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That article dates back to when Sexy Love was first release, and at that time there was still a lot of heat on them and continuous attacks from netizens. Even if people liked the songs, those low stars and negative reviews were to be expected.
In terms of sales, indeed lower than their previous singles. Once again expected but the sale number itself is not a flop, but compared to their previous singles and considering how well T-ara sells (specifically before the scandal), yeah, not too great at all.
And a clarification from that article about the black ocean, there technically wasn't any. None of the fandoms purportedly carried lightsticks (the fandom that was rumored to be the instigators don't even have lightsticks). They mostly recieved a silent audience, with few cheers only at the beginning and end of the performance.

Soyeon was busy texting to me *delusion mode on*. Eunjung was swearing at KKS even in her sleep.
Just note that they travelled economy class. Hopefully because the better seats were sold out beforehand, not because KKS is cutting down their expenses because of that incident.

aw look at my EJ ^^ KKS need to cut them some slack and stop trying to kill them! =.="

Like the comments above. I, too became a fan of T-ara because of Eunjung. I only started to like and be a fan of T-ara last April cause I only discovered WGM Woojung couple last April thanks to the christmas special where all the 3 couples were present. I can't believe how fans of them for a long long time can give up on them that easily because of RUMORS of them bullying one member and evidences that were only cut from different variety shows. I just started being a fan last April but still I know that they could not do things like that. Longer fans should've known that. But I guess even if you've been a T-ara fan for a long time it doesn't necessarily mean that you are a TRUE fan already. What makes a TRUE is staying by your idols side when all goes down and when they needed you the most. Guess those fans who claim to love T-ara before just like them during the happy times and is a coward to face the sad times like this one.
In the episode, Eunjung's tears was soooo genuine. You can really feel how much she is disappointed of them having to part ways and how much she hurts. Jangwoo trying to prevent his tears from falling was obviously so hurt as well. Guess they didn't expect this to happen. I'm so sad that they worked hard for WGM for 1 year and 6 months and yet WGM repay them with just a 15 min ending. How cruel can people get? But still this must be my 2nd favorite episode cause even if this is A REALLY REALLY HEARTBREAKING episode, I saw how much they loved each other and how much they still want to stay together.

I think if they are really not going to clear this issue out in the public (maybe because of KKS not wanting them to speak up or any other reasons) then it would be better if they don't appear to any shows, stay silent, and wait for public to just forget the issue. Cause if they continue to show up while the issue is still on fire, the viewers will just hate them more and more troubles will just arise. This may take months or even years for people to forget it but I think that would be best for everyone.
I'm not saying I'm in favor of them not speaking up or clarifying things with the public but seeing things turn out for the worse, I don't really see KKS allowing them to speak up and clear their name. I don't even see the public believing what they say anymore. If only this was really handled well, then all of this would have died down quick.
My wish for T-ara right now is to just take a rest, enjoy life without worrying about public's opinion, and healthiness while they have no projects to attend to yet. As what I have read before in a comment in allkpop article. Yes, I know, It's weird that there's a positive comment there. But you may not know that so many positive comments are now in their comment sections. I was also shocked. Because I remember before when not even 1 or 2 people would dare right positive comments to T-ara cause they will be bashed by anti's. But now the hater's are the ones being bashed whenever they comment bad things on articles about T-ara. It just shows how strong and united Queen's has been because of this controversy.
Ok. Back to what the comment says. It says that Queen's shouldn't give up in believing in T-ara cause tough times dont last, only tough people do.
*I think that this issue also has it's positive effects not only to T-ara but also to us. Our fandom has lost all the fake fan who claimed that they love T-ara before but hate them now because of this, and we became stronger and more united as ever. To T-ara, I think this issue also served as a lesson and this also made them stronger than ever for sure.
Sorry for writing an essay. Haha!)

