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  1. How could this be the doing of the Queen's. Why will they bother to go to a concert just to boo them. It is the fans from other fandom that boo did this s***

    I think he meant Kqueens as a moniker for overdramatic Kpop fans. Queen, diva, princess, daddy's girl, etc. are other similar terms to grow on that. Now if he did mean to throw a jab at Queens...LOL.

    Though I think Queens still have the right to chant 'Hwayoung'. It also takes a ton of courage to perform in front of a disapproving crowd. Glad none of them teared up or anything. Props to T-ara.

  2. I agree with all your points and time and time again have told people that going after Hwayoung or any of the other members is not the right thing to do or productive in anyway. And seriously, whoever points fault at Hwayoung is just legit out of their mind. That's like saying a rape victim deserves it. Sure the idea of supporting a victim of bullying is a noble one but the disconnection that these casual or less-than fans/netizens/whatever have to the group sort of counteracts the whole pursuit for justice they want. To this day I still don't understand how a T-ara fan's enemy is another T-ara fan.

    Regardless, the dust has settled and the fact is that Hwayoung is no longer in T-ara. How any T-ara fan can NOT upset, I have no clue.

  3. What part of "Dead it right there." and "If you want to continue, I am available by PM." did you not understand.

    Do you or do you not realize that you still continue to insult me, misinterpret my posts, and pretty much lie through out your post. Normally I don't mind having some back and forth with members who share opposing views but you come off as a troll and disrespectful where uncalled for AND do so to other members.

  4. This lady deserves a Pulitzer's...or a Korean equivalent.

    She said, "speaking about Soyeon is a very sensitive matter" "I've not seen Soyeon before. It seems like it was T-ara's agency which allowed things to become like this"

    She continued, "The company should, in line with what the public and citizens want, give an explanation about the issue" "Eunjung left her drama recently, and the requests for the other members to leave are also continuing endlesslessly, it is like they are digging their own graves. I feel very regretful about their company"

    Preach sister. Finally an article where someone makes some sense.

  5. Wow where do I start. Am I flattered to be quoted multiple times or should I be upset that you not only butchered my points but then threw words in my mouth?

    -Nor is calling the public a bunch of mindless, delusional, easy to manipulate, zealots is a good thing either. Agreed?

    Your words, not mine. I'll have my opinion on the general public and you your's.

    -And as I pointed out, the people, including those who dislike/hate T-ara, requested an official statement from the members. Soyeon, being the leader of the group and member, "officially" spoke about it, and guess what, the group of people who dislike/hate T-ara simply "DID NOT BELIEVE HER ONE BIT!" Which inevitably made them contradict their entire views and beliefs, and then continued their dark crusade against them, all because they didn't get the answers they completely believe in, which happens to be false.

    If people who dislike T-ara didn't believe the interview, that is their issue. Sorry where in my post did I ever say I doubted her? Soyeon was one of multiple parties involved. If there was a fight among 2-3, do you take one person's word and make conclusions from that? Don't answer that, I fear for your answer.

    -About that name calling again? And her statements clearly said that they were disagreements and polarized point of views amongst the members, and definitely "not bullying", because they didn't want to go that far, nor have Hwayoung removed at all. It was the 19 statements by the staff members that changed all of that, not the members. Soyeon clearly stated that they all wanted a solution to resolve their differences from another point of view. How does all of this "solidify" bullying or even prove that the members were bullying each other?

    If disagreements are defined as bullying, then that means both you and I are bullying each other right now, right? Do you feel bullied?

    Don't be offended by me calling you delusional. That was more to give you a hint to see things from my point. Which I guess you're trying because you've made some opinions for me which I don't recall having. Good effort, bad execution though. I won't get into a pissing match between words because you and I definitely haven't watched the same interview.

    And no I don't consider this bullying. A member came at me sideways, called me an anti and picked apart my post and butchered any point I made. Don't think I'd let that slide.

    -Is there proof that this "really happened"? Witnesses? Better yet, show us this "crazy stuff" and it's "specific hidden location". The media is hungry for anything, so what.

    You use a lot of "quotes" and you sure use them "wrong." Example of crazy things CCM has put the lid on? The Jiyeon/webcam thing, T-ara's initial criticisms by media for bad attitude, outfits and sporting a rival team's color. Ok, not exactly crazy because they're old and no longer significant. Wait I think I just proved my point. Onto the next butchering...

    -Indeed, it is unfortunate that there are those who just can't understand the sheer gravity of this situation and take this so out of context

    So far the only person taking things out of context is you. Don't lose sleep on it though, we're not perfect.

    -Then why the encouragement to continue to go along with the separation of Hwayoung from the group? Why support and treat the possibilities that alleged "bullying" accusations are true? Why underrate the newest members without leaving enough room to prove themselves? Why must you create an inner conflict within yourself, in the first place?

