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    T-GGYouth reacted to czakins in [12.08.05] True or not, the public will only believe what they want about T-ara's bullying situation   
    Don't the netizens know that what they're doing is also bullying? CYBER BULLYING YES. How cruel media can be. SMH.
    T-ara hwaiting! Don't worry karma will slap those people who's dragging you down! And I'll back up that karma if it needs some help \o/
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    T-GGYouth reacted to nathaniel in [12.08.05] True or not, the public will only believe what they want about T-ara's bullying situation   
    [12.08.05] True or not, the public will only believe what they want about T-ara's bullying situation





    "Tara-'s Hwayoung Was Not Bullied!" Written by Kim Yong Hyo, a reporter who has written many editorials on hot issues within the entertainment industry for the column [연예세상 비틀어보기]
    T-ara’s Hwayoung never once mentioned the word “bullying.” And in reality she was not bullied. Netizens are merely creating evidence of bullying. (Those who seek the truth about such ‘bullying evidence’ please see the post http://thetaratruth.tumblr.com). Nevertheless, the public now believes “Hwayoung was bullied” as the truth. Why is this? Probably because from the very beginning, many believed in the rumour that there is bullying among girl groups in the entertainment industry. But some activists used what is claimed as ‘evidence’ to cleverly fabricate stories and to stir up the innocent and trusting public.
    The first time I heard about the news of Hwayoung being bullied, I asked “So you’re saying that T-ara’s Hwayoung was bullied”? Because this it not the truth. Recently, I went with T-ara to their Tokyo Concert to gather information, and Hwayoung and the other members got along very well. Used in relation to her, the word ‘bullied’ is inappropriate. Born with a beautiful appearance to a relatively well-off family, she grew up lacking nothing. And also with her father’s vigorous support for his daughter to become an artist. (Personally finding his way to a large agency company for his twin daughters to become artists, and interfering with CCM with all his might, a father like this, if his daughter really was bullied, would he really stand by and do nothing?)
    Of course, because young girls are grouped together in girl groups, issues of envy and jealousy will come up sometimes. (This is true not only with T-ara, but also other girl groups). But to part of the public who are on a witch-hunt against T-ara, these issues were not small conflicts, but collective violence. I can guarantee, such incidents did not, and could not possibly exist. But the public believes that T-ara members are bullies, without a doubt. Therefore, some of the members’ past and private life etc have also been dragged out into the public for discussion. Even more cunningly, netizens have packaged and claimed their actions on the internet as done to protect the victim Hwayoung from the other members’ violence and bullying.
    T-ara is now fully wounded. But the cruel public continues to use their hatefully crafted products (i.e the ‘evidence’) to mock them. They truly see their own actions as legitimate and just. T-ara’s Hwayoung was not bullied. Even if there was conflict with Hwayoung, the level of intensity and strength compared to the bashing now done to Tara is not even one in a million.
    The public only believes what it wants to believe. The more frightening part is that they will never admit or accept any rebuttals to the contrary. Their reaction to this article will probably be, “Oh, he must have received money from Kim Kwangsoo.” But this is not a rebuttal. It is the truth that those who hate T-ara never want to believe.
    ***
    Source: http://news.nate.com/view/20120805n15192
    Translated via Chinese translations by: @kckclalala
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    T-GGYouth reacted to milkyway in [12.08.04] Backlash after T-ara appears on "Sebakwi", "We demand an apology"   
    Why Kqueen's are so stupid ? why they dont believe in their idols ? if you dont want T-ara give them to International queen's XD
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    T-GGYouth reacted to The_Thomas in [12.08.04] Backlash after T-ara appears on "Sebakwi", "We demand an apology"   
    hmmm.... The only thing I can say to the people demanding an apology is Grow up. That is just ridiculous...
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    T-GGYouth reacted to Rhys not Reese in [12.08.03] Core Contents Media will file seven criminal complaints against the media   
    CCM I can't believe you're actually doing something right about this situation.
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    T-GGYouth got a reaction from Aish0015 in [12.07.30] Kim Kwangsoo, "There is a possibility for Hwayoung to re-join.."   
    okay honestly this is getting too far.
    towards this case, though as shown the victim is Hwayoung, we're just outsiders and as fans/people who suddenly care about t-ara once this thing came up, we do NOT know anything about the truth.
    so let's see:
    If Hwayoung was really bullied by the other members
    Okay so assuming the other members are evil "bitches" like those people claim, I still don't get the whole story. tbh, who insults/bullies with 'fighting!' and '^^' lol. And besides, why would they want to publicize the fact they're bullying? It's the same as wanting to kill someone, and yet you go to the most crowded place of the country and using a loud speaker say "I'M GONNA KILL BLAHBLAHBLAH AT <TIME> AT <PLACE>." Like, just what in the world would they do that? At this point of time, they just came back, and their popularity is high, they are almost at the peak of their career. Why would they want to destroy this moment? Revealing that they bullied at this point of time just does NOT make sense at all.
    Also I remember from IY that Sunny said that Hyomin was actually introverted and that if you treat her nice she'll treat you nicely. So if she really treats Hwayoung this way, wouldn't there be a reason for it? like her changed dp said, "everything happens for a reason." Same for other members
    Hwayoung is the one in the wrong
    So now, assuming that Hwayoung did T-ara wrong. We all know that CCM has 'revealed Hwayoung's dark side'. I personally don't believe it. Maybe Hwayoung might have indeed done something to T-ara, but as for the 'throwing away her crutches and sitting on the floor, threatening to shout at the managers' part, if it was really done by her, wouldn't the fans and reporters have ' D: - ed' and the news would have been circulating all around the internet.
