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    nothingtosay reacted to nathaniel in [13.01.01] Hyomin, "Forever sorry to our fans... Deeply thought about how to express myself"   
    [13.01.01] Hyomin, "Forever sorry to our fans... Deeply thought about how to express myself"

    Hyomin, "Forever sorry to our fans... Deeply thought about how to express it"
    T-ara's Hyomin has transformed into a tomboy for a dreamy winter pictorial.
    With falling snowflakes surrounding her, Hyomin poses in a dreamlike setting for a pictorial in the fashion magazine InStyle January edition. In the pictorial, Hyomin displays her romantic and glamorous style with various patterns of clothing, neutral themed pants and lovely accessories.
    An official from InStyle magazine praised Hyomin saying, "Hyomin did remarkably well presenting a dreamlike and alluring appearance in her photoshoot."
    In an interview, Hyomin revealed her thoughts and said, "I realize and feel how valuable the position I have is now. Looking back, beside me and in front of me was always family and friends who helped me step by step progress towards growing and reaching a more mature appearance.
    Hyomin also revealed how grateful she is for her fans and found a way to express her true sincerity in her feelings. The warm interview can be found in the January issue of InStyle magazine.
    ***
    Source: http://news.nate.com/view/20130102n11769
    Translated by: Nathaniel @ Diadem
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    nothingtosay reacted to iAmEd in [12.12.20] Alcohol NO! Gambling OK? T-ara embroiled in new controversy in Japan   
    "Hallyu actors and KARA have also done advertisements for pachinko machines"
    And if they jumped off a cliff would you make T-ara do so as well?
    CCM really knows how to annoy people.
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    nothingtosay reacted to arcadey in [12.10.24] Director Cha EunTaek speaks about T-ara & Eunjung   
    This is amazing! He really spoke the TRUTH. I can't believe AllKPop did not post this... They only post negative things about T-ara. I'm only allowed to write reviews on AKP or else I would have posted this,
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    nothingtosay reacted to @Eunjung4eva in [12.10.24] Director Cha EunTaek speaks about T-ara & Eunjung   
    A heartful of respect to Director Cha Euntaek!! This human(me) salutes you with respect not as fan of T-ara but as a human who really admire you mature and positive thoughts!! Not all people can gamble their career and DARE to speak like you!! A 90 degree blow from me!!
    Grand salute to you and Proud to be a Queen's!! Just glad to see that many people(kpop staffs) are supporting My Princess and T-ara!!

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    nothingtosay reacted to ZZuRRa in [12.10.24] Director Cha EunTaek speaks about T-ara & Eunjung   
    "To see how the public, without understanding the circumstances, became so sure that there must have been bullying between them. I don't understand, there have been incidents in the past that were much worse, idols who have done illegal things, but why only treat T-ara with such harshness?"
    "Although we should criticise acts that are wrong, but to see people carelessly criticise and condemn acts that are right simply because of their own subjectivity and bias, I really could not carrying on living pretending that I did not see this in our society."
    Aah,I simply love these quotes.I hate it when T-ara's scandal were never confirmed but received hatred from almost all citizens in Korea (another example is Tablo) while some who involved in scandals that are far more serious can easily get away with that (but of course,it's not 100% true).
    Although more than half of Korean citizens and KPOP fans still haven't forgive T-ara,I'm glad to see that these people (e.g: him and Hyomin's 1000th Man PD) still support T-ara through highs and lows.They know that even though they will get a lot of bashing for backing them up,they're not afraid to do so and I respect them for doing that.
    We,QUEEN'S,just want to say thank you for still supporting our girls.I'm sure they really appreciate that.
    "After Eunjung was forced out of I had once worried that she would do something stupid."
    Whoa,that line scares me....Luckily she didn't.
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    nothingtosay reacted to kkyc222 in [12.10.24] Director Cha EunTaek speaks about T-ara & Eunjung   
    [12.10.08] Director Cha Euntaek talks about T-ara & Eunjung in an interview with News 2 Day






    "The T-ara incident made me detest even more the way Korean society does not tell right from wrong"
    Reporter: Recently, you've supported Eunjung through twitter and this became a hot topic. You didn't expect that right? What are your thoughts about the T-ara incident?
    In response to the question that the reporter asked mindfully, Director Cha Euntaek surprisingly gave a calm and sharp response. Because of his message of support to Eunjung, Director Cha was also criticised by some netizens. Director Cha was the director for T-ara's MV's like Lovey Dovey, and so have known Eunjung for a long time. He understands Eunjung more than anybody else and truly feels sad and worried about Eunjung.
