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Has anyone even thought that amongst those 30k, a portion of them are likely to be just your average Joe or even antis? The MV in YT is also plagued with them and last time I checked, roughly a third of the like/dislike bar was RED.
Regardless, the MV and site was bound to gain attention from all sides. Not just the fans.

It's long overdue since they finally stepped out and suffice to say, I'm relieved to see something positive happen out of this mess.
They have indeed given off that some form of internal conflict had occurred. I'm curious as to how they managed to get this out due to KKS's idiocy and his dictator-like ways though. Must've been a hard one.
Now...if only people can start pinpointing who's the real deep root of this mess as the writer for Haeundae Lovers has mentioned...such a lousy way of handling the crisis is simply untolerable and I hope this serves as an example that fans and the public as a whole should start getting more rough towards KKS. The man is an absolute disgrace.

We should look on the bright side; it wouldn't go over well with the public if the clip was released with Jiyeon and Eunjung recording happily and joking around. At least this way, there won't be even more backlash - and when they are aired, they can repair their images first by clarifying on the issue.
...optimism I almost want to puke from the rainbows.

[12.08.24] Haeundae Lover's writer, "T-ara's situation, regretful towards their agency"





Haeundae Lovers's Writer opened up about Haeundae Lover's Soyeon on the morning of the 24th, expressing her thoughts about the T-ara situation:
She said, "speaking about Soyeon is a very sensitive matter" "I've not seen Soyeon before. It seems like it was T-ara's agency which allowed things to become like this"
She continued, "The company should, in line with what the public and citizens want, give an explanation about the issue" "Eunjung left her drama recently, and the requests for the other members to leave are also continuing endlesslessly, it is like they are digging their own graves. I feel very regretful about their company"
About the requests for Soyeon to leave Haeundae Lovers, "Soyeon is not a main character but a supporting character" "Filming already began before the T-ara issue, if she were to leave, we would have to re-film which is not easy" "Soyeon began filming before the T-ara issue" "At that time we did not expect there to be such a conflict"
"The Tablo incident also happened before, and I felt very saddened about it" "Same about Soyeon. Even after the debate, there is no way to accurately know the reasons, we can't just let her leave the drama. I thought the agency would come up with sensible measures, but to let the incident grow large like this, it is not possible to not have any thoughts of complaints."
"Disregarding the truth or falsity of the T-ara debate, I hope that they can take this opportunity and become even more united. Personally, I also have worries as to whether T-ara will disband because of this" "When I do sports, I also gain energy from listening to T-ara's songs"
She cautiously said, "Soyeon was in a traffic accident not long ago, and I know there appeared rumours claiming that the accident was fake, the situation is really serious" "For me, I want to protect those who appear in my work, the cast and crew who have worked hard"
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Translated by @kckclalala via Chinese translations from TCN
Original Article: http://news.nate.com.../20120824n13732

Quite an extensive list of the duds happening to T-ara all year. They actually seem extremely unlucky and I'd go as far to say they're the most unlucky group at current.
1. Eunjung's leg injury during LD promotions
2. Jiyeon is unable to take her first ever vacation since debut due to DH2 filming
3. Soyeon apparently has a bit of a leg injury herself and ends up performing on crutches.
4. KKS openly threatens them in public
5. 2 unnecessary members are added
6. Boram is caught up with acute gastritis
7. The Twitter issue results in the greatest idol scandal and chaos of 2012
8. Hwayoung's contract is terminated and gets kicked out.
9. Soyeon gets in a major car accident (supposedly anyway)
10. Eunjung gets the boot from the drama she's supposed to be in.
Am I missing anything so far?
It almost as seems like fate wants them to collapse (whether if it's targeted towards CCM or T-ara itself however, is a matter of debate).
Creepy O.o

Well...on the plus side, at least she gets some time to rest and refit - which is something the fandom as a whole had always wanted for the members.
Although I'd also have to sympathize for Jin Se Yeon having to film 2 dramas at once for several weeks, since Bridal Mask is still two weeks away from being finished.