    Okay so to sum up, I personally think Hwayoung, 6-ara (minus Qri), KKS and the netizens are all at fault.
    Why Hwayoung? She could have cleared things up, but her tweets just made things worse. Doesn't this show that she doesn't really care for T-ara too.. but then again, maybe she was really hurt, so I guess she is like, pretty much not that much at fault? Unless she was the one who did T-ara wrong.
    Why 6-ara - Qri? Maybe they shouldn't have expressed their feelings on Twitter. Whatever they were referring to, they shouldn't post anything that might be incorrectly interpreted by people. Yes, what people post on Twitter is their own business, but as idols and with those netizens around, I'm afraid they can't. And they would be at fault if they really bully Hwayoung.
    Why KKS? Needless to say, KKS has poor planning. He can't handle things well. Taking two days to solve this can cause a lot of damage to T-ara. His sole money maker is able to just die because of this. Really pity T-ara for this. Not gonna elaborate on KKS, he simply sucks I would say. And kicking Hwayoung out then wanting Hwayoung to apologize then come back is just crap. Be it the kicking her out part or wanting her to apologize, even if she was at fault, this would just cause even more harm to T-ara.
    Okay lastly the netizens, this whole thing is blown out of proportion by them. Maybe nothing would have been wrong if not for them. and they are unreasonable, esp the one saying that hyomin accidentally/purposely hit hwayoung WHEN RIGHT IN THE VIDEO HYOMIN HUGGED HWAYOUNG AND SAID SORRY. and the one of boram breaking the umbrella, hmm interesting. she didn't smash the whole umbrella right...
    KKS is making like the staff members want Hwayoung to leave but the T-ara members want her to stay. IDK what's true now, everything is just so complicated and confusing. but now we know, his major announcements are always negative. Maybe if T-ara was under another company things would have been better. Or if they debuted with a graduation concept like After School.
    Nonetheless, as QUEEN'S, though it's kinda tough yet exciting to be one, we should support them. Whatever Hwayoung does, it doesn't change the fact she was from T-ara, and so we should support her in what she does. For the T-ara girls, we should support them too. I believe this might be their hardest time of their career, and they might be really hurt by the antis.
    Until we know exactly who's at fault, let's not take sides and support them all. Only if proven that <whoever> is at fault should we take sides. Let's just protect our girls.
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    T-GGYouth got a reaction from sacrod in [12.07.30] Kim Kwangsoo, "There is a possibility for Hwayoung to re-join.."   
    okay honestly this is getting too far.
    towards this case, though as shown the victim is Hwayoung, we're just outsiders and as fans/people who suddenly care about t-ara once this thing came up, we do NOT know anything about the truth.
    so let's see:
    If Hwayoung was really bullied by the other members
    Okay so assuming the other members are evil "bitches" like those people claim, I still don't get the whole story. tbh, who insults/bullies with 'fighting!' and '^^' lol. And besides, why would they want to publicize the fact they're bullying? It's the same as wanting to kill someone, and yet you go to the most crowded place of the country and using a loud speaker say "I'M GONNA KILL BLAHBLAHBLAH AT <TIME> AT <PLACE>." Like, just what in the world would they do that? At this point of time, they just came back, and their popularity is high, they are almost at the peak of their career. Why would they want to destroy this moment? Revealing that they bullied at this point of time just does NOT make sense at all.
    Also I remember from IY that Sunny said that Hyomin was actually introverted and that if you treat her nice she'll treat you nicely. So if she really treats Hwayoung this way, wouldn't there be a reason for it? like her changed dp said, "everything happens for a reason." Same for other members
    Hwayoung is the one in the wrong
    So now, assuming that Hwayoung did T-ara wrong. We all know that CCM has 'revealed Hwayoung's dark side'. I personally don't believe it. Maybe Hwayoung might have indeed done something to T-ara, but as for the 'throwing away her crutches and sitting on the floor, threatening to shout at the managers' part, if it was really done by her, wouldn't the fans and reporters have ' D: - ed' and the news would have been circulating all around the internet.
    Okay so to sum up, I personally think Hwayoung, 6-ara (minus Qri), KKS and the netizens are all at fault.
    Why Hwayoung? She could have cleared things up, but her tweets just made things worse. Doesn't this show that she doesn't really care for T-ara too.. but then again, maybe she was really hurt, so I guess she is like, pretty much not that much at fault? Unless she was the one who did T-ara wrong.
    Why 6-ara - Qri? Maybe they shouldn't have expressed their feelings on Twitter. Whatever they were referring to, they shouldn't post anything that might be incorrectly interpreted by people. Yes, what people post on Twitter is their own business, but as idols and with those netizens around, I'm afraid they can't. And they would be at fault if they really bully Hwayoung.
    Why KKS? Needless to say, KKS has poor planning. He can't handle things well. Taking two days to solve this can cause a lot of damage to T-ara. His sole money maker is able to just die because of this. Really pity T-ara for this. Not gonna elaborate on KKS, he simply sucks I would say. And kicking Hwayoung out then wanting Hwayoung to apologize then come back is just crap. Be it the kicking her out part or wanting her to apologize, even if she was at fault, this would just cause even more harm to T-ara.
    Okay lastly the netizens, this whole thing is blown out of proportion by them. Maybe nothing would have been wrong if not for them. and they are unreasonable, esp the one saying that hyomin accidentally/purposely hit hwayoung WHEN RIGHT IN THE VIDEO HYOMIN HUGGED HWAYOUNG AND SAID SORRY. and the one of boram breaking the umbrella, hmm interesting. she didn't smash the whole umbrella right...
    KKS is making like the staff members want Hwayoung to leave but the T-ara members want her to stay. IDK what's true now, everything is just so complicated and confusing. but now we know, his major announcements are always negative. Maybe if T-ara was under another company things would have been better. Or if they debuted with a graduation concept like After School.