I think if they are really not going to clear this issue out in the public (maybe because of KKS not wanting them to speak up or any other reasons) then it would be better if they don't appear to any shows, stay silent, and wait for public to just forget the issue. Cause if they continue to show up while the issue is still on fire, the viewers will just hate them more and more troubles will just arise. This may take months or even years for people to forget it but I think that would be best for everyone.
I'm not saying I'm in favor of them not speaking up or clarifying things with the public but seeing things turn out for the worse, I don't really see KKS allowing them to speak up and clear their name. I don't even see the public believing what they say anymore. If only this was really handled well, then all of this would have died down quick.
My wish for T-ara right now is to just take a rest, enjoy life without worrying about public's opinion, and healthiness while they have no projects to attend to yet. As what I have read before in a comment in allkpop article. Yes, I know, It's weird that there's a positive comment there. But you may not know that so many positive comments are now in their comment sections. I was also shocked. Because I remember before when not even 1 or 2 people would dare right positive comments to T-ara cause they will be bashed by anti's. But now the hater's are the ones being bashed whenever they comment bad things on articles about T-ara. It just shows how strong and united Queen's has been because of this controversy.
Ok. Back to what the comment says. It says that Queen's shouldn't give up in believing in T-ara cause tough times dont last, only tough people do.
*I think that this issue also has it's positive effects not only to T-ara but also to us. Our fandom has lost all the fake fan who claimed that they love T-ara before but hate them now because of this, and we became stronger and more united as ever. To T-ara, I think this issue also served as a lesson and this also made them stronger than ever for sure.
Sorry for writing an essay. Haha!)

Like the comments above. I, too became a fan of T-ara because of Eunjung. I only started to like and be a fan of T-ara last April cause I only discovered WGM Woojung couple last April thanks to the christmas special where all the 3 couples were present. I can't believe how fans of them for a long long time can give up on them that easily because of RUMORS of them bullying one member and evidences that were only cut from different variety shows. I just started being a fan last April but still I know that they could not do things like that. Longer fans should've known that. But I guess even if you've been a T-ara fan for a long time it doesn't necessarily mean that you are a TRUE fan already. What makes a TRUE is staying by your idols side when all goes down and when they needed you the most. Guess those fans who claim to love T-ara before just like them during the happy times and is a coward to face the sad times like this one.
In the episode, Eunjung's tears was soooo genuine. You can really feel how much she is disappointed of them having to part ways and how much she hurts. Jangwoo trying to prevent his tears from falling was obviously so hurt as well. Guess they didn't expect this to happen. I'm so sad that they worked hard for WGM for 1 year and 6 months and yet WGM repay them with just a 15 min ending. How cruel can people get? But still this must be my 2nd favorite episode cause even if this is A REALLY REALLY HEARTBREAKING episode, I saw how much they loved each other and how much they still want to stay together.

[12.08.25] Video HD - WooJung's finale on We Got Married



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdMh69NSmGs



CR: crawqed@yt


I don’t watch WGM, not especially the WooJung couple, but I watched this last episode of them. Even though it’s just a short 15mins, I could feel their unbearable pain of separation. I cried watching them tear. Their emotions felt so real. Those who have shipped them, could have felt it stronger than I do. I must really thank Eunjung for her effort in filming WGM, she really made T-ara shine. People who fell for the WooJung couple, not only love them as a couple, they love them individually as well. In a sense, Eunjung became a good representative of T-ara. Thank God for WGM, for people who chase this, they will see Eunjung’s character well in this show. Eunjung ah, I don’t know what more I can say for you, but please be strong. Everything you’ve done, has not all gone down the drain. This period may be tough for you, but I believe T-ara and you will get the right justice soon. It may not be so fast, but I know the day will come. Till then, I’ll be here to stay by all of you. I want to stick through this rough period with you. I don’t ask for more, but just stay healthy and happy will do. Remember that people don’t control your life. You can manipulate your own life too. Don’t get affected what what people say. As long as your conscience serves you right, you are definitely on the right track. You’ve already shown that confidence. There is in fact no need to hide. What needs to be ashamed, are the rumors. Rumors are only rife and taking charge now because the real subjects of the scandal are still in hiding. Once all of you are out and the air is cleared, the rumors will all cease to exist. So not to worry. Things will be fine (:

wow... KKS finally making good decisions... one of the incredibly rare things you will see in your lifetime

Yay Queen's and KKS on the same side for once XD

it is nice he is not directly sueing the posters online. but the media who reported them. seems very sensible

CCM I can't believe you're actually doing something right about this situation.

good, about time for it to calm down. netizens just being silly by getting worked up over the nonsense rumors that don't even have solid proof.

What I hate about KKS is he always said something that supposedly said by the original talker. Can't Hwayoung and others members speak by themselves? because everytime I heard KKS talk, I've got a feeling that he's manipulated the facts.