    "Although my message wasn't left simply without thought nor was it left simply just to cheer her on, it still represented my worry and care for her. When she knew that she was casted for "Five Fingers", you wouldn't know how happy she was and how hard she worked in preparation. If I was a member of T-ara, I might have hidden away somewhere because of the pain. T-ara being ostracised by the public, this has made me really detest Korean society. I really detest those who, after someone's mistake, add insult to injury without first determining right from wrong. To be honest, I thought "Should I gamble my career in the entertainment industry and just say it all [and argue]? Just say it all on twitter?" I was really angry at the time."
    "I've watched them grow since the T-ara members were still trainees. They are kids who have worked hard to become singers, and I was really hurt to see them criticised like that. Eunjung's message on twitter was actually really simple and pure. They cannot go out and play like other teenagers, but have to practise with all their might, running around to complete their activities. They cannot live like other kids of the same age, but are constrained by their work. They are kids who are more simple and pure than others of their age."
    "At the time, I was really very upset. To see how the public, without understanding the circumstances, became so sure that there must have been bullying between them. I don't understand, there have been incidents in the past that were much worse, idols who have done illegal things, but why only treat T-ara with such harshness?"
    About how his message of support for Eunjung caused a stir amongst netizens, Director Cha said: "Although we should criticise acts that are wrong, but to see people carelessly criticise and condemn acts that are right simply because of their own subjectivity and bias, I really could not carrying on living pretending that I did not see this in our society."
    "Eunjung ah, you have to live with strength"
    "I always talk with Eunjung, and she told me 'Because of Director-nim, I've gained a lot of strength." She cannot clarify everything that has happened, simply for the reason that they are all very close. In reality, their relationship is not what outsiders have portrayed it to be like, and they do not want each other to be criticised or blamed because of themselves. Because of this incident, they really cried a lot. I really can't bear to see them cry like that. I tried to find ways to comfort them, but I couldn't come up with any good ways but to say to them to live with strength. After Eunjung was forced out of "Five Fingers" I had once worried that she would do something stupid."
    English translation from Chinese translation by Woojung Baidu:http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1941485235
    Original Korean article: http://www.news2day....7a101c71aa3280d
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    nothingtosay reacted to Scatter_88mil in [12.10.20] Video - T-ara Confession   
    Aite guys and girls, I just went through the whole vid (robbe_881 - thank you very much for providing the HD version ) and while I can't provide a full translation due to the length of the footage, I'll describe this out as best as I can (for those asking, I'm Korean here so the language is no barrier to me at all, though the music background could have been lower in audio so I may have not heard everything correctly - or maybe my speakers are just...well, ah whatever).
    I really must say, I'm terribly sad to tell those who were expecting the girls to come forward regarding the scandal had expected too much. In fact, the first half of the video had nothing to do with 'confession' at all and was more set to their showcase in Malaysia.
    When the group were altogether in the hotel room (after the ad break) where the subject regarding that mess was talked about, Hwayoung herself was not even directly mentioned and they were actually very, very vague as to what occurred and even then, spent a great deal of the second half of the show mostly talking about themselves and the group as a whole.
    What Soyeon did however, admit (note - this has little to nothing to do with the scandal) is that way back in the BPBP days, the group was particularly starved and forced into something that may be seen as a severe diet up to the point that when other idols or singers that were their seniors (in terms of how long they were in the industry) usually left behind leftovers after performances, the girls actually grabbed as much as they could - particularly snacks and gimbap, shoved such food in their pockets and even ate them in the toilets to avoid getting caught.
    That....is pretty darn nasty. When Areum says that what she's going through doesn't even amount to even one bit of what T-ara had to go through since debut, Soyeon then lets out that there were quite a lot of moments that the members cried.
    Basically, the title of the show 'Confession' is rather quite misleading. In fact, none of the members look even willing to spill anything in detail at all - in other words, what exactly transpired. I'd even go to say it did little to nothing to actually contradict what antis, netizens believe.
    And why? The most likely reason is that what they say is being filtered and monitored by a certain someone (no prizes to guessing who that is). CCM is part of Mnet Media itself (and Mnet Channel is the one broadcasting this) - there's no way they'd let anything in detail be told at all, no matter how much T-ara wants to speak out for themselves without internal consequences.