    Nonetheless, as QUEEN'S, though it's kinda tough yet exciting to be one, we should support them. Whatever Hwayoung does, it doesn't change the fact she was from T-ara, and so we should support her in what she does. For the T-ara girls, we should support them too. I believe this might be their hardest time of their career, and they might be really hurt by the antis.
    Until we know exactly who's at fault, let's not take sides and support them all. Only if proven that <whoever> is at fault should we take sides. Let's just protect our girls.
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    T-GGYouth got a reaction from maskingmark in [12.07.30] Kim Kwangsoo, "There is a possibility for Hwayoung to re-join.."   
    okay honestly this is getting too far.
    towards this case, though as shown the victim is Hwayoung, we're just outsiders and as fans/people who suddenly care about t-ara once this thing came up, we do NOT know anything about the truth.
    so let's see:
    If Hwayoung was really bullied by the other members
    Okay so assuming the other members are evil "bitches" like those people claim, I still don't get the whole story. tbh, who insults/bullies with 'fighting!' and '^^' lol. And besides, why would they want to publicize the fact they're bullying? It's the same as wanting to kill someone, and yet you go to the most crowded place of the country and using a loud speaker say "I'M GONNA KILL BLAHBLAHBLAH AT <TIME> AT <PLACE>." Like, just what in the world would they do that? At this point of time, they just came back, and their popularity is high, they are almost at the peak of their career. Why would they want to destroy this moment? Revealing that they bullied at this point of time just does NOT make sense at all.
    Also I remember from IY that Sunny said that Hyomin was actually introverted and that if you treat her nice she'll treat you nicely. So if she really treats Hwayoung this way, wouldn't there be a reason for it? like her changed dp said, "everything happens for a reason." Same for other members
    Hwayoung is the one in the wrong
    So now, assuming that Hwayoung did T-ara wrong. We all know that CCM has 'revealed Hwayoung's dark side'. I personally don't believe it. Maybe Hwayoung might have indeed done something to T-ara, but as for the 'throwing away her crutches and sitting on the floor, threatening to shout at the managers' part, if it was really done by her, wouldn't the fans and reporters have ' D: - ed' and the news would have been circulating all around the internet.
    Okay so to sum up, I personally think Hwayoung, 6-ara (minus Qri), KKS and the netizens are all at fault.
    Why Hwayoung? She could have cleared things up, but her tweets just made things worse. Doesn't this show that she doesn't really care for T-ara too.. but then again, maybe she was really hurt, so I guess she is like, pretty much not that much at fault? Unless she was the one who did T-ara wrong.
    Why 6-ara - Qri? Maybe they shouldn't have expressed their feelings on Twitter. Whatever they were referring to, they shouldn't post anything that might be incorrectly interpreted by people. Yes, what people post on Twitter is their own business, but as idols and with those netizens around, I'm afraid they can't. And they would be at fault if they really bully Hwayoung.
    Why KKS? Needless to say, KKS has poor planning. He can't handle things well. Taking two days to solve this can cause a lot of damage to T-ara. His sole money maker is able to just die because of this. Really pity T-ara for this. Not gonna elaborate on KKS, he simply sucks I would say. And kicking Hwayoung out then wanting Hwayoung to apologize then come back is just crap. Be it the kicking her out part or wanting her to apologize, even if she was at fault, this would just cause even more harm to T-ara.
    Okay lastly the netizens, this whole thing is blown out of proportion by them. Maybe nothing would have been wrong if not for them. and they are unreasonable, esp the one saying that hyomin accidentally/purposely hit hwayoung WHEN RIGHT IN THE VIDEO HYOMIN HUGGED HWAYOUNG AND SAID SORRY. and the one of boram breaking the umbrella, hmm interesting. she didn't smash the whole umbrella right...
    KKS is making like the staff members want Hwayoung to leave but the T-ara members want her to stay. IDK what's true now, everything is just so complicated and confusing. but now we know, his major announcements are always negative. Maybe if T-ara was under another company things would have been better. Or if they debuted with a graduation concept like After School.
    Nonetheless, as QUEEN'S, though it's kinda tough yet exciting to be one, we should support them. Whatever Hwayoung does, it doesn't change the fact she was from T-ara, and so we should support her in what she does. For the T-ara girls, we should support them too. I believe this might be their hardest time of their career, and they might be really hurt by the antis.
    Until we know exactly who's at fault, let's not take sides and support them all. Only if proven that <whoever> is at fault should we take sides. Let's just protect our girls.
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    T-GGYouth got a reaction from scelesters in [12.07.30] Kim Kwangsoo, "There is a possibility for Hwayoung to re-join.."   
    okay honestly this is getting too far.
    towards this case, though as shown the victim is Hwayoung, we're just outsiders and as fans/people who suddenly care about t-ara once this thing came up, we do NOT know anything about the truth.
    so let's see:
    If Hwayoung was really bullied by the other members
    Okay so assuming the other members are evil "bitches" like those people claim, I still don't get the whole story. tbh, who insults/bullies with 'fighting!' and '^^' lol. And besides, why would they want to publicize the fact they're bullying? It's the same as wanting to kill someone, and yet you go to the most crowded place of the country and using a loud speaker say "I'M GONNA KILL BLAHBLAHBLAH AT <TIME> AT <PLACE>." Like, just what in the world would they do that? At this point of time, they just came back, and their popularity is high, they are almost at the peak of their career. Why would they want to destroy this moment? Revealing that they bullied at this point of time just does NOT make sense at all.
