For those who don't support T-ara and don't forgive them, they need to focus their time and energy on things they do like and for those who support T-ara, they should be able to enjoy their comeback without the drama that arises with every move they make.

But regardless of who went to the site, it still shows that there are people interested in them. Love and Hate is better than no attention because that's when we'll see less of them. Even when the haters come by, they are exposed to the song and it brings along this type of publicity. I think they are ridiculous but they are helping to create more exposure for T-ara. In America, there is a saying, "There is no such thing as bad publicity." ,and I am truly hoping that this whole incident will fade like all things as we focus more on the work the girls produce. Better yet, this has brought on more new fans to help them reach an even higher status in Korea and internationally. The number of haters will fade as it started from baseless rumors anyway, there will still always be haters but the numbers will dwindle and in turn, the exposure has created more awareness about them and their music.

is it just me but Jiyeon's piercing eyes is so scary,, she's like saying "f*ck you all haters, if you want a b*tch then i'll give you one".. LOL

okay, budokan concert... whatever, i will still watch this!!! This concert is due to their hard works ^__^
if that "determination" word is the start of this false controversy, then that "determination" will be the key for them to successfully stand up again
so continue to fight T-ara!!! ♥

We should look on the bright side; it wouldn't go over well with the public if the clip was released with Jiyeon and Eunjung recording happily and joking around. At least this way, there won't be even more backlash - and when they are aired, they can repair their images first by clarifying on the issue.
...optimism I almost want to puke from the rainbows.

I just paid attention to K-pop in recent years only, so all of these blows towards T-ara made me realize how low K-entertainment can go...

I just paid attention to K-pop in recent years only, so all of these blows towards T-ara made me realize how low K-entertainment can go...

"To restore Eunjung's reputation, we will advocate her rights!"





Regarding Tara Eunjung's receiving of an unilateral notice of termination from the drama production company, the Korean Entertainment Management Association (KEMA) has expressed its position.
The KEMA on the 23rd published to the media an article titled "Opinion on the Unreasonable Unilateral Breach of TV Drama Contract"
According to this article, for the success of Five Fingers, Eunjung had given up her other schedules, including overseas activities, showing her sincerity to fully participate in the drama production, but the production team of "Five Fingers" on the 21st, requested with no legitimate reason, that Eunjung leave the drama on her own accord, mentioning that if she did not comply with the request, they would put pressure on Eunjung and her agency.
Eunjung's side did not understand this, and requested for a reason for withdrawal, but the production team only referred to the modification clause of the contract stating that the situation was not in the best interests of the drama production.
The KEMA stated "If it is necessary to change the cast during drama production, it should be be discussed with the actor under the premise of mutual understanding and negotiation, but the production team and SBS on the 22nd did not relate any information to Eunjung about her withdrawal, but announced her termination through the media"
It also stated "Through various evidence and proof, this association has verified and is shocked by this oppressive act of the production team."
The KEMA said "This association works to improve the practices of drama production and to develop a healthy industry by eradicating old practices. Therefore, from a few years ago, starting with the problems of unpaid acting fees, this association has worked to improve such unreasonable contracts and practices." "Such efforts can been seen in the 'Drama Production Standard Acting Contract' project developed along with the Ministry of Culture, Sports, and Tourism.
KEMA's article concluded by stating "We will advocate for Ham Eunjung's rights to restore her reputation as she has been unreasonably harmed as described above. To ensure that all relevant parties in this incident will not be harmed, we anticipate a reasonable solution from the drama production team."
English translations by @kclalala via Chinese translations by Ham Eunjung Baidu (@hameunjungbar)
Original source: http://sports.chosun...ceDate=20120823

The Thousandth Man PD's Twitter Translation [23082012]
hyotheleader:


To drama producers, issues of production sponsorship, PPL etc are no doubt important, but to tamper with the drama’s plan for these issues is not the way. A production that succeeds relying on despicable things, is very muddled. Although the production sponsorship for The Thousandth Man is zero ㅠ I will not give up. Money is something that you will have when you work harder.
ENG TRANS by (@kckclalala) via Chinese trans by @hameunjungbar

T-ara controversy for the first time was given in an opened discussion on Echannel aired on 23/08. With the participation of 14 journalists from different sections as: sport, ent, economy….. All of them have agreed that it was not T-ara fault but netizens. They gave their POV that netizens have destroyed T-ara image and called this is a “step back” of Hallyu wave
Cr: t-aravn.net