    All in all, it's rather disappointing, even for me who didn't expect much out of it.
    If anyone wants to ask for more details of what they said, feel free to PM me.
    Thanks!
    Edit: I also forgot to mention this - the members, Hyomin and Soyeon in particular, have said that they're worried for us fans as well. Whether if they actually know how divided the fandom has become or simply that they're concerned with the crap we had to pull over with from antis or netizens as a whole is debatable, as they were quite vague with this too.
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    nothingtosay got a reaction from Frostyblizzard in [12.10.20] Video - T-ara Confession   
    Hope there will be a subbed version too.I am going to use the content to fire back the haters in Allkpop.
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    nothingtosay reacted to Shukuchi02 in [SPAZZ] Terrible Experience at T-ara’s Malaysia Showcase   
    I wouldn't be surprised. I've actually work along side with Jazzy for free just to see this showcase work.
    They've let me down countless of times to the point that I just called it quits and work with the local fan clubs instead as that proves to be more successful and less disappointing. As a VVIP ticket holder here as well, I am fairly disappointed in a few things.
    1. Media control. There were so many reporters/etc that were blocking the viewers thus resulting in more viewers standing up to get a better view.
    2. Audio control. Not only there were some minor audio issues but the microphone was very faulty, hurting the Day by Day performance dearly when that will be one of the highlights of the showcase itself.
    3. Poor organizer. It was bad enough that they removed the live fan sign event but the promised two extra songs for the removal of live fan sign was broken. Empty promises are made over and over again.
    4. Venue. This is probably the biggest problem. Arrangements of equipments are so poor that they obstruct views from many attendees. The stage was too low as well, causing some of the scenes to be missed by a mile (Hyomin lying down on the chairs in I go crazy because of you).
    5. Seats. Unfair pretty much. Additional seats were added without the consideration of the already existing viewers. Sure, we will all like as many Queen's to attend this as possible, but given the selected venue, adding seats are lowering the intrinsic value of the tickets for people who got pushed back.
    But I have to say, being able to meet T-Ara in person canceled out everything. Though from a consumer's point of view, I won't let Jazzy get away so easily.
    Cheers.
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    nothingtosay reacted to MephistoMun in [SPAZZ] Terrible Experience at T-ara’s Malaysia Showcase   
    I don't think the organizer will learn about this nor they will care about the fan's feedback. Typical Malaysian always: "Money first, talk later" kind of attitude.
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    nothingtosay reacted to marinhoramone in [12.09.29] Video HD - Sexy Love on Music Core   
    Thank you!!!
    Japanese fans are good. cross the ocean to support T-Ara
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    nothingtosay reacted to love_t-ara in [12.09.16] T-ara offered to receive best top star treatment in Hong Kong, "Politely declined"   
    Love HONG KONG , Love HKQueens,
    don't give chance into antis,
    Lucky they have parties there, pls give good care of T-ara, cheer them UP!
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    nothingtosay reacted to iAmEd in [12.09.14] Why has T-ara's Soyeon not appeared in "Haeundae Lovers" since episode 8?   
    K-Netizens have so much power over their media. It also doesn't help when it's a female thats affected. On the otherhand, male idols get let off the hook for much harsher problems because "omg oppa didn't meant it, oppa didn't do it". Seriously, K-Netizens, smh.
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    nothingtosay reacted to swinder in [12.09.10] T-ara humiliated as audience cheered "Hwayoung" at Jeju Island concert   
    i'm really seeing the ugly side of Koreans here. so immature and small minded. i hope they did not take in the heart. if they will come to my country it will be all cheers and smiles!! i hope the HK showcase will be a success! T-ARA FIGHTING!
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    nothingtosay reacted to jknlet in [12.08.29] Actress Kim Hye Eun "Soyeon staying on Haeundae Lovers, please applaud!"   
    i´m happy there are still some adult with a brain in Korea.
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    nothingtosay reacted to SimonH in [DISC] Anti-Hwayoung and Bashing   
    This is going to be really difficult since most of the haters lack common sense. Heck, I could spend less effort teaching a child about presumption of innocence than to educate haters on why it's better to love something than to hate it.
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    nothingtosay reacted to min young in [12.08.27] T-ara's Eunjung and Jiyeon's cameo in "Shut Up Family" will be edited out   
    you know what? kbs representative answer the question 'why remove jiyeon and eunjung' is 'WHAT WERE THOSE VIEWERS THINKING'.