    Also I remember from IY that Sunny said that Hyomin was actually introverted and that if you treat her nice she'll treat you nicely. So if she really treats Hwayoung this way, wouldn't there be a reason for it? like her changed dp said, "everything happens for a reason." Same for other members
    Hwayoung is the one in the wrong
    So now, assuming that Hwayoung did T-ara wrong. We all know that CCM has 'revealed Hwayoung's dark side'. I personally don't believe it. Maybe Hwayoung might have indeed done something to T-ara, but as for the 'throwing away her crutches and sitting on the floor, threatening to shout at the managers' part, if it was really done by her, wouldn't the fans and reporters have ' D: - ed' and the news would have been circulating all around the internet.
    Okay so to sum up, I personally think Hwayoung, 6-ara (minus Qri), KKS and the netizens are all at fault.
    Why Hwayoung? She could have cleared things up, but her tweets just made things worse. Doesn't this show that she doesn't really care for T-ara too.. but then again, maybe she was really hurt, so I guess she is like, pretty much not that much at fault? Unless she was the one who did T-ara wrong.
    Why 6-ara - Qri? Maybe they shouldn't have expressed their feelings on Twitter. Whatever they were referring to, they shouldn't post anything that might be incorrectly interpreted by people. Yes, what people post on Twitter is their own business, but as idols and with those netizens around, I'm afraid they can't. And they would be at fault if they really bully Hwayoung.
    Why KKS? Needless to say, KKS has poor planning. He can't handle things well. Taking two days to solve this can cause a lot of damage to T-ara. His sole money maker is able to just die because of this. Really pity T-ara for this. Not gonna elaborate on KKS, he simply sucks I would say. And kicking Hwayoung out then wanting Hwayoung to apologize then come back is just crap. Be it the kicking her out part or wanting her to apologize, even if she was at fault, this would just cause even more harm to T-ara.
    Okay lastly the netizens, this whole thing is blown out of proportion by them. Maybe nothing would have been wrong if not for them. and they are unreasonable, esp the one saying that hyomin accidentally/purposely hit hwayoung WHEN RIGHT IN THE VIDEO HYOMIN HUGGED HWAYOUNG AND SAID SORRY. and the one of boram breaking the umbrella, hmm interesting. she didn't smash the whole umbrella right...
    KKS is making like the staff members want Hwayoung to leave but the T-ara members want her to stay. IDK what's true now, everything is just so complicated and confusing. but now we know, his major announcements are always negative. Maybe if T-ara was under another company things would have been better. Or if they debuted with a graduation concept like After School.
    Nonetheless, as QUEEN'S, though it's kinda tough yet exciting to be one, we should support them. Whatever Hwayoung does, it doesn't change the fact she was from T-ara, and so we should support her in what she does. For the T-ara girls, we should support them too. I believe this might be their hardest time of their career, and they might be really hurt by the antis.
    Until we know exactly who's at fault, let's not take sides and support them all. Only if proven that <whoever> is at fault should we take sides. Let's just protect our girls.
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    T-GGYouth got a reaction from ParkYeonSisters in [12.07.30] Kim Kwangsoo, "There is a possibility for Hwayoung to re-join.."   
    okay honestly this is getting too far.
    towards this case, though as shown the victim is Hwayoung, we're just outsiders and as fans/people who suddenly care about t-ara once this thing came up, we do NOT know anything about the truth.
    so let's see:
    If Hwayoung was really bullied by the other members
    Okay so assuming the other members are evil "bitches" like those people claim, I still don't get the whole story. tbh, who insults/bullies with 'fighting!' and '^^' lol. And besides, why would they want to publicize the fact they're bullying? It's the same as wanting to kill someone, and yet you go to the most crowded place of the country and using a loud speaker say "I'M GONNA KILL BLAHBLAHBLAH AT <TIME> AT <PLACE>." Like, just what in the world would they do that? At this point of time, they just came back, and their popularity is high, they are almost at the peak of their career. Why would they want to destroy this moment? Revealing that they bullied at this point of time just does NOT make sense at all.
    Also I remember from IY that Sunny said that Hyomin was actually introverted and that if you treat her nice she'll treat you nicely. So if she really treats Hwayoung this way, wouldn't there be a reason for it? like her changed dp said, "everything happens for a reason." Same for other members
    Hwayoung is the one in the wrong
    So now, assuming that Hwayoung did T-ara wrong. We all know that CCM has 'revealed Hwayoung's dark side'. I personally don't believe it. Maybe Hwayoung might have indeed done something to T-ara, but as for the 'throwing away her crutches and sitting on the floor, threatening to shout at the managers' part, if it was really done by her, wouldn't the fans and reporters have ' D: - ed' and the news would have been circulating all around the internet.
    Okay so to sum up, I personally think Hwayoung, 6-ara (minus Qri), KKS and the netizens are all at fault.
    Why Hwayoung? She could have cleared things up, but her tweets just made things worse. Doesn't this show that she doesn't really care for T-ara too.. but then again, maybe she was really hurt, so I guess she is like, pretty much not that much at fault? Unless she was the one who did T-ara wrong.
    Why 6-ara - Qri? Maybe they shouldn't have expressed their feelings on Twitter. Whatever they were referring to, they shouldn't post anything that might be incorrectly interpreted by people. Yes, what people post on Twitter is their own business, but as idols and with those netizens around, I'm afraid they can't. And they would be at fault if they really bully Hwayoung.
    Why KKS? Needless to say, KKS has poor planning. He can't handle things well. Taking two days to solve this can cause a lot of damage to T-ara. His sole money maker is able to just die because of this. Really pity T-ara for this. Not gonna elaborate on KKS, he simply sucks I would say. And kicking Hwayoung out then wanting Hwayoung to apologize then come back is just crap. Be it the kicking her out part or wanting her to apologize, even if she was at fault, this would just cause even more harm to T-ara.