    And here we reach the great slaughtering of my post. I never wanted Hwayoung to leave. I supported this girl from day one. Against people who didn't see the need for a new member. Against people saying she was a terrible rapper. Against people saying she was the downfall of the group. She's no longer in T-ara and it kills me. But if that's the route taken, I can do nothing about it. I've already voiced my view on the bullying situation multiple times. Not gonna bring that here as that wasn't the point of this topic nor any of my previous posts here. This thing about the new members came out of nowhere. While everyone was busy roasting them, doing them worse than they did Hwayoung, I'm one of few actually encouraging members to accept them. You wouldn't know anything about supporting other fans though, would you? Seems like all you do is instigate things.

    But yes this was great. I love supporting T-ara only to find someone come from left field and totally spin everything wrong. Dead it right there. IDK what sort of point you're trying to make. If you want to continue, I am available by PM. I'm sorry if my post rubbed you the wrong way. But as I stated, calling me an anti and then picking apart my post, you're stirring up something you shouldn't.

  6. Did everybody miss, let alone forgot, our Soyeon's Interview about this "misunderstanding"? :blink: I guess the antis did. <_<

    Slow your role, keyboard warrior. Calling anybody an anti won't do you any good. Like I said, the silence did nobody any favors. That interview came out what, like last week sometime? Near two weeks of deafening silence from T-ara and guess what? The issue is still unresolved in the public's eyes. Don't be delusional, that interview solidified the bullying issue as unfortunate as it may be but bridges can be rebuilt. CCM pulled some miracles sweeping some crazy stuff under the rugs, but this is a hot issue and the media is hungry. The fans, rather I, just want all tension, if any, between the members to be squashed and things to go back to normal [one can hope, right?]. How's that for an "anti's" opinion. You think I enjoy T-ara going through this BS? As my favorite group by far, I've always held T-ara to a higher regard than other groups, and I will continue to do so.

  7. The company needs them out there as T-ara is their primary source of income. They don't have any other act as successful as T-ara in their roster.

    That's a great way to burn them out and turn something they enjoy into something they despise. T-ara took a bit of momentum before they started getting noticed and getting more fans. The thing is CCM abandons most of their groups if they don't become successful right away. How such an established company does everything so wrong is beyond me.

  8. It's not just Soyeon hurting, it's T-ara. Within the past few weeks, we had one member terminated from the group, the remaining members torched by media and management, members risking their individual activities [EunSoHyo and their dramas], one member in a serious car accident and lost a decent percent of fans and the rest confused and frustrated.

    As someone who's more familiar with western music culture, an artist going on hiatus for months, years, even decade+ isn't so strange to me. So when the term "comeback" is used in Kpop for groups who released an album a few months before, I found that to be extremely ridiculous. With that being said now would be the time for T-ara to just ghost for a few months, maybe even a year. They need the break and management can use the time to reevaluate things for the better. Though it's nice, we don't need T-ara on stage 24/7. Us fan won't go anywhere or forget them.

    I originally posted this somewhere else, but found it more suited for this thread. However when I deleted the original post, I forgot to copy the message lol. I think I covered most of it.

  9. wth! Is just me or they should not have take those pictures? and of course is worse to make them public

    Hospitals generally ask to turn cellphones off. At least the one I work at does, there's a sign pretty much in every section. Not too much of a stretch to think it might even be against hospital policy to take photos. But that's just me rambling.

    No car crash is fun but it seems like it flipped onto the side and didn't fully roll over. So she has that to work with. However in the few times I've seen idols in vans, they usually don't have seat belts on. A neck and back injury is pretty serious so I hope she actually gets some decent time off. Another blessing is it looks likes she's conscious enough to rest her arm like that and she's not hooked up to monitor vitals. So it looks like the road for recovery for her. A bad sign would be if she was just sprawled out and hooked up to several machines. Peace of mind I guess for whoever reads this.

  10. - Tag your topics.

    - A video of the group interacting with one another, positively, does NOT mean bullying doesn't exist.

    - Several topics already exist on this subject.

    - Welcome to Diadems.

    I'm not saying bullying exists or not...as I've already expressed my opinion on that many times. But everyone calls for proof/evidence/truth and montage of positive interactions isn't the best example.

  11. Last I checked, any of the girls had the means to clear up the rumors themselves. Straight from the source. Instead they were kept unreasonably quiet by someone. Sure it happened over a period of a day or two but for us fans it felt like eternity to hear anything unravel about the situation. While we fans waited for clarification, netizens took this time to make their own conclusions out of the littlest of details, as some of us did too but time did nobody any favors. Even now I believe it's not totally resolved and honestly, much worse. KKS/CCM failed to address the issue in time and the damage is done.

    The people that paid the price in the end were T-ara, Hwayoung and their fans. Nobody else really cares. Even if they directly bullied Hwayoung and ostracized her, a simple and quick apology would've definitely left the good in a better state than what they are in now.

    KKS you dun f-ed up.

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