In soompi there's an article titled;
“Bridal Mask” Production Team Not Happy With Jin Se Yeon’s Decision To Join “Five Fingers”:
"In the middle of the shocking decision to choose currently airing KBS Wednesday-Thursday drama “Bridal Mask” female lead Jin Se Yeon, who is still shooting for the drama, over T-ara member Eunjung for the female lead role in drama “Five Fingers,” it has come out that KBS is not happy with such a decision and cannot understand such a decision.
On August 23, “Bridal Mask” drama producer Lee Geon Jun said that, “It is ridiculous and unheard of for a mini-series drama female lead, while the drama is still broadcasting, to be splitting her time appearing in another drama.”
The “Bridal Mask” drama production’s concern is that as the two dramas’ shooting schedules overlap, at a critical point in shooting, the busy drama “Bridal Mask” might suffer some harm."
Having two drama shooting at once in Korea seems a handful, I don't want to see this as apersonal greed in Se Yeon, but I guess Se Yeon's agency is an ambitious one. I hope this new star won't become another victim of K-entertainment like our Eunjung >.<.

I just paid attention to K-pop in recent years only, so all of these blows towards T-ara made me realize how low K-entertainment can go...

I just paid attention to K-pop in recent years only, so all of these blows towards T-ara made me realize how low K-entertainment can go...

A Chinese fan’s thoughts about Eunjung and Five Fingers…
From Ham Eunjung Baidu, written by 总攻后宫数不尽
Link: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1811121205
English Translations by @kckclalala
Things have already happened for almost a month..in these days, almost everyday, there have been bad news and unfavourable reports, but regardless of other people’s abusive words, all the pain, all of their misbeliefs, we still chose to believe that the sky will be bright again, that things will eventually pass…as long as we can overcome this once more. But right now, I am starting to feel lost, the damage has already been done, can you really return to the Ham Eunjung of the past, the one who loved to smile?
“Firstly, I believe that there are many who anticipate Five Fingers, so to avoid anymore negative influence, I will, with my greatest strength, try my hardest. Regardless of whatever drama, I will work differently from other people [and work to my greatest ability]. For all the sunbaenims and writers here, whether actors or celebrities, I will work with a careful and cautious state of mind; work hard and then strive and fight for everyone’s satisfaction. I hope everyone will anticipate this greatly.” Oh, how ironic these words are. A few days ago, this child faced enormous pressure and attended Five Fingers’ press conference, regardless of how nervous or how difficult it was, she used her greatest effort to hold back her own emotions, just to help promote the drama and to not bring any more inconvenience to the cast and crew…Yesterday, she was still practicing piano and her lines for shooting. Filming had not even started, and she had already given so much, but for all her efforts and hard work, what did she get in return? Just only a damned phrase “dropped from the drama”?
This world, how unfair it is.
Ham Eunjung ah, what did you actually do wrong? Why do you have to suffer so much? Just because of an edited video clip, just because netizens and reporters have blown the “bullying incident” out of proportion, just because you have an incompetent president, just because of your one sentence, one action…and everyone is now destroying little by little, your many years of hard work, the achievements that you’ve made out from your years of hard work…As expected, there is no fairness in this world.
I rather that you had asked her to leave the drama when everything first happened, instead of giving her hope and expectations before kicking her to the bottom of the valley. After using her, then abandoning her, ha, you really know how to add insult to injury. Yesterday there was still news of Eunjung to paticipate in her first filming today, but today you made her leave the drama. Korean dramas use a live shooting system, and you’ve already aired two episodes. Eunjung was supposed to join from the fifth, so this means that the fifth episode has not yet been filmed, and yet you air two episodes per week. Which is to say that the replacement actress has less than two weeks to study the script and to film. I don’t believe producers would take such a big risk, when nothing has been confirmed yet…the T-ara incident was not a recent piece of news from the past two days. Advertisers, producers, and even SBS…everyone had already known about it. When the issue was debated most hotly and vigorously, you said that you will not replace her, but when things are finally settling a bit, you say that you are replacing her? Do you people all like to play spontaneous games? Because today I feel that you will not bring me negative press, I will support you. Because today I feel that you will bring me negative press, I do not want you anymore. Maybe tomorrow because you can’t find an appropriate replacement, so you will want her back again? To step on someone who’s already fallen, how scary is human nature? Really I don’t lose anything from not watching your drama as I was only following Five Fingers from the beginning because of Eunjung anyway. Now that I’m not following it, I can even spend my time better, read some novels and do more of the other things I want to do…Thinking about it, this may even be a good thing for me. But what about for Eunjung?
Do you not have a bit of heart? If you had used her when she was popular, I don’t blame you, but using her when she was already down, using her to create more press coverage, I really can’t stand it…When I see all these news about her, images of her crying always float into my mind. To suffer so many blows one after another, even the strongest person would break down, and in any case Ham Eunjung is not as strong as she looks…To what extent do you want to push them till…? They’ve lost their popularity, they’ve lost their endorsements, and now Eunjung has lost her drama as well. You must all be satisfied, right? Happy, right? Then can you let up on my T-ara, let up on my Eunjung now?
Really, now I do not have any extravagant hopes. As long as you are well, as long as you can be like a normal person and eat well, sleep well…then we fans are happy and satisfied.
If you have never accompanied your idol during his or her most difficult times, you will not understand how I feel.
If you have never truly liked a celebrity, then it is more likely you will not understand how I feel.
A person can change a lot because of love, he or she can change for the better or for the worst. And Ham Eunjung, because I love you, I have become more understanding of the ways of the world. The way I perceive things have become more mature as well. Because of you, I have learned to be a filial daughter…Really, you’ve taught me a lot, so Ham Eunjung, to be able to meet you, like you, and love you, it really is my blessing and the happiest thing in my life.
Lastly, I hope with all my heart that you can comeback with a smile. No matter how long we have to wait, as long as you don’t give up, we will be by your side, even if we become bruised black and blue, we will not retreat. We only hope that we can stand behind you and be your strongest support and backing.
I want to say, Ham Eunjung, I love you. Not too much and not too little, but just a lifetime’s worth of love.