@xbot - Even still, going up against one of the three largest broadcasting companies of the whole country is a pretty dangerous game and they're likely to play hardball if attacked at - this is a whole lot different from going up against entertainment agencies, who RELY on these three companies to show their artists in front of the screen of millions.
Although it would be ridiculous for CCM to make a fuss about this, it IS CCM after all. Known to make some of the most dumbest mistakes in Kpop that is worth noting down and it wouldn't be surprising if they did something stupid and make the whole situation a heck lot worse.
Just look at how they handled Hwayoung's departure and the circumstances surrounding it. It's not exactly surprising that both KBS, MBC and SBS themselves are likely to see T-ara in a pretty negative aspect like the public does, aside from ratings and profit - if this is the case, then it's probably their way of saying 'F U!' to CCM while T-ara is part of the collateral damage.

Just remember, who's making the call to still do jack squat nothing with all these goings-on... But seriously, if ever there was a time for the girls to defy that man, it'd be now. Even if it were messy, emotional and inarticulate, I'd feel like it were... a response fitting to the situation. I get the feeling it wouldn't be met well by the Korean public, so I hope that they can manage a composed response, but hey.
And yeah...
Backbone, that element lacking in those responsible for Eunjung's sacking. Or, I guess, maybe worse, they're really just creating a situation where their originally intended actions would be more palatable to the public eye. Like what Pilot did, for those of you who know that part of the bible.
But man, this is why Mr. Kim is a stain on the prestige of the kpop industry. Yeah, they (Koreans) deal with things in some ways that I (and others) disagree with. Yeah, it's not all fantasy land magic with kisses and rainbows. Yeah, it's not everything it presents itself to be. But, Kpop is a legitimate entertainment option, and one of its main draws was, really, that they could do those entertainment things without having the same hangups as the American entertainment industry. Not to give too much sway to like, stereotypes, but Kpop is making it in the Arab world. And I've read, blogs and stuff from Americans, that the thing about Kpop is that it isn't rife with the same cynical, jaded viewpoints we get all the time in America (even in our mf-ing children's movies, for foss sake), and that America is exporting to the rest of the world, all the f-ing time. And that is still true - Koreans care about different things than Americans do, they deal with things in a different way, all those little things that are different across cultures, but they could still produce a polished, purchasable, and (generally) positive product.
And again, even if backstage, things aren't like on the stage, you take that as a given (once you figure that stuff out) - you still like it, it's still fun, you still listen to it and watch it and talk about it. But can you imagine this situation being as bad as it is if any other company were involved? I mean, arguably we wouldn't even have any kind of crisis as we're having, because other companies wouldn't have given the rumor mill a free hand for five days and then decided to fire the very person that everyone in the public was siding with, and they wouldn't have built a reputation such that people were willing to speculate that you orchestrated a car accident involving four people aside from one of your stars just to gain sympathy, and they wouldn't just sit on their hands after gaining the personal satisfaction of getting your "rebel" star to apologize to you in private. Not only is his company losing money, not only is T-ara having all the problems they're having, but all of Korea is looking jacked right now to the casual observer, not just the Kpop world - and right when it's building momentum across the world.
I mean, if I were a fan on a website talking about American stuff, I would sound like I hated the USA - there's just that much to complain about, seeing things from the inside (and I'm sure people around the world have their complaints too) - okay, maybe I wouldn't, discretion and all, but if I were to complain about American stuff... But kpop is relatively new to the international stage, and aside from people's opinions about Koreans and Asians in general, they just don't need another reason to look down on it. And yet here we have all this.
Mr. Kim may not have created Korean society, he may not have dictated everything about this situation, but he sure as s did his durndest to make things as ridiculous as they've gotten - starting with just being so easy to hate.
But luckily, something distracted me before I bored you even more.
Just because I just saw it, if you're gonna talk about "idols," I mean, what exactly did T-ara do that was so unworthy? Hwayoung, for not not going on stage, or for tweeting about feeling like she was alone in an argument? The other girls, for tweeting words of encouragement that were twisted around to look like mockery? I only take my trash out in the middle of the night - does that make me guilty of making someone think I have something in my trash that I want to keep hidden?
See? This is why I stopped coming here back in April. I just keep going.
Man, before then, I was happy answering questions like "do you like Hyomin with glasses or without?"