Poor everyone. Even Qri, Areum and Dani even when they have done nothing. They have to be in the middle of this debacle and do nothing but watch the empire burn.
Though this gives Eunjung a chance to redeem herself by bringing to light her view on the facts and what really went on. This should be plenty incentive to talk. Guilty or not, the damage is done. Please Eunjung do something to win back some sympathy. I'll stand behind you always but I'm only one in millions of fans out there.

CCM should let t-ara speak up ... anything that the members say right now will soothe the fans a bit

I'm not sure whether i'm happy or sad with this news. However, no matter what, i still love t-ara and will always support them.

Guys . Kim Kwangsoo will never have any guts to kick out Hyomin, Eunjung or Jiyeon. And even if he actually kicked them out, CCM is defitenally gonna collapse for sure . And all the drama .. Ugh .

what i really want to know is how this topic of KKS marrying Qri came up now O__O lol

Consider me an idiot but apart from the netizens is there actually any proof that there's bullying going on? I read the tweets and it can be taken either as encouragement to themselves cause who in there right minds promote a song in two countries and do a concert at the same time, or they were aiming it Hwayoung but more in a way that's trying to get her to pull her weight but no where is there bullying going on in the tweets its just wishful thinking on the part of the netizens and once people hear it they all jump in saying its bullying.

I was waiting for someone to post this up.