    Okay lastly the netizens, this whole thing is blown out of proportion by them. Maybe nothing would have been wrong if not for them. and they are unreasonable, esp the one saying that hyomin accidentally/purposely hit hwayoung WHEN RIGHT IN THE VIDEO HYOMIN HUGGED HWAYOUNG AND SAID SORRY. and the one of boram breaking the umbrella, hmm interesting. she didn't smash the whole umbrella right...
    KKS is making like the staff members want Hwayoung to leave but the T-ara members want her to stay. IDK what's true now, everything is just so complicated and confusing. but now we know, his major announcements are always negative. Maybe if T-ara was under another company things would have been better. Or if they debuted with a graduation concept like After School.
    Nonetheless, as QUEEN'S, though it's kinda tough yet exciting to be one, we should support them. Whatever Hwayoung does, it doesn't change the fact she was from T-ara, and so we should support her in what she does. For the T-ara girls, we should support them too. I believe this might be their hardest time of their career, and they might be really hurt by the antis.
    Until we know exactly who's at fault, let's not take sides and support them all. Only if proven that <whoever> is at fault should we take sides. Let's just protect our girls.
  11. Like
    T-GGYouth got a reaction from AznMunky in [12.07.30] Kim Kwangsoo, "There is a possibility for Hwayoung to re-join.."   
    okay honestly this is getting too far.
    towards this case, though as shown the victim is Hwayoung, we're just outsiders and as fans/people who suddenly care about t-ara once this thing came up, we do NOT know anything about the truth.
    so let's see:
    If Hwayoung was really bullied by the other members
    Okay so assuming the other members are evil "bitches" like those people claim, I still don't get the whole story. tbh, who insults/bullies with 'fighting!' and '^^' lol. And besides, why would they want to publicize the fact they're bullying? It's the same as wanting to kill someone, and yet you go to the most crowded place of the country and using a loud speaker say "I'M GONNA KILL BLAHBLAHBLAH AT <TIME> AT <PLACE>." Like, just what in the world would they do that? At this point of time, they just came back, and their popularity is high, they are almost at the peak of their career. Why would they want to destroy this moment? Revealing that they bullied at this point of time just does NOT make sense at all.
    Also I remember from IY that Sunny said that Hyomin was actually introverted and that if you treat her nice she'll treat you nicely. So if she really treats Hwayoung this way, wouldn't there be a reason for it? like her changed dp said, "everything happens for a reason." Same for other members
    Hwayoung is the one in the wrong
    So now, assuming that Hwayoung did T-ara wrong. We all know that CCM has 'revealed Hwayoung's dark side'. I personally don't believe it. Maybe Hwayoung might have indeed done something to T-ara, but as for the 'throwing away her crutches and sitting on the floor, threatening to shout at the managers' part, if it was really done by her, wouldn't the fans and reporters have ' D: - ed' and the news would have been circulating all around the internet.
    Okay so to sum up, I personally think Hwayoung, 6-ara (minus Qri), KKS and the netizens are all at fault.
    Why Hwayoung? She could have cleared things up, but her tweets just made things worse. Doesn't this show that she doesn't really care for T-ara too.. but then again, maybe she was really hurt, so I guess she is like, pretty much not that much at fault? Unless she was the one who did T-ara wrong.
    Why 6-ara - Qri? Maybe they shouldn't have expressed their feelings on Twitter. Whatever they were referring to, they shouldn't post anything that might be incorrectly interpreted by people. Yes, what people post on Twitter is their own business, but as idols and with those netizens around, I'm afraid they can't. And they would be at fault if they really bully Hwayoung.
    Why KKS? Needless to say, KKS has poor planning. He can't handle things well. Taking two days to solve this can cause a lot of damage to T-ara. His sole money maker is able to just die because of this. Really pity T-ara for this. Not gonna elaborate on KKS, he simply sucks I would say. And kicking Hwayoung out then wanting Hwayoung to apologize then come back is just crap. Be it the kicking her out part or wanting her to apologize, even if she was at fault, this would just cause even more harm to T-ara.
    Okay lastly the netizens, this whole thing is blown out of proportion by them. Maybe nothing would have been wrong if not for them. and they are unreasonable, esp the one saying that hyomin accidentally/purposely hit hwayoung WHEN RIGHT IN THE VIDEO HYOMIN HUGGED HWAYOUNG AND SAID SORRY. and the one of boram breaking the umbrella, hmm interesting. she didn't smash the whole umbrella right...
    KKS is making like the staff members want Hwayoung to leave but the T-ara members want her to stay. IDK what's true now, everything is just so complicated and confusing. but now we know, his major announcements are always negative. Maybe if T-ara was under another company things would have been better. Or if they debuted with a graduation concept like After School.
    Nonetheless, as QUEEN'S, though it's kinda tough yet exciting to be one, we should support them. Whatever Hwayoung does, it doesn't change the fact she was from T-ara, and so we should support her in what she does. For the T-ara girls, we should support them too. I believe this might be their hardest time of their career, and they might be really hurt by the antis.
    Until we know exactly who's at fault, let's not take sides and support them all. Only if proven that <whoever> is at fault should we take sides. Let's just protect our girls.