Quite an extensive list of the duds happening to T-ara all year. They actually seem extremely unlucky and I'd go as far to say they're the most unlucky group at current.
1. Eunjung's leg injury during LD promotions
2. Jiyeon is unable to take her first ever vacation since debut due to DH2 filming
3. Soyeon apparently has a bit of a leg injury herself and ends up performing on crutches.
4. KKS openly threatens them in public
5. 2 unnecessary members are added
6. Boram is caught up with acute gastritis
7. The Twitter issue results in the greatest idol scandal and chaos of 2012
8. Hwayoung's contract is terminated and gets kicked out.
9. Soyeon gets in a major car accident (supposedly anyway)
10. Eunjung gets the boot from the drama she's supposed to be in.
Am I missing anything so far?
It almost as seems like fate wants them to collapse (whether if it's targeted towards CCM or T-ara itself however, is a matter of debate).
Creepy O.o

Just because she's the most mentally stable in T-ara doesn't mean she's invincible to whatever crap can happen to her and the group as a whole.
Eunjung, yet alone T-ara as a whole (save for Jiyeon in regards to the late 2010 incident) had never gone through something like this before and to assume that emotional distress didn't play a role in her sudden withdrawal from the drama cast is just idiocy. Her mom pretty much confirmed (or at least heavily suggested or implied) that Eunjung's having it incredibly rough and has even lost weight in recent times.

Quite an extensive list of the duds happening to T-ara all year. They actually seem extremely unlucky and I'd go as far to say they're the most unlucky group at current.
1. Eunjung's leg injury during LD promotions
2. Jiyeon is unable to take her first ever vacation since debut due to DH2 filming
3. Soyeon apparently has a bit of a leg injury herself and ends up performing on crutches.
4. KKS openly threatens them in public
5. 2 unnecessary members are added
6. Boram is caught up with acute gastritis
7. The Twitter issue results in the greatest idol scandal and chaos of 2012
8. Hwayoung's contract is terminated and gets kicked out.
9. Soyeon gets in a major car accident (supposedly anyway)
10. Eunjung gets the boot from the drama she's supposed to be in.
Am I missing anything so far?
It almost as seems like fate wants them to collapse (whether if it's targeted towards CCM or T-ara itself however, is a matter of debate).
Creepy O.o

Quite an extensive list of the duds happening to T-ara all year. They actually seem extremely unlucky and I'd go as far to say they're the most unlucky group at current.
1. Eunjung's leg injury during LD promotions
2. Jiyeon is unable to take her first ever vacation since debut due to DH2 filming
3. Soyeon apparently has a bit of a leg injury herself and ends up performing on crutches.
4. KKS openly threatens them in public
5. 2 unnecessary members are added
6. Boram is caught up with acute gastritis
7. The Twitter issue results in the greatest idol scandal and chaos of 2012
8. Hwayoung's contract is terminated and gets kicked out.
9. Soyeon gets in a major car accident (supposedly anyway)
10. Eunjung gets the boot from the drama she's supposed to be in.
Am I missing anything so far?
It almost as seems like fate wants them to collapse (whether if it's targeted towards CCM or T-ara itself however, is a matter of debate).
Creepy O.o

Quite an extensive list of the duds happening to T-ara all year. They actually seem extremely unlucky and I'd go as far to say they're the most unlucky group at current.
1. Eunjung's leg injury during LD promotions
2. Jiyeon is unable to take her first ever vacation since debut due to DH2 filming
3. Soyeon apparently has a bit of a leg injury herself and ends up performing on crutches.
4. KKS openly threatens them in public
5. 2 unnecessary members are added
6. Boram is caught up with acute gastritis
7. The Twitter issue results in the greatest idol scandal and chaos of 2012
8. Hwayoung's contract is terminated and gets kicked out.
9. Soyeon gets in a major car accident (supposedly anyway)
10. Eunjung gets the boot from the drama she's supposed to be in.
Am I missing anything so far?
It almost as seems like fate wants them to collapse (whether if it's targeted towards CCM or T-ara itself however, is a matter of debate).
Creepy O.o

Quite an extensive list of the duds happening to T-ara all year. They actually seem extremely unlucky and I'd go as far to say they're the most unlucky group at current.
1. Eunjung's leg injury during LD promotions
2. Jiyeon is unable to take her first ever vacation since debut due to DH2 filming
3. Soyeon apparently has a bit of a leg injury herself and ends up performing on crutches.
4. KKS openly threatens them in public
5. 2 unnecessary members are added
6. Boram is caught up with acute gastritis
7. The Twitter issue results in the greatest idol scandal and chaos of 2012
8. Hwayoung's contract is terminated and gets kicked out.
9. Soyeon gets in a major car accident (supposedly anyway)
10. Eunjung gets the boot from the drama she's supposed to be in.
Am I missing anything so far?
It almost as seems like fate wants them to collapse (whether if it's targeted towards CCM or T-ara itself however, is a matter of debate).
Creepy O.o

Just because she's the most mentally stable in T-ara doesn't mean she's invincible to whatever crap can happen to her and the group as a whole.
Eunjung, yet alone T-ara as a whole (save for Jiyeon in regards to the late 2010 incident) had never gone through something like this before and to assume that emotional distress didn't play a role in her sudden withdrawal from the drama cast is just idiocy. Her mom pretty much confirmed (or at least heavily suggested or implied) that Eunjung's having it incredibly rough and has even lost weight in recent times.