    Can 't believe it,they pretend kind/care what viewers thinking but not jiyeon,eunjung,t-ara family,t-ara fans feeling...
    AND I HEARD SEXY LOVE WILL POSTPONED UNTIL NEXT MONTH.FOR ME IT'S OKAY SINCE SOYEON NOT FULLY RECOVER YET...ALL T-ARA MEMBER STILL NEED TIME...
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    nothingtosay reacted to czakins in [DISC] Anti-Hwayoung and Bashing   
    All I can say is, I support T-ara and Hwayoung. LOL Joke, I have more to say...
    We share the same sentiments in some point. But you can't help those Hwa-antis now from hating her. Just like how T-ara antis are hating on T-ara.
    Hmm I'm not sure with the reason why she's not speaking up, it's either she was really bullied/felt an outcast OR enjoying the support of the anti-T-ara peeps, and in just a snap her popularity escalated in a very short span of time. (In kpop world I doubt none of them does not want fame). No efforts needed. Taking advantage in the situation.
    And maybe if she speaks up about this, and say she wasn't bullied, people will now hate on her. And she wouldn't want that would she? Hmm this is just my opinion, looking at the two sides of a coin. ^^v
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    nothingtosay reacted to -o0Winifer_mto0- in [DISC] Anti-Hwayoung and Bashing   
    ok, I'm not going to say that I AGREE with everything that you said but I'm going to say that I UNDERSTAND for everything that you point out.
    Everybody will have different perspective so I totally understand how you feel about this.
    Deserve to be bullied:
    I totally agree, nobody deserves to be bullied. Sso already said sorry that she didnt notice that how Hwa really feel. You can see it (if you go along with T-ara long enough) about Hwa. She really does talk much. Yes she does mess around and joke alot, but she doesnt really talk her opinion and what she thinks. Watched many time T-ara receive award and trophy, she never cries before, and if you watch SLT when she went out with her sister, she cried after her sister after a while. And the one who really said things out is her sister not her.
    I agree that T-ara should pay more attention to her, but I also understand that they're already really busy, and they also just hear and mess around with Hwa and dont really know that Hwa feeling sad inside. They unfortunately assumed that Hwa was doing fine with them.
    The beauty salon:
    I understand how you said that she can use her free time to do whatever she wants. And I will tell you why I can understand for T-ara when they don't really agree with her action. Do you remember when EJ want to go to Paris with T-ara with her crunch on? Or when she has to do the shuffle dance with her injured ankle and un-fully healed knee? OR Jiyeon had to take painkiller to perform Roly Poly?
    The point is, Hwa cant work over everything like that like T-ara. T-ara forces and requires from themselves too much to be at the point that they are right now. They dont allow themselves to have any rest, or free time.
    Maybe, you dont feel like T-ara but I do. When I'm practicing my a** off, and get scold by the producer at the rehearsal concert (if you watch SLT). Will you get mad if you know that other member is relaxing when you are suffering?
    That's what called GROUP. Suffer together, have fun together.
    Maybe, with her injure she doesnt have to practice with them but at least she can sit and watch to know what is going on and can join if she really want to on the performing day, right?
    None of T-ara members want her to get injure, so it's not their responsible to allow Hwa to go to the beauty salon.
    They get mad because Hwa said that Hwa wanted to rest at the hotel, and she end up to relax at the beauty salon. They got more sensitive because they had to practice so much at that time.
    Tweeting:
    I totally agree that, this is their fault to bring this out to the public (Twitter). But if you read over their tweets, you can see that there is really nothing wrong. All of them added Hwating! Fighting in their tweets to cheer each other up. T-ara did that all the time. They joined in the conversation all the time, not just this time.
    Even with Hwa's tweet is nothing bad too. She just showed her sadness that she can't work as hard as other.
    I also dont think that she was immature at that time.
    But things got immature when her sister and her rap teacher joined with her. Is that also called ganging up to bully T-ara?
    and I admit, all of the tweets (include Hwa's) had nothing wrong.
    The one who really blew things up is the stupid netizens, her sister and the teacher also fill up the fuel.
    Honestly, I didnt hate on Hwa when the controversy started, until now, I still dont.
    But you have to understand for all the bashing on Hwa right now is because QUEEN'S reached their hopeless point.
    They don't know who to blame on. Blame on netizens? Too wide, it's like an invisible target. They choose to blame the one who get the stronger side = Hwa. The one that they really know and really can see who is she.
    I agree with you we still need to support T-ara and also Hwa.
