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  1. big boss? he doesnt even deserves it..lol..apart from having tons of action figure collections..

    the true big boss for t-ara is park kwang won(pkw for short), and he can ditch kks anytime he want..

    freedom? a clue for their next title track maybe? who knows..

    anyway, its funny to read the comments about kks..imo, kks knows the fact that he might not live for much longer(if he stays in korea) so europe is his escape hatch..or maybe he just wanted to take the opportunity to travel in europe before he die..lol..

    You're right that KKS isn't in charge of all of Mnet, as you say - since Park Kwang Won has that position.

    But still, it doesn't look like PKW has much authority over CCM's activities, yet alone detailed knowledge. For all we know, PKW can be simply just the overall CEO of Mnet or even just a figurehead for CJ Group. We haven't really seen him intervene much of CCM's actvities in public, yet alone making headlines in the news.

    CCM is only a branch of Mnet, much like how the US Army is just a service branch of the US armed forces. It's not like Obama has complete authority, knowledge and control over ALL of the Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines' activities, plans and operations. If they do, that is some serious micromanagement and undermining of the four branches' command - that would make the command system inefficient and clumsy, at best. Hitler did that just fine, leading to some serious consequences for the Wehrmacht.

    So long as KKS makes money, I don't think even PKW will really bother to care about T-ara at all. Out of all the money T-ara earns, a lot of it is likely to go to PKW and KKS, as well as maintaining the Mnet Channel and paying other employees (that, I can understand). I don't know much about PKW, but KKS sure as hell doesn't deserve as much as he's getting now.

  2. Ma Boo and I'm OK were the best, in my opinion.

    Sure, MB sounds a bit like TTL but nonetheless, I enjoy listening to it especially when I'm writing my fan-fic.

    To be VERY honest here, YaYaYa was almost enough to even make me turn into an anti/hater of T-ara. Hell, my ear drums felt like they were being slowly murdered when I first listened to it. It really made me wonder how they went from decent songs like Lies and TTL to garbage (no offense to those who like YYY) like that.

    Thank god MB and I'm OK saved the day. It wasn't until Cry Cry when my view of T-ara went up a whole new level.

  3. NICE!!! They are finally getting break. Just hope that they are not there for relly strenuouse schedules.

    The girls finally get a well deserved rest.... Hope they will really enjoy themselves on this trip... :D

    hmmmm a short vacation for the girls as well, not bad KKS lol!

    well i expect alot from the new group and the girls new album as well XD

    It ain't a break if they're going over there to shoot a music video. The news clearly mention this.

    If they were to actually go on a vacation, it doesn't make any sense why KKS and a whole lot of other people would join them as well. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that KKS doesn't give a f**k about what the girls think and is more concerned with his personal grip over the them, most of the time anyway. Don't take it too much in heart - it's a publicity stunt by CCM to downplay the amount of flak spat on them by the public.

    In KKS's world, it's probably what he calls vacation but anyone employed by a major company can tell that it's hardly a vacation at all. If you went to Europe with your friends on vacation, would you even call it 'vacation' if your boss joined in and said you have to work there too?

    I certainly don't recall any other idols having their agency's CEO joining them on vacation times.

  4. My vote goes to both So Yeon, Boram and Hyomin.

    As known, Hyomin was a popular internet ulzzang back in her earlier years and there's enough photos to prove it.

    So Yeon's pre-debut pics also look hardly different to her current form, aside that she looks a bit more thinner in the pre-debut years. I cannot say too much about Boram but I recall someone posted photos of her when she was 19, 20 and 21. To say the least, she looks very natural.

    If anything, Eun Jung and Ji Yeon probably look the most different without makeup.

    Qri and Hwa Young remain a mystery to me.

  5. Indeed it is very ironic.I think the girls are hinting at how terrible KKS and CCM are for not giving them enough break and it is the closest "break" they can get.To me,since they are filming a documentary,I believe they will shoot as soon as they board the plane.I bet they probably weren't happy when they knew that scumbag will be following them in Europe.

    The girls have hinted how much of a despicable crackpot KKS is, agreed. Hell, KKS himself already showed to the public how much of an attention-seeking douchebag he already is.