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    T-GGYouth got a reaction from itoko in [12.07.30] Kim Kwangsoo, "There is a possibility for Hwayoung to re-join.."   
    okay honestly this is getting too far.
    towards this case, though as shown the victim is Hwayoung, we're just outsiders and as fans/people who suddenly care about t-ara once this thing came up, we do NOT know anything about the truth.
    so let's see:
    If Hwayoung was really bullied by the other members
    Okay so assuming the other members are evil "bitches" like those people claim, I still don't get the whole story. tbh, who insults/bullies with 'fighting!' and '^^' lol. And besides, why would they want to publicize the fact they're bullying? It's the same as wanting to kill someone, and yet you go to the most crowded place of the country and using a loud speaker say "I'M GONNA KILL BLAHBLAHBLAH AT <TIME> AT <PLACE>." Like, just what in the world would they do that? At this point of time, they just came back, and their popularity is high, they are almost at the peak of their career. Why would they want to destroy this moment? Revealing that they bullied at this point of time just does NOT make sense at all.
    Also I remember from IY that Sunny said that Hyomin was actually introverted and that if you treat her nice she'll treat you nicely. So if she really treats Hwayoung this way, wouldn't there be a reason for it? like her changed dp said, "everything happens for a reason." Same for other members
    Hwayoung is the one in the wrong
    So now, assuming that Hwayoung did T-ara wrong. We all know that CCM has 'revealed Hwayoung's dark side'. I personally don't believe it. Maybe Hwayoung might have indeed done something to T-ara, but as for the 'throwing away her crutches and sitting on the floor, threatening to shout at the managers' part, if it was really done by her, wouldn't the fans and reporters have ' D: - ed' and the news would have been circulating all around the internet.
    Okay so to sum up, I personally think Hwayoung, 6-ara (minus Qri), KKS and the netizens are all at fault.
    Why Hwayoung? She could have cleared things up, but her tweets just made things worse. Doesn't this show that she doesn't really care for T-ara too.. but then again, maybe she was really hurt, so I guess she is like, pretty much not that much at fault? Unless she was the one who did T-ara wrong.
    Why 6-ara - Qri? Maybe they shouldn't have expressed their feelings on Twitter. Whatever they were referring to, they shouldn't post anything that might be incorrectly interpreted by people. Yes, what people post on Twitter is their own business, but as idols and with those netizens around, I'm afraid they can't. And they would be at fault if they really bully Hwayoung.
    Why KKS? Needless to say, KKS has poor planning. He can't handle things well. Taking two days to solve this can cause a lot of damage to T-ara. His sole money maker is able to just die because of this. Really pity T-ara for this. Not gonna elaborate on KKS, he simply sucks I would say. And kicking Hwayoung out then wanting Hwayoung to apologize then come back is just crap. Be it the kicking her out part or wanting her to apologize, even if she was at fault, this would just cause even more harm to T-ara.
    Okay lastly the netizens, this whole thing is blown out of proportion by them. Maybe nothing would have been wrong if not for them. and they are unreasonable, esp the one saying that hyomin accidentally/purposely hit hwayoung WHEN RIGHT IN THE VIDEO HYOMIN HUGGED HWAYOUNG AND SAID SORRY. and the one of boram breaking the umbrella, hmm interesting. she didn't smash the whole umbrella right...
    KKS is making like the staff members want Hwayoung to leave but the T-ara members want her to stay. IDK what's true now, everything is just so complicated and confusing. but now we know, his major announcements are always negative. Maybe if T-ara was under another company things would have been better. Or if they debuted with a graduation concept like After School.
    Nonetheless, as QUEEN'S, though it's kinda tough yet exciting to be one, we should support them. Whatever Hwayoung does, it doesn't change the fact she was from T-ara, and so we should support her in what she does. For the T-ara girls, we should support them too. I believe this might be their hardest time of their career, and they might be really hurt by the antis.
    Until we know exactly who's at fault, let's not take sides and support them all. Only if proven that <whoever> is at fault should we take sides. Let's just protect our girls.
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    T-GGYouth reacted to maknae23 in [12.07.28] Core Contents Media's CEO to make a very big announcement regarding T-ara on the 30th   
    I am trying REALLY REALLY REALLY hard not to post any comments and speculations about this matter before the "truth" which will be revealed tomorrow but I just can't.
    I found it amusing how most of you are so analytical here. Whatever small trivial matters were even brought up i.e how Jiyeon didn't "interact" with Hwayoung when she was playing bowling and how she "insulted" Hwayoung when Hwayoung was reading a book in Star Life Theater. Oh, you guys forgot that Jiyeon called Hwayoung "Babo" in Pretty Boys Ep 10. I am sorry but I find all these to be normal for friends. Don't you have any friends who will ignore you when you talk too much or call you stupid when you are acting as one? Well, maybe all these normal situations don't apply to IDOLS who are deemed and portrayed to be PERFECT FLAWLESS GODDESS?
    Anyway, I don't deny the fact that Hwayoung may seem to be not very close with the original T-ara and often seen to be isolated. But isn't it normal? Let's say in a group of friends, you have known A for 10 years and B for 5 years. A and B are still your friends but sometimes it's human behavior to lean towards people who have been through thick and thin with you and people who understand you very very well. That's EunJiMin for me. And when someone enters your "circle" (Hwayoung), of course you will find it hard to adjust initially but after all those years of being together, I am sure there will be a certain bond even if it's not that strong compared to the first few friends.
    You guys forgot that Hyomin hugged Hwayoung for countless number of times, Jiyeon fed Hwayoung in Pretty Boys, Hwayoung hugged Jiyeon during One Million Quiz Show and Hwayoung danced in front of Jiyeon and finally hugged her during their fan club opening ceremony. I am sorry that I can only quote certain examples cause I don't normally follow all the "couplets" but you don't need to cause I am sure all of us or maybe most of us know and acknowledge all these interactions. If they are indeed faking all these moments, oh well T-ara deserves the Grammy Awards for Best Actress and Best Supporting Actress. What I want to say is some of you are digging those moments when EunJiMin were not interacting with Hwayoung but you guys neglect those moments when EunJiMin were having fun with Hwayoung.