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    nothingtosay reacted to maknae23 in [DISC] Anti-Hwayoung and Bashing   
    @Klee, I understand your thoughts but I'll have to give my personal comments on some of the points you brought up. Again, no offense to anyone.
    I admit that I'm bias and I tend to sway a little more towards T-ara compared to Hwayoung as I find it quite hard to balance equally between both sides. I apologize for that, it's just my own personal feelings and yeah I'm guilty for that. But don't misunderstand, I don't hate Hwayoung and I don't deny that she was a victim together with T-ara. I will never call her a xxxx because if Hwayoung is a xxxx, the rest of T-ara are xxxxxes as well.
    Beauty Salon : I agree that it's Hwayoung's right to visit the beauty salon when she had her time off. The problem is she did it when the others were practicing hard (I guess) for the concert. Yes, T-ara should have understood that Hwayoung was frustrated and all that but THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE A HUGE CONCERT THE NEXT DAY. You just can't expect them to go "Poor Hwayoung, we should let her do her manicure since she's injured while we'll continue to die here" (maybe Qri did that) but normal human beings will feel uncomfortable with her actions.
    I don't know about you but I certainly won't like it if I am stressed up like a mad cow and someone is kinda enjoying herself in the midst of my misery. I don't even like it if my parents go for a holiday during my exam period. Although they don't help directly in my studies but I need them to be with me and I need them to give me the support that I need during difficult times. (I know I'm a bad daughter). The same goes to T-ara. They needed her to be there or at least not do some manicure while they were busy practising. I know it's selfish but maybe she can do her manicure err later?
    Tweets : Said this gazillion times already. Everybody's at fault including Hwayoung AND T-ara (except Qri). They shouldn't have tweeted. But the main issue here is again with Hwayoung's continuous tweets even after KKS kicked her out. She seemed to know that she would be kicked out since she tweeted "The support of my family and my fans is worth so much to me. Please watch over me." I guess she was just taken aback by the reasons KKS gave and hence came up with the "Facts without truth" tweet. And then she apologized. She tweeted something that somehow went against KKS's statement and then she apologized for giving all the trouble. I would say she was immature but T-ara were immature as well.
    I don't expect her to act all depressed but I don't expect her to publicly go to a concert and allow her sister to post happy selcas either. I don't know. Just try to do it secretly. Something bad happened, the other party are in deep xxxx and people expect you to behave as if you are in deep xxxx too. But well, I apologize again cause I should be happy if she's happy. It's just that unfair feeling I got when I saw how T-ara were slowly torned apart and suddenly there was this selca in my fb news feed.
    And to sum it up, the reason I tend to side T-ara a tad more is because they are getting all the heat. Hwayoung only gets xxxx from Queen's but T-ara get xxxx from Queen's, the infamous netizens and the drama production teams due to KKS's brilliant decision. I'm sorry but I can't help believing the "fact" that Hwayoung didn't want to perform during Music Bank. I was laughing at Hyomin's cuteness for looking at the cue card while rapping but when I watched back, she was practically struggling to rap even with cue cards. I don't know whether Eunjung was prepared for Hwayoung's rap but the cue card was up when Eunjung started singing so ... I don't know ...
    Despite that, I agree that Hwayoung definitely does not deserve that amount of hate from Queen's and if not performing was the sole reason she got kicked out, KKS is a .... (refrain myself from hating) . I see some Hwa stans hating on T-ara too. In the end it all depends on who's your bias in the group and who you choose to believe. But yeah, no bashing please.
    It's almost 5am now. I can't think straight. Please pardon me for my language, the long rant and I apologize if I have offended anyone. Here's to wishing a pleasant September for T-ara and the end of their misery. Cheers and peace.
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    nothingtosay reacted to klee95 in [DISC] Anti-Hwayoung and Bashing   
    This will contain some sensitive topics, so if I offend you, please be aware that that was not my intention. Furthermore, because I’m sure that members of this forum are reasonable people, most of this will not even apply to you. However, there are some things I’ve noticed around the fandom that I believe require addressing – namely, anti-Hwayoung sentiments and “defending” T-ara from haters.
    First of all, there’s one thing I’d like to make clear – Hwayoung is a victim. I’m not saying she was the sole victim in this controversy, like she was a perfect angel and the rest of T-ara are complete monsters that bullied her and forced her in a cupboard like Harry Potter or some farfetched story like that. BUT, in the light of recent news, a lot of people have forgotten one thing – Hwayoung was actually kicked out of T-ara. She is definitely a victim.