    I can't say for CCM as a company, since there very likely are some staff that are opposed to KKS's idiocy. Of course, they wouldn't want to get fired and end up jobless - that I can understand.

    Given KKS's personal tight control over T-ara, it might as well add in that even Davichi is for the most part ignored (aside from the fact they're in singing competition programs in the weekends) by himself. The guy's a control freak, literally. I doubt that even YG's Yang Hyun Seok would follow Big Bang or 2NE1 everywhere. I don't doubt that the girls were a bit depressed to hear that KKS is joining them to Europe. It's like saying Stalin should have personally accompanied Soviet troops in the Battle of Berlin, 1945.

  6. Rather ironic that the trip is called 'FREEDOM' when in fact they're going over to shoot a music video. 9 days and 8 nights? Hell, does the first day of those 9 days start from the very moment they step out of the plane or does it start as soon as they board the plane?

    Because it's a very, very long way from Korea to Europe. They might as well be travelling back in time.

    KKS being in charge of the whole production - LMFAO.

    Can't judge the MV as it is not out yet, but if it's shitty, then that gives more room to slander him.

  7. Indeed. Feel grateful to whoever that made this decision. I hope that this group trip will be the 1st point that mean 7 of them remain as T-ara. @@

    Sorry to burst your bubble but the reason why all of them are going is because KKS himself doesn't want any members remaining in Korea while he himself is gone - because if so, it leaves them the freedom to actually spill out some more nasty stuff about CCM and that whackjob to the press.

    Or alternatively, if he stayed in Korea, then it's quite darn possible Hyomin or Eunjung would have done something drastic against him too. As said, he's an incredibly paranoid man who's more concerned with his control over the girls' lives.

  8. Didn't have a favorite member in the start.

    Actually, they all felt mediocre for some reason, but that's probably because I was a fan of SNSD at the time.

    Ji Yeon or Hyomin were probably the most closest to being favored members early on.

    Though I have to admit, So Yeon's my favorite now - I really love girls that can sing, are talkative and witty.

    Appearance-wise, she seems to be also the most natural out of all - apparently the only 'surgery' she got

    was just a Botox shot on her nose or something.

  9. Why do I keep repeating everybody that KKS loves T-ara! Now they're taking a Euro trip together !

    Are there still some people who think KKS is evil and hates T-ara now ?

    By the way : THIS IS A REAL FAMILY COMPANY. Taking days off to spend time together is the real deal, not just saying random stuff on TV to pretend to have any bonds with company mates when really there isn't any (yes Cube, yes JYP, I'm talking about you)

    Patheticus, patheticum. This is one of the most naive posts I've ever come across to.

    How are you to prove that CCM is a 'real family company'? Hm? Lee Hyori, SG Wannabe, SeeYa all were under CCM before T-ara and they all left it after working for it just a few years - in the case of SeeYa, KKS is one of the major reasons why member Nam Gyuri left, even as going to call him a devil - followed by KKS slandering her in perhaps the most villainous and despicable ways imaginable. And that particular incident was a month before T-ara's debut in 2009.

    If he was a 'good person', then he sure as hell wouldn't have made them work constantly for 3 years. If anything, YG is what can be called a 'real family company' - hell, Big Bang and 2NE1 aren't nearly as active as other popular idol groups, yet they're still among the most popular and well-known around AND get plenty of rest. All it takes is just producing a good song for the masses - not making 3 comebacks a year and blazing around in front of the media.

    If the other members were left alone in Korea, as TheProphetBlog as said, they wouldn't have to worry about KKS since he'd be in Europe - thus allowing them freedom to go up against CCM. He brought the whole group for a damn reason - and it's not because he thinks of them as his kids. It's because he wants to tighten his grip around them. If he can't even trust his own staff to keep them around, then it's obvious he's paranoid of himself. Flak against him has been going around a lot in the recent days - and this event is another stunt by him to play it down. The comments from some of these fans is more than enough to show it.

    At least Cube and JYP don't work their idols almost to death as CCM does to T-ara.