Jesus Christ, fellas, enough of the rage here.
What would YOU do if you were in the shoes of SBS or the PD of this drama? Hm?
Eunjung and the rest of T-ara had gone through a massive scandal - mind you, perhaps the biggest scandal of 2012 and probably of all female idol groups and it's not SBS's job to care for whatever they think. What right or say does a broadcasting company have in regards to T-ara's internal affairs?
SBS is a goddamn broadcasting company appealing to the masses' entertainment, not a bunch of humanitarian workers. To say you're going to boycott all their shows over something as this is just irrational idiocy at best and it's not like KBS and MBC are any better, considering both companies underwent two massive strikes over legitimate reasons. I say again - It's not SBS's job to be concerned about T-ara. That's CCM's job, which regardless to say is doing a pathetic job at it and is better off being run down by a whole company of tanks and bulldozers.
To say there's no actress capable of matching Eunjung's level is also sheer idiocy as well - Korea has a plentiful pool of actresses around, some who are worse, some who are better. For that person who's thought that Korean society is the same as how it's portrayed in dramas and TV programs - I won't even get started.
Regardless of Soyeon and Hyomin, it's simply unsuitable for all of T-ara to work at current circumstances - Eunjung can use this time to reflect, rest and refit both mentally and physically. If you people can't be patient with not seeing your favorite idols appearing on screen in TV, smartphone, tablet or computer, then by all means, that's just downright immature of you.

Jesus Christ, fellas, enough of the rage here.
What would YOU do if you were in the shoes of SBS or the PD of this drama? Hm?
Eunjung and the rest of T-ara had gone through a massive scandal - mind you, perhaps the biggest scandal of 2012 and probably of all female idol groups and it's not SBS's job to care for whatever they think. What right or say does a broadcasting company have in regards to T-ara's internal affairs?
SBS is a goddamn broadcasting company appealing to the masses' entertainment, not a bunch of humanitarian workers. To say you're going to boycott all their shows over something as this is just irrational idiocy at best and it's not like KBS and MBC are any better, considering both companies underwent two massive strikes over legitimate reasons. I say again - It's not SBS's job to be concerned about T-ara. That's CCM's job, which regardless to say is doing a pathetic job at it and is better off being run down by a whole company of tanks and bulldozers.
To say there's no actress capable of matching Eunjung's level is also sheer idiocy as well - Korea has a plentiful pool of actresses around, some who are worse, some who are better. For that person who's thought that Korean society is the same as how it's portrayed in dramas and TV programs - I won't even get started.
Regardless of Soyeon and Hyomin, it's simply unsuitable for all of T-ara to work at current circumstances - Eunjung can use this time to reflect, rest and refit both mentally and physically. If you people can't be patient with not seeing your favorite idols appearing on screen in TV, smartphone, tablet or computer, then by all means, that's just downright immature of you.

KKS has made it pretty damn clear that he doesn't care about any of the members except the money they bring in and that even a medical leave counts as being 'lazy' >___> For all we know, Soyeon is probably pressured to leave the hospital as soon as possible out of fear that she'd be punished for being 'lazy'.
Which is why I believe both the I-fans, K-fans, J-fans and pretty much everyone should take a much more bolder stance against him.
On the side note, what disgusts me even just as more than the bumbling imbeciles in AKP is that some certain people in Youtube, claiming to be T-ara's fans, actually think KKS and CCM aren't a bunch of incompetent whacktards >____>
It's like they've chosen to be completely ignorant of the members' health and awful working conditions and one in particular I recall, even implied it shouldn't matter because they make so much money (when in reality, most of the money from group activities goes to CCM instead >__>)
How they even call themselves fans is beyond me.