Super long post, but hopefully its a good read for fellow concerned QUEEN'S.
I'm willing to give the girls the benefit of the doubt regarding this whole bullying Hwayoung issue (but things are seriously looking very, very bad). But if they really are, I would be extremely shocked and totally disappointed in the girls. Having known them since debut, watching them gain popularity day by day with their hilarious variety shows and catchy songs, T-ara have always been the group to be able to put a smile to my face, rain or shine.
It is so disheartening to see thousands of people coming to conclusions so easily about this bullying, calling JiEunMin and even Soyeon very foul names and calling QUEEN'S delusional for wanting to give T-ara a chance to explain. Years of hard work to gain fame and recognition all easily tarnished just by this situation. It's hard to see how T-ara will manage to recover from this, if they even can...
Looking at it from a realistic point of view, it's hard to not agree that Hwayoung is being bullied by the other members (minus Qri and maybe Boram). T-ara always had 2 'subunits'; the "Originals" (Jiyeon, Eunjung, Hyomin) and the "Unnis" (Soyeon, Qri, Boram) and then there was Hwayoung who didn't fit into either group (but was typically grouped with Qri and Boram as the "Underrated" group by fans).
Even I noticed from all of their variety shows that Hwayoung was always the outcast type; the members would talk to her and treat her normally but there were rarely ever any cute moments- or rather, any bonding- between Hwayoung and another member; at best it was Hwayoung having a derp moment like when she dropped the stack of cups in Pretty Boys and all the other members laugh at her for that. There was always a sort of invisible tension, a sort of coldness and neglect. Throughout Hello Baby Hwayoung was always just playing with Maden all alone by herself while the others were doing their own thing with Mason and Mavin. Also in the first episode of Star Life Theater, Hwayoung told the camera man that they were going to go practice for their concert and she said "right, Unnie?" to Soyeon who simply said "Mmm" and a second later gave Hwayoung a quick smile... this would have been okay, had Hwayoung not chuckle very, very awkwardly. That scene just felt totally off to me.
Many fans (including myself) HATED the announcement that T-ara was getting a new member back in '10, with many reasons being that T-ara was fine as they were and that the addition was completely unnecessary (it still kind of was, honestly. Her addition had no effect on the success of YaYaYa, Why Are You Being Like This, Roly Poly, Cry Cry, etc. All it did was force the current T-ara members to have to RELEARN the choreography for previous songs and the members themselves expressed how unhappy- or rather, the difficulties they had- about that).
Hwayoung essentially had a lot to prove to both the fans and the T-ara members themselves that she was a worthy member of T-ara. It was not until Lovey Dovey and Day by Day, nearly 2 years later, when 2 more members were added, did Hwayoung finally get to be recognized. Things were going so well for T-ara... No one had any idea that the members were potentially bullying Hwayoung. How can this be? And why would the girls publicly bash Hwayoung via Twitter?
Since we have quite some time until the 30th major announcement, let's piece together the information (this is all PURE SPECULATION).
1. Hwayoung's addition to T-ara makes no contribution whatsoever, and actually had a detrimental effect: the girls had to relearn choreographies for past songs and now had to split earnings even more, not to mention they now had the awkward atmosphere of having a new member- or rather, a nobody (everybody starts off as nobodies!)- being thrown into the group.
2. As a result, T-ara members never fully "accepted" Hwayoung. They have 'accepted' that she was a part of T-ara because obviously they could not do anything about it and had to be professional, but they have never 'accepted' her as a part of them. This is seen on variety shows, where Hwayoung is always the outcast- always left out. She always was there, but she wasn't a part of them. This becomes even more evident when you see how Hwayoung treats Areum- always hugging her and smiling with her... they almost seem inseparable. Already you see Hwayoung having cute bonding moments with a NEW member... Something that you rarely, if ever, see her having with the original members despite the 2 YEARS she was with them.
3. Regarding the fabled CEO KKS and his rather... interesting... reputation, his ranting about T-ara being "lazy" and "full of themselves" makes sense if you consider the current situation. As fans who only saw T-ara as angels with a hectic schedule and 2 hour sleeps we immediately dismissed KKS's crude remarks, but if Hwayoung was really bullied via Twitter, chances are she was bullied behind the scenes too. She could've told KKS about this, prompting him to be outraged at the behavior of these members who became "full of themselves" and think they were "irreplaceable" to the point of adding in more members and threatening that he can remove anyone who continues to stir problems. As Hwayoung was the victim here, KKS decides to let Hwayoung have the spotlight with her raps for the Day by Day album, while JiEunMin and even Soyeon seemed to have diminishing lines. This can be related to KKS's statement of "no singing talent = no lines", although it is impossible to tell. The sudden change in line distribution could also stir jealousy and competition among the members.
4. Due to stress, lack of sleep, and a hectic schedule coupled with KKS's threats of removing them if they were lazy or mistreating each other, a lot of fans saw T-ara as a ticking time bomb, wondering when they would finally explode and always commenting "I wish they'd just leave CCM for good" or to "pull a KARA and file a lawsuit". But T-ara somehow continued to pull through with a smile, telling fans to not worry about their health and that they even want to continue acting along with doing music despite the whole no-more-acting-in-2012 thing. The members were, in a sense, absolutely "determined" that they could manage everything. They even had a big-scale concert- the Budokan, coming up, and they were practicing furiously for it. Eunjung herself stated, "We just want to enjoy the stage, without the pressure of being #1".
5. Unfortunately, last minute, Hwayoung injured herself, and was ultimately unable to perform at the concert, causing all the members who had extremely high hopes for the concert to become extremely disappointed. Since it was last minute, there was no way T-ara could adjust their choreography and line distribution; in essence, their month(s) of practices and preparation for the concert went down the drain along with their hopes of just being able to "enjoy the stage". The damage a lack of Hwayoung causes is evidently seen in the 120727 Day by Day performance on Music Bank where Hwayoung was absent- Hyomin outright had to look at a staff member who wrote the lyrics on a board for her to be able to pull off the rap and her clueless expression was saddening to watch. If the damage for one performance was so bad without Hwayoung, imagine the damage it had on a full scale concert and the resulting disappointment the girls would have.
6. How do the members react? They don't live together anymore, so they didn't handle it privately. They used Twitter to express their frustrations. The new member that joined 2 years ago that didn't really offer anything to the group and was outcasted, costed T-ara the chance to enjoy their first big-scale concert in Japan. Having been brainwashed by KKS to be extremely competitive-otherwise-be-kicked, coupled with their frustrations, T-ara couldn't handle it anymore and had to outright (indirectly?) bash Hwayoung on Twitter. "It's all her fault. She was not determined enough" Is basically what this whole Twitter bullying thing is about. It's not like other members were mad about the injury but rather the timing of it; others have been injured and/or absent before- that happened all the time and they were fine. But this time it happened on a big-scale event with high expectations. Hwayoung- someone who was potentially not liked in the first place- cost them BIG time at the Budokan. Members could potentially be thinking, this would have never happened if she never joined our group. We would have been fine without her (and they would be right. Eunjung and Hyomin are wonderful at rapping and T.T.L. is living proof of that). But still... for them to publicly lash at her and questioning her about her determination is something that even I cannot forgive T-ara for IF it happens to be true.
7. How does Hwayoung feel? DEVASTATED. If she really was bullied all this time and was an outcast... I can't even imagine the pain she had to go through. The T-ara members constantly mentioned that through all the tough times, they at least always had each other; a sort of second family. What about Hwayoung? Her most recent twitter mentioned that she at least has the support of her "family" and fans... whether T-ara is a part of her "family" is unknown... but if they haven't been all this time, then my heart goes out to her. Hyoyoung, being revealed by Hwayoung in Star Life Theater as the one who told the CEO to put Hwayoung into T-ara, must be feeling extremely guilty. She was the one that allowed this to happen- to let her younger twin, her "better half", be bullied by T-ara. "What's the point of having a pretty face if your inside isn't pretty?" she says is basically calling out one or more of the T-ara members.
8. CCM claims that T-ara couldn't have made those tweets and that they were hacked- this essentially means that the girl's tweets are acknowledged as insults, NOT ENCOURAGEMENT despite what translations may imply. Hell they could of sincerely thought this would be the only case, because they didn't know that Hwayoung was actually being bullied. Many people are laughing at that hacked statement, as it is "obviously B.S." but who knows. Maybe they were hacked (doubt it), maybe CCM said that specifically because they know it will attract even more attention- especially since they have a "major announcement" coming up. The major announcement did shift some of the focus off the bullying scandal and has instead made people pondering about what the major announcement could be, but overall the damage this whole issue has on T-ara's popularity- dividing the fandom, making thousands call the other members very crude names, and overall making the image of T-ara not as Queens of K-Pop but Queens of Cat-Fights is a very depressing event that makes the future of T-ara look very bleak.
9. Hyomin ended this by changing her picture (she changed it shortly after) to something that mentioned, "Everything happens for a reason" on Twitter. We shall *hopefully* see what this reason is, and pray for the better, on the 30th.
T-ara hwaiting.