    As such, it is very upsetting to me when I see fans bashing on Hwayoung; she is entirely undeserving of it and should instead be supported like the member of T-ara she is. I will list here the general things I’ve seen and make my rebuttal:
    Deserving to be Bullied: This one is undoubtedly the rarest, but also the most disgusting. I am not kidding you – I have actually heard (or read, really) that because Hwayoung was the new member, any unhappy things she may have experienced were entirely justified. I honestly feel that I shouldn’t have to counter this one, but suffice to say that that belief is so vile I’m not going to get into that mess. No one deserves to be unhappy, and anybody who says otherwise…I recommend counseling.
    Beauty Salon: This is a little more ambiguous. Because of Hwayoung’s injury, she was handicapped and unable to practice, and as such she was granted time to rest. The general belief is that because Hwayoung chose to go to a beauty salon, this generated ill feelings between the members – leading to the tweets that started all this.
    However, in this case I don’t see any fault in Hwayoung’s actions. Note that she was handicapped and that staying for practice would have been highly illogical when she could finally rest for once. The argument against this is that Hwayoung should have been at home resting and not at a beauty salon, implying that she was lying/faking. However, Hwayoung had a hurt ankle. She didn’t have both her kneecaps shattered or something; she was not immobile, and resting does not have to be lying in bed 24 hours a day. Hwayoung can do whatever she wants in her time off.
    Another argument I hear is that doing so was “bad timing” and that Hwayoung didn’t show “team spirit.” Again, this is fairly illogical – what could Hwayoung have even contributed to at the practice? Not to mention it’s hard to rest in a dance studio, as that was what she was supposed to be doing. When a highly overworked idol is given time to herself, she rests. The only bad timing in this is that we happened to find out now.
    Tweets: Aha, the tweets, one of the things that most aggravates people for some inexplicable reason. The reason these tweets upset people are because they are considered, and I quote “immature, hateful, arrogant, etc. etc.”
    Of course, a lot of us forget that the whole tweeting fiasco was actually started by Hyomin with the determination thing. I firmly believe that any problems between the members, if dealt with maturely, should not have been solved (or vented) on Twitter, but once someone starts…you can’t exactly just blame someone who follows. If Hwayoung’s tweet was immature, then so was everybody else’s, no?
    As for Hwayoung’s other tweet on the 28th (“The support of my family and my fans is worth so much to me.”), the same logic applies. Furthermore, most of us say that idols have the right to tweet about their feelings too, so I don’t see why this only doesn’t apply to Hwayoung. Now would probably be a good time for me to say I do believe Hwayoung was unhappy – and no, this does not mean I think T-ara are evil (do not be black and white about this, I can support both sides). The T-ara members might not even have realized they were ignoring Hwayoung in ways that hurt her, but nevertheless, she was unhappy – hence that tweet.
    The tweet on the 31st (“…facts without any truth”) was NOT immature, in any way. I am still incredulous over the fact that some people actually believe the crap KKS spewed, especially as most of the people who choose to believe him this instance are the same people who hate on him the loudest. KKS is a horribly incompetent liar, and seeing as he was flat-out slandering Hwayoung in his statements, Hwayoung had every right to fight back.
    Acting the Victim: I admit I don’t entirely understand this one, and I am definitely slipping into sarcasm here, but – sure, Hwayoung is acting the victim by throwing herself out of T-ara and quite possibly getting blacklisted in the entertainment industry. Read that to yourself and say you agree. Can’t do it, right? It’s just like saying that Eunjung’s acting the victim by throwing herself out of Five Fingers. It doesn’t make any sense.
    Again, Hwayoung is a victim, and T-ara is as well. There is no acting involved.
    Not Speaking Up: A lot of people argue that Hwayoung, if she really loved the T-ara members, should speak up and dispel all the rumors so everything clears up. I see this type of thing a lot: “Why doesn’t Hwayoung say something so people will like T-ara again?” or “The bullying isn’t true, so if Hwayoung would just say that then everything would be okay.”
    The most obvious reason Hwayoung hasn’t said she wasn’t bullied is – she was bullied, or was unhappy about bad communication within the group (more likely). Now, before anyone flies into a rage, I’d like to say this is all about perception. Hwayoung didn’t feel happy, ergo she doesn’t say anything. This is a very understandable reaction.