Just remember, who's making the call to still do jack squat nothing with all these goings-on... But seriously, if ever there was a time for the girls to defy that man, it'd be now. Even if it were messy, emotional and inarticulate, I'd feel like it were... a response fitting to the situation. I get the feeling it wouldn't be met well by the Korean public, so I hope that they can manage a composed response, but hey.
And yeah...
Backbone, that element lacking in those responsible for Eunjung's sacking. Or, I guess, maybe worse, they're really just creating a situation where their originally intended actions would be more palatable to the public eye. Like what Pilot did, for those of you who know that part of the bible.
But man, this is why Mr. Kim is a stain on the prestige of the kpop industry. Yeah, they (Koreans) deal with things in some ways that I (and others) disagree with. Yeah, it's not all fantasy land magic with kisses and rainbows. Yeah, it's not everything it presents itself to be. But, Kpop is a legitimate entertainment option, and one of its main draws was, really, that they could do those entertainment things without having the same hangups as the American entertainment industry. Not to give too much sway to like, stereotypes, but Kpop is making it in the Arab world. And I've read, blogs and stuff from Americans, that the thing about Kpop is that it isn't rife with the same cynical, jaded viewpoints we get all the time in America (even in our mf-ing children's movies, for foss sake), and that America is exporting to the rest of the world, all the f-ing time. And that is still true - Koreans care about different things than Americans do, they deal with things in a different way, all those little things that are different across cultures, but they could still produce a polished, purchasable, and (generally) positive product.
And again, even if backstage, things aren't like on the stage, you take that as a given (once you figure that stuff out) - you still like it, it's still fun, you still listen to it and watch it and talk about it. But can you imagine this situation being as bad as it is if any other company were involved? I mean, arguably we wouldn't even have any kind of crisis as we're having, because other companies wouldn't have given the rumor mill a free hand for five days and then decided to fire the very person that everyone in the public was siding with, and they wouldn't have built a reputation such that people were willing to speculate that you orchestrated a car accident involving four people aside from one of your stars just to gain sympathy, and they wouldn't just sit on their hands after gaining the personal satisfaction of getting your "rebel" star to apologize to you in private. Not only is his company losing money, not only is T-ara having all the problems they're having, but all of Korea is looking jacked right now to the casual observer, not just the Kpop world - and right when it's building momentum across the world.
I mean, if I were a fan on a website talking about American stuff, I would sound like I hated the USA - there's just that much to complain about, seeing things from the inside (and I'm sure people around the world have their complaints too) - okay, maybe I wouldn't, discretion and all, but if I were to complain about American stuff... But kpop is relatively new to the international stage, and aside from people's opinions about Koreans and Asians in general, they just don't need another reason to look down on it. And yet here we have all this.
Mr. Kim may not have created Korean society, he may not have dictated everything about this situation, but he sure as s did his durndest to make things as ridiculous as they've gotten - starting with just being so easy to hate.
But luckily, something distracted me before I bored you even more.
Just because I just saw it, if you're gonna talk about "idols," I mean, what exactly did T-ara do that was so unworthy? Hwayoung, for not not going on stage, or for tweeting about feeling like she was alone in an argument? The other girls, for tweeting words of encouragement that were twisted around to look like mockery? I only take my trash out in the middle of the night - does that make me guilty of making someone think I have something in my trash that I want to keep hidden?
See? This is why I stopped coming here back in April. I just keep going.
Man, before then, I was happy answering questions like "do you like Hyomin with glasses or without?"