Yea, I'd have to agree with you on this one. I personally find Jiyeon, Hyomin and Eunjung to be the most guilty of this bullying case but in the long shot and in the wide picture, KKS is to blame for along with whatever cootheads in management supported him.
If more popular groups like SNSD or 2NE1 were in a situation like this, I can't even begin to imagine how much worse the chaos would be. It would be unthinkable - hell, Kpop as a whole would take what can be seen as an almost unrecoverable damage.
Honestly, the more I think about it, T-ara seems much better off in its 6-ara days.

I agree that this all started when Hwayoung tweeted something, then her sister tweeted, then her rap couch tweeted and she still hasn't stop tweeting even though news of the members bashing her are already out. Her tweets, for me, is more like accumulating fans by tweeting pitiful statements.
At first read. I would say that EJ and HYM tweets are not insulting tweets and if it were for Hwayoung (which i doubt it is, because I don't think the girls will risk their image just to bash her), I think it was said nicely, but I've got to say that Jiyeon saying "I applaud you, acting genius." was a bit harsh if it were really true that the tweets were for Hwayoung
After knowing that Boram unfollowed Hwayoung, and Hwayoung deleting pictures of her with members, thats when things get serious. I really don't know what's happening inside the group but i do think there is already a problem inside the group, remember that in the 5 girl's tweets they seem to agree with each other, meaning they all feel the same way, so maybe Hwayoung really does or did something that made the other 5 members feel that way about her.

I agree that this all started when Hwayoung tweeted something, then her sister tweeted, then her rap couch tweeted and she still hasn't stop tweeting even though news of the members bashing her are already out. Her tweets, for me, is more like accumulating fans by tweeting pitiful statements.
At first read. I would say that EJ and HYM tweets are not insulting tweets and if it were for Hwayoung (which i doubt it is, because I don't think the girls will risk their image just to bash her), I think it was said nicely, but I've got to say that Jiyeon saying "I applaud you, acting genius." was a bit harsh if it were really true that the tweets were for Hwayoung
After knowing that Boram unfollowed Hwayoung, and Hwayoung deleting pictures of her with members, thats when things get serious. I really don't know what's happening inside the group but i do think there is already a problem inside the group, remember that in the 5 girl's tweets they seem to agree with each other, meaning they all feel the same way, so maybe Hwayoung really does or did something that made the other 5 members feel that way about her.