    Also, we can’t be sure Hwayoung even has the ability to speak up. Seeing as Hyoyoung is still in CCM, and combined with the fact that the company is a lot more powerful than Hwayoung, she may not be allowed to speak on the issue. Just because she hasn’t come out to clarify the issue (just like how the T-ara members didn’t until just recently) doesn’t mean Hwayoung’s some evil monster who enjoys seeing the group suffer.
    And again, I understand that some people are upset that Hwayoung’s fortunes seem to be better than T-ara’s, especially with her selcas and such – but, would you really rather see Hwayoung act all depressed?
    With that being said, I hope people can continue to support both T-ara and Hwayoung.
    However, supporting T-ara doesn’t mean flaming the haters.
    I wholly advocate stepping up and calmly and logically defending T-ara; but there is one thing I’ve seen that should not happen – fans banding together, intentionally seeking out the “haters,” and then attacking in a group. This is practically the definition of cyberbullying, and seeing as that is precisely what fans accuse the haters of doing…why sink to their level?
    There’s nothing wrong with defending T-ara, but the way it’s happening isn’t going to change any minds. I’m not going to name any names, but a large majority of the “defense” is comprised of vulgar insults and immature bashing, like calling them retards or b*tches. This. Isn’t. Helping. If anything, it makes us fans, and T-ara by extension, look even worse. What’s happening here is that people are using “defending T-ara” as an excuse to vent.
    I realize that fans are angry about these antis, but that isn’t an excuse. If I’m supposed to just let it go because fans are doing this out of anger, then that would mean condoning haters as well, and I try not to be a hypocrite.
    Please stay calm. And I apologize for this super-long post; I realize I’m being very verbose.
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    nothingtosay reacted to kkyc222 in [12.08.24] Translation - Director Cha Eun-taek's tweet about Eunjung   
    [ENG TRANS] Director Cha Eun Taek's tweet:
    @goninri Eunjung has left her drama...in a very short period of time, really so much has happened...I know she even bought a piano and practiced for a very long time...I hope she doesn't suffer anymore more pain now...
    T/N: Director Cha EunTaek is a famous CF/MV director: he directed T-ara's Roly Poly, Cry Cry/Lovey Dovey, Day by Day/Sexy Love MV
    via Chinese Trans by TCN
    恩静的电视剧下车...真的是很短的时间里发生了很多事啊...知道连钢琴都买了,练习了很长时间,现在希望不要再受到伤害了
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    nothingtosay reacted to clearwater in [12.08.23] Ham Eunjung at home in seclusion with her mother   
    [Dream High Episode 13, scene: Eunjung’s character, Yoon Baek Hee, was ostracized in school and a subject of gossip because she cheated/plagiarized her showcase song and made a mess in her performance]
    Yoon Baek Hee: “It’s not over for me"
    Go Hye Mi: "I know."
    Yoon Baek Hee: "I’m not going to give up.”
    Go Hye Mi: "I know."
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    [Episode 14, in Yoon Baek Hee's audition video after her scandal]
    Yoon Baek Hee: “I know that my reputation isn’t good because of the scandalous situation surrounding me right now. That’s why I believe I need to fight even harder than everyone else. That could be my greatest asset.”
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    Eunjung, I hope you remember these lines and learned from your character Yoon Baek Hee... So hang on and don't give up!
    Fighting!

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    nothingtosay reacted to clearwater in [12.08.23] Ham Eunjung at home in seclusion with her mother   
    I really feel sorry for Eunjung. All her fans are outraged and devastated too. Eunjung must be feeling more than devastated. Everything she worked hard for went down the drain. She worked on her hair too, she practiced piano, she practiced her lines, and now she must be feeling like she's in hell. What's worse, she might be even blaming herself for this even if she has no fault. I am glad that she has a very supportive family. I have faith that she can get through this.
    She's hurting more than ever now. This is the biggest blow so far for her. She entered the entertainment industry to follow her acting dreams and now it seems like the industry turned its back on her. She looked so lifeless and empty when she attended the 5F press conference yet she maintained her professionalism and controlled her emotions to be less of a burden to the 5F team. I thought that her source of strength at that time is the very idea that despite everything she lost due to the T-ara controversy, she still has her acting career at least, and she must have been holding on to it so tightly. But what happened yesterday is the very moment she probably feared: to lose that drama... the drama she chose among other offers, the drama close to her heart because of her mother (piano, acting, reaching dreams)... the drama she cared so much for, that she allegedly gave up other things like WGM just so she can focus on it... And then suddenly she gets betrayed in the vilest and most inconsiderate, unprofessional, unethical way. It's like she was stabbed in the back, not just through any blow but through the moist poisonous and the most lethal weapon that it hurts so bad... not just any hurt.... it probably hurts like she was stabbed a gazillion times, and then put through fire, then thrown in the darkest pit.