    I seriously have no idea how this topic of bullying came in and some of you are so quick in making judgement on EunJiMin and Hwayoung. I don't deny the fact that SOMETHING is going on but Hey, nothing is confirmed, yet. Call me delusional but before anything is confirmed, I wouldn't dare to mention anything like, "Hwayoung should be blamed" or "EunJiMin are just fake b!tches" or "Soyeon and Boram should have kept their mouth shut" because I am not in their shoes, I will never ever know the true situation and WHO AM I to judge them? As a fan? If you are disappointed in them, then stop being a fan and go find someone else to idolize.
    Really had a fun time spazzing about the announcement on the 30th in the shoutbox yesterday. So by thinking positively, tomorrow's announcement will be either KKS announcing his marriage with Qri (ewww ...) or Boram/Qri/Soyeon getting married or Ji and Hwa doing a subunit or Queen Ice Qri as our new leader (YAY!!).
    Everyone should just chillax. Drink a cup of coffee and PEACE.
    EDIT : Happy 3rd Anniversary to T-ara !! May the years get longer.
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    T-GGYouth reacted to min young in [12.07.28] Core Contents Media's CEO to make a very big announcement regarding T-ara on the 30th   
    we don't know the truth so why we must think hard about it....i love 7-ara but this thing make me want to hate hwayoung...hyomin got bashing everywhere....who knows maybe right now hwayoung feel happy coz fans are on her side...if i said this hwayoung fans will angry right?..and that what we feel when our bias got bashing...please don't bash me..i'm so tired reading those comment from immature people...think logically if thing happen like this 'hwayoung tweet about t-ara member ' such hypocrite people will said 'fake hwayoung...poor t-ara member'...come on who are u to judge other people
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    T-GGYouth reacted to ONIEMIA in [12.07.28] Core Contents Media's CEO to make a very big announcement regarding T-ara on the 30th   
    I'm not Korean and not read Korean statement about the matter. And I know people start bashing Jiyeon, Eunjung & Hyomin about the twitter......Before you all start saying that i'm bias for the big 3 just read it first. This isn’t a biased opinion at all. As much as I may like T-ara but I’m not a die hard fan of them. i've just starting as Jiyeon, eunjung & hyomin fan and I have nothing against Hwayoung. This is what I personally think on the matter. The CEO should had left T-ara as just the 6 of them. If he really wanted more girls in a group, he should had created another girl group instead of bringing in additional members. Let them make their own name for themselves. Plus, it seems like Hwayoung is playing victim role right now and seeking support for something the fans aren’t even sure what’s going on. Instead of being on twitter, she should just wait until their CEO makes a statement. Wait until everything cools off and hope for the better. Then why is this happened? We should think about it..... hwa posting all those tweets when they’re already in a somewhat controversy right now? If she really think about T-ara she Shouldn’t post anything on those social media and the rest of the members just lay low for awhile? Or maybe Hwayoung misunderstood and thought it was for her... and I don't personally think that it was addressed to Hwayoung. That’s just make more war between their fans since the fans don’t really have a clue what’s going on, and what does 3 member really meant when they were writing those tweets. Also, those who are bashing Eunjung,Hyomin and Jiyeon right now, do you even know the whole story about the tweets and What they meant and who they were for? We are only assuming things right now because of Hwayoung’s injury. So we bash them now, but what if we were wrong? I surely hope that we don’t try to be hypocrite and say that we knew that they wouldn’t say something like that after all the bashing we were doing. Hwayoungahhhhhh you should clear & explain the whole thing, so the fans can calm down and for them to decide what side to take regarding this matter. I'm sure Eunjung, Jiyeon and Hyomin cry about this matter.....Jiyeon as always got bashing............and got hard time since debut as her fan i'm always.........Hwaiting....May god bless...just wait until the CEO makes whatever statement he has to make regarding this twitter controversy.
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    T-GGYouth reacted to ParkYeonSisters in [12.07.28] Core Contents Media's CEO to make a very big announcement regarding T-ara on the 30th   
    Another freaking BIG announcement! I'm kinda getting tired of hearing something like this from CCM regarding T-ara. Can't they make up their mind for once which direction they are going to head with this group?!
    Personally, I would be really happy if they announce that Dani won't join T-ara anymore and not about removal of members, reprimanding the girls and shaming them publicly, again.
    Just read the AKP article about the tweets. Antis and bashers are having a feast in there, but since no one really knows what happens off stage and off cam, no one is in any position to pass judgment on the girls.
    I feel like us fans have gone through so much also while supporting T-ara. I'm sure we'll also get past this.
    Supporting Boram, Qri, Soyeon, Eunjung, Hyomin, Hwayoung and Jiyeon all the way!
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    T-GGYouth got a reaction from GladysC in [12.07.14] T-ara's new member Areum, "I felt burdened and didn't want to damage the group by joining"   
    Honestly, I've tried to accept her but it's kinda not working.
    Oh but towards this release of DBD, I feel that the lines for Boram and Qri are more important (and they sing it live so well!). But I can't help to think that KKS probably wants to show us he has the power over T-ara or something. I've already accepted Hwayoung of course, but I realized in the song and Don't Leave, Hwayoung and Areum has more lines than those originally in 6-ara.
    Oh well, but I guess we can't do anything about some things so I'll continue trying to accept the new members. Oh and yeah, like kenzo says, I can't stand how the Areum (and soon, Dani) just get the official fan club so easily. Hwayoung worked since 2010 for it and Boram, Qri, Soyeon, Eunjung, Hyomin and Jiyeon worked for it since 2009.