I consider this to be a rather awful decision at best.
T-ara's image is still not exactly great amongst the Korean public even now and all things considered, it doesn't help that groups like T-Jinyo are still around.
Who in their right mind would want to have T-ara release a new song merely weeks after going through perhaps one of the biggest idol scandals to ever occur in Kpop?
No, the best course of action is that they need to lay low until the public as a whole eases down rather than have such an early comeback. Are they willing to face black oceans, more waves of public scrutiny and even possibly physical attacks from antis?

I consider this to be a rather awful decision at best.
T-ara's image is still not exactly great amongst the Korean public even now and all things considered, it doesn't help that groups like T-Jinyo are still around.
Who in their right mind would want to have T-ara release a new song merely weeks after going through perhaps one of the biggest idol scandals to ever occur in Kpop?
No, the best course of action is that they need to lay low until the public as a whole eases down rather than have such an early comeback. Are they willing to face black oceans, more waves of public scrutiny and even possibly physical attacks from antis?

I consider this to be a rather awful decision at best.
T-ara's image is still not exactly great amongst the Korean public even now and all things considered, it doesn't help that groups like T-Jinyo are still around.
Who in their right mind would want to have T-ara release a new song merely weeks after going through perhaps one of the biggest idol scandals to ever occur in Kpop?
No, the best course of action is that they need to lay low until the public as a whole eases down rather than have such an early comeback. Are they willing to face black oceans, more waves of public scrutiny and even possibly physical attacks from antis?

I am highly opposed to this - at this pace, this is more or less a repitition of what occurred to Soyeon way back in March (remember performing in crutches anyone?) and even earlier than that, Eunjung's leg injury where she still performed LD and other activities as well as Jiyeon still performing RP despite her knee incident.
I may as well actually say CCM forced her out of hospital otherwise she'd face some serious punishment for being 'lazy'. We all know what KKS's silly definition of 'lazy' is. If anyone takes into account what Soyeon said in her recent interview, it is very well possible CCM took this as a jab towards themselves, much like what Soyeon did during the LD promotion when she admitted in TV that T-ara hadn't a single vacation since debut.
At such a condition, there's just absolutely no way anyone would want to go back out to the field, regardless of determination. Hell, not even a soldier would be crazy enough to be like this.

I am highly opposed to this - at this pace, this is more or less a repitition of what occurred to Soyeon way back in March (remember performing in crutches anyone?) and even earlier than that, Eunjung's leg injury where she still performed LD and other activities as well as Jiyeon still performing RP despite her knee incident.
I may as well actually say CCM forced her out of hospital otherwise she'd face some serious punishment for being 'lazy'. We all know what KKS's silly definition of 'lazy' is. If anyone takes into account what Soyeon said in her recent interview, it is very well possible CCM took this as a jab towards themselves, much like what Soyeon did during the LD promotion when she admitted in TV that T-ara hadn't a single vacation since debut.
At such a condition, there's just absolutely no way anyone would want to go back out to the field, regardless of determination. Hell, not even a soldier would be crazy enough to be like this.

I am highly opposed to this - at this pace, this is more or less a repitition of what occurred to Soyeon way back in March (remember performing in crutches anyone?) and even earlier than that, Eunjung's leg injury where she still performed LD and other activities as well as Jiyeon still performing RP despite her knee incident.
I may as well actually say CCM forced her out of hospital otherwise she'd face some serious punishment for being 'lazy'. We all know what KKS's silly definition of 'lazy' is. If anyone takes into account what Soyeon said in her recent interview, it is very well possible CCM took this as a jab towards themselves, much like what Soyeon did during the LD promotion when she admitted in TV that T-ara hadn't a single vacation since debut.
At such a condition, there's just absolutely no way anyone would want to go back out to the field, regardless of determination. Hell, not even a soldier would be crazy enough to be like this.

I am highly opposed to this - at this pace, this is more or less a repitition of what occurred to Soyeon way back in March (remember performing in crutches anyone?) and even earlier than that, Eunjung's leg injury where she still performed LD and other activities as well as Jiyeon still performing RP despite her knee incident.
I may as well actually say CCM forced her out of hospital otherwise she'd face some serious punishment for being 'lazy'. We all know what KKS's silly definition of 'lazy' is. If anyone takes into account what Soyeon said in her recent interview, it is very well possible CCM took this as a jab towards themselves, much like what Soyeon did during the LD promotion when she admitted in TV that T-ara hadn't a single vacation since debut.
At such a condition, there's just absolutely no way anyone would want to go back out to the field, regardless of determination. Hell, not even a soldier would be crazy enough to be like this.