    Since the T-ara controversy made her lose a lot of things, it seemed that 5F was her supposed lifeline... It gave her hope to carry on. I read somewhere that before, they had to really push and insist to KKS to get them dramas. After the controversy, and after 5F, her future is uncertain because drama offers have probably stopped. And so Eunjung has to hold on to it tight. Now that even 5F is gone... one can only imagine the feeling, like you want to get angry at everything... Oh I can only wish that Eunjung remains strong. I hope she remains calm. I hope she can still think positive. She still has a lot of supporters.
    I hope she learned enough from playing Yoon Baek Hee in Dream High... It's not the end of her story... she'll learn from these and she'll come back stronger. I wish someone gives her that K-pendant to remind her to keep on fighting for her dreams.
    As for Five Fingers production team, I am still disappointed in them, I really hope they regret what they did. And I really hope they're not like enjoying themselves right now because they got rid of Eunjung. As for those sponsors who pressured them to ditch Eunjung, I hope they realize that they made a wrong decision and I am hopeful that... they don't just realize it... I am hopeful that they will see and feel the backlash from Eunjung's fans. Eunjung's fans are mature, but when it comes to violation of Eunjung's rights... ah... you've got to realize that it's a wrong move to listen to anti-fans and ignore the fans. Fans, when angered, are scary too you know.
    As for Jin Se Yeon, READERS, FORGIVE ME FOR MY HONESTY IN THESE SUCCEEDING WORDS SKIP IT IF YOU WANT... as much as she seems innocent in this, I really can't take out anymore the idea in my head that she was some kind of an opportunist, that she was too eager to snatch Eunjung's role the moment the production team gets rid of her. She's supposedly Eunjung's friend and Eunjung even supported Gaksital probably because of her... and she probably knows that Eunjung owns the role... I don't know... Somehow I think her role in the movie White who wanted to be get the lead/center role of the girl group, sort of mirrors this situation, like they're competing for the lead role of this drama. Sorry I can't help it... Se Yeon's role in the movie White... she got chosen for the lead role at some point... but she died because of it. Paid for the greed. Ugh. I guess it's good that Eunjung is safe 'coz she's not the lead. THERE I SAID IT. SORRY. I mean no harm. Sorry for thinking those evil words... I guess I am looking for some defense mechanism but I ended up thinking these. I just want to let it out, so I can move on. Forgive me.
    As regards the Sexy Love comeback single... I am no longer sure if they will push through with Aug. 29 release. I have a hunch it's not pushing through again because Eunjung suffered such a painful blow just 7 days before the release. Somehow I really want them all to go on a hiatus for some months just so they can rest, reflect, recharge and regain some confidence. I know I have posted a lot of things ever since the controversy started that I was excited for the release of Sexy Love more than ever. I am sorry. I guess I was too selfish, I was only thinking of my own entertainment. I guess the girls really need some time off. Yesterday's events made me realize how much tortured they are already by the public and the industry who turned their backs on them. They have their limits too as humans and it's probably not wise to risk whatever cards they have remaining in their hands. Or perhaps they can release it not in Korea. Perhaps in other countries, where they still have so much supporters who are willing to accept them again after the controversy. Seriously CCM, how about learning from your mistakes this time and know how to properly manage the group? Oh well... Whatever they decide, I hope it's for the welfare of everyone, especially of the T-ara members. I am still hoping that they can survive this by staying strong. Let's not lose hope for them.
    Whatever I said in this post, I want to clarify it in a few words... I wish the best for everyone, I mean no harm... but those who wronged people should definitely pay.
    Eunjung Fighting! T-ara Fighting!
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    nothingtosay reacted to mae_ash in [12.08.23] Ham Eunjung at home in seclusion with her mother   
    LOL she's the one who insisted on taking 'Five Fingers', what's there to sympathize?? I guess she's happy because even before Bridal Mask end she already got another drama.. BM production team is even disappointed at her for accepting this drama when BM haven't even ended yet.. Joo Won got a lot of offer too to star in their drama even before BM ends yet he still haven't accepted any because he choose to focus in BM since their taping & BM haven't ended yet..
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