    And I don't feel the need for new members. Yes, Areum can sing well and all, but can't 7-ara already do that? From Lovey Dovey, Hyomin has actually showed she can sing so well. Eunjung can sing well too. Just have a better split of lines and you get a better t-ara (vocally). Why add members? If KKS really wants to debut Dani and Areum, why not add them into a new girl group, or put them into the recently-debuted Gang Kiz?
    I really think what KKS is doing isn't so simple as adding members after all. Nonetheless, T-ara fighting
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    T-GGYouth got a reaction from Huevogro in [12.07.14] T-ara's new member Areum, "I felt burdened and didn't want to damage the group by joining"   
    Honestly, I've tried to accept her but it's kinda not working.
    Oh but towards this release of DBD, I feel that the lines for Boram and Qri are more important (and they sing it live so well!). But I can't help to think that KKS probably wants to show us he has the power over T-ara or something. I've already accepted Hwayoung of course, but I realized in the song and Don't Leave, Hwayoung and Areum has more lines than those originally in 6-ara.
    Oh well, but I guess we can't do anything about some things so I'll continue trying to accept the new members. Oh and yeah, like kenzo says, I can't stand how the Areum (and soon, Dani) just get the official fan club so easily. Hwayoung worked since 2010 for it and Boram, Qri, Soyeon, Eunjung, Hyomin and Jiyeon worked for it since 2009.
    And I don't feel the need for new members. Yes, Areum can sing well and all, but can't 7-ara already do that? From Lovey Dovey, Hyomin has actually showed she can sing so well. Eunjung can sing well too. Just have a better split of lines and you get a better t-ara (vocally). Why add members? If KKS really wants to debut Dani and Areum, why not add them into a new girl group, or put them into the recently-debuted Gang Kiz?
    I really think what KKS is doing isn't so simple as adding members after all. Nonetheless, T-ara fighting
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    T-GGYouth reacted to Jeon BoRam in [12.07.14] T-ara's new member Areum, "I felt burdened and didn't want to damage the group by joining"   
    as long as you can increase t-ara reputation you will be safe . i welcomed you into t-ara girl group . if anyone from original t-ara membrs is out . i will blame it on you . sorry . just worried about the unnie like boram and qri .
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    T-GGYouth reacted to Jiyeon 지연 in [12.07.14] T-ara's new member Areum, "I felt burdened and didn't want to damage the group by joining"   
    In conclusion, T-ara is just unlucky to be in CCM.
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    T-GGYouth reacted to kenzo in [12.07.14] T-ara's new member Areum, "I felt burdened and didn't want to damage the group by joining"   
    If you don't want to damage T-ara then gtfo T-ara
    The fact that she can easily join the official fanclub ceremony that T-ara works so hard for to get really angers me.
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    T-GGYouth reacted to raven_potter in [12.07.14] T-ara's new member Areum, "I felt burdened and didn't want to damage the group by joining"   
    I think the biggest question about the two new members would be is what can they contribute to the group that the others haven't. I mean yes ahreum is a good singer but from what ive listened the high notes part that was given to her, eunjung can do it. Its not that i'm dissing her or anything just that i guess expectations are a bit high because off the way she joined t-ara
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    T-GGYouth reacted to CrystalJK in [12.07.14] T-ara's new member Areum, "I felt burdened and didn't want to damage the group by joining"   
    seriously i really dont like areum
    i dont like the way she performs
    but i hope she can prove herself and show queens that she deserves to be in T-ara
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    T-GGYouth reacted to milkyway in [12.07.14] T-ara's new member Areum, "I felt burdened and didn't want to damage the group by joining"   
    I dont know if my post would be warned or not but still wanna say.
    I've try my best but cannot welcome her
    If the one who made this interview join our fandom he would see how messy we are now.
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    T-GGYouth reacted to LeslieJoon143 in [12.06.06] T-ara's Dani personally scouted on the streets by Kim Kwangsoo, "An unrefined jewel"   
    1.Stop mentioned her height 167cm (it's kinda insulting my height as well as SoRam).
    2.Been caught on the street?-WhooHoo..I should come to Korea, grooming as innocent girl on street, enjoying and walking while eating my peppermint ice-cream ..
    3.I knew she stay in the US 10 yrs ago but does that mean she good in Korean as well?If KKS need English speaker in T-ARA for the sake of their international promotions,why CCM can't send Soyeon to English class and at the same time improve her English skills since she's the spoke person of T-ARA.
    4.Another rapper in T-ARA? Does T-ARA sooner or later turn to hip-hop group?- Poor EunMinYoung,their lines are getting lessen than anyone..With addition of two newbies, I can see a way out of T-ARA was wide open to QriRam. Good job KKS!
    5."He had no idea if she could sing or act, but declares that he found an "unrefined jewel."-Of course KKS doesn't have any idea why he need to scouted her because there is NO BRAIN IN HIS HEAD!!!!
    6. "In order to make sure I don't hurt T-ara's popularity or image, I'm practicing more before I join my unnies." -kid,(sorry,i'm not trying to be rude),your place is SCHOOL! Not in T-ARA! You still young, need to learn a lot of thing to become like T-ARA.I rather said you should debut when you 16yrs (next two years).Plus,in your addition into T-ARA, both you and your stupid boss Kim Kwang Soo already hurt million QUEEN'S heart. Do you think we will get over about this soon? It's took us months or year to accept Hwa and don't expect much from us to accept you within minutes or weeks or whatever. Probably decade.
    7.The only good thing I can say to Danee,WELCOME TO HELL LIFE,kiddy.
    8.If killing someone does count as legal action, you must be the first person I want to kill,KKS!
    9.Girl, better you show us your real talents (singing and dancing)-Not your innocent look cuz I'm not falling into innocent+pure your images.
    Seriously,I'm getting sick read any articles about her because I'm not ready to accept her so far.
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