This is really idiotic. If you don't want to put them in, then just do it. You're going to remove them anyway.
It's like they're asking people first as if they feel sympathy for the girls, which they aren't. They're just manipulating the situation to their favors. And that's even more worse for me.
I agreed. As long as the situation isn't officially cleared, these kinds of people (like FF production team) will take advantage of T-ara. I don't want to see them with a broken heart like the incident that happened to Eunjung. They can take one incident, but can they take another ? Sooner or later one of the girls with have a mental breakdown from all these mess and it'll be too late to fix everything.

I just paid attention to K-pop in recent years only, so all of these blows towards T-ara made me realize how low K-entertainment can go...

I just paid attention to K-pop in recent years only, so all of these blows towards T-ara made me realize how low K-entertainment can go...

I admired SBS back then as to how they accepted Joo Ji Hoon despite him being blacklisted in other networks due to his drug case. I also admired SBS back then as to how they said they will keep Eunjung despite the bullying rumors. They could have rejected her when the T-ara controversy heated up, but they didn't. I was also happy that Eunjung's co-actors in the drama accepted her and encouraged her...
Then they allowed her to attend the press conference. She tried her best to be professional by smiling her best even though she is still obviously hurting. She smiled and laughed too sometimes during the event, as she tried to escape her pain and look forward to the drama. Eunjung's fans supported her in that event, with all the rice wreaths, etc. Now that ratings are high, and Eunjung is already rehearsing her scenes and her piano skills, they met an actress behind her back and replaced her arbitrarily, unilaterally, unfairly.
Those sponsors, ugh!
So SBS, Five Fingers production team, etc eventually gave in to the demands of those sponsors and anti-fans.
Cowardice. Scared of anti-fans, never cared for the actual fans.
They feared that Eunjung's appearance will give them losses? Wrong. They lost Eunjung too and the fans behind her.
They used her T-ara publicity, made her a fool by letting her practice for nothing, stabbed her in the back, abandoned her and crushed her pride like that.
Poor Eunjung, so defeated, so helpless, she had no choice but to accept their decision.
How can they treat their lead actress like this?
I posted so many good things about the drama. I even said this drama is nice because of the music story regardless of who the actors are. I am very sorry. I take my words back. Somehow I already got myself so invested in this drama with Eunjung in it. And I can't seem to see Hong Da Mi played by anyone else other than Eunjung. Perhaps out of my love for music and piano I will watch the drama in the future...perhaps next year or I don't know, time will heal these wounds. But for now, I can't seem to watch it knowing that Eunjung was betrayed this way.
Replacing her is probably not a problem with me if they did it before the press conference and they ride on the heat of the controversy a few weeks ago, but knowing how much Eunjung wanted this role, how she supposedly gave up WGM for this and how much she worked hard for this and she already attended the press conference... this unfair manner of replacement... ugh! I guess I will have to say pass... for now.
Dear May Queen, I am presuming that you treat your actors well unlike others... so I wish you the best in the ratings game in the Sat-Sun 9:50pm timeslot.
Eunjung, be strong. This too shall pass. There's no way but up!!! Fighting!!!
I hope the T-ara comeback single Sexy Love won't be jeopardized like this too. T-ara Fighting!!!

Are you kidding me? You are acting like some netizens who have been brainwashed by the rumor plague that wiped the Net. It's not too late to jump off the bandwagon of cyber bullying.

I'm confused ... so this is SBS's decision or something and not an agreement ? Or is it another rumor ?
If you're here just to troll, then leave. I can take BS from other places but not here.
Eunjung don't have enough determination ? Are you kidding me ?
DO I HAVE TO POINT OUT HOW MANY PERFORMANCES SHE WENT ON STAGE WHILE GETTING INJURED?
Last year she took shots just to get on the goodbye stage for YaYaYa. Early this year she stayed on stage in Lovey Dovey performances until she can't put up with her injuries anymore.
Her determination is second to none and everyone knows it. To be saying things like this mean you don't know them at all.