    KKS isn't T-ara's CEO in Japan. It's the CEO from J-Rock that is responsible of them there. But T-ara wasn't in Japan, KKS did accompany the girls on their trip, remember T-ara Dot Com ? That episode where he's giving losts of money to the members to do some shopping.

    In any case, it's natural for a father to travel with his daughters. This will be a nice family trip. If only Davichi could tag along.

    So? He's still the CEO of T-ara itself. I don't recall T-ara being co-owned by the two agencies, as far as it goes. And no, giving money to do some shopping doesn't cut out the fact that he's a slave-owner.

    "father to travel with his daughters"? You're making me laugh. He's a paranoid whackjob who's more concerned with the members going up against him if he doesn't keep a close eye on them. The man's no different to Stalin or Hitler, minus the acts of violence.

  10. Well, whether if it can be called a vacation or not, I can't be sure. They're going to film a music video...that's a heap load of work still. I'm wondering how is it that all 7 members got to go though....but hey, Europe? Now that's something I can't afford in a lifetime. Lucky them for sure.

    But why the bloody hell is KKS going? He sure as hell likely didn't accompany T-ara whenever they went to Japan, at least to my knowledge. It's like saying Obama should accompany Delta Force on every mission it's sent to, whether it be domestic or overseas.

    Talk about some crazy micromanagement there -_-

    If anything, the scumbag is more productive by roleplaying dictators like Hitler or Stalin.

    Regarding this new girl group set for May, let's well hope that they won't be put into the dustbin like Co-Ed did.

  11. I think T-ara itself doesn't want changes right now, since they just got on top and then with a snap of a finger, breaking them down. Change is the only permanent thing in this world, we cannot really do anything about it. If T-ara would be better with these changes, why not support it? Might as well like it? I know that you don't agree to this but if we look in the side of the company, we can somehow understand what they are trying to do. They, also want the best for their company, if they knew that the 'new' T-ara would continue its success, I think they would pursue it.

    I would agree with this change, adding two members, but not replacing them. Of course, we all want the original, right?

    For its die-hard fans, T-ara will always consist of Boram, Soyeon, Qri, Hyomin, Eunjung, Hwayoung and Jiyeon

    I BELIEVE IN THEM

    We cannot foretold the future, all we need to do is to wait. Wait until all these things are cleared up

    I highly doubt that all, or even the majority of CCM's higher staff even agree with KKS's idiotic decision - T-ara is currently at the height of its popularity and to change members at this time period is no different to Hitler sacking his own generals over personal reasons when winning the war was a much more higher priority.

    If he thinks changing/replacing members is going to work, all he's going to do is lose a lot of fans. And as far as the Kpop industry goes, fans = money.

    It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that he wants to beat SM financially as well as replacing SNSD as the national idol girl group of Korea by making his own SNSD-type group - the thing is, CCM can never stand up against SM at all. SM not only has a larger financial advantage but also has massive influence and connections in the entertainment industry, not to mention they're much more better at promoting their groups and the members for the most part. Hell, I don't recall SM calling out to the media that they're going to kick out any of the SNSD members over 'laziness' and 'pride'.

  12. Exactly, "sponsor".

    We don't need CCM leaking any information about T-ara's sponsors (we all know K-Pop is a very dirty industry so ccm could have anything on our girls).

    I will be sad if Eunjung leaves, but I know she could have a good solo career because she has the popularity of being actress, as well as a very well rounded singer, rapper, and performer. She is the most well rounded member of the whole group, even though Hyomin and Hwayoung are better rappers and Soyeon is a better singer, Eunjust has the widest variety of skills.

    If Eunjung leaves, I can see her acting more and doing solo albums.

    I hope she signs with a big agency if she leaves, like Cube or JYP, even though I know that is highly unlikely hahaha.

    I'm curious as to why it's generally thought that all celebrities have these 'mysterious' sponsors.

    As far as it goes, these sponsors are more likely to be around solo celebrities or even those that aren't highly popular (Jang Ja Yeon being one particular case) - and for sure, likely don't have much say against the agencies, especially if it's the agencies that control the contracts and the idols' daily lives. That is of course, unless KKS himself happens to be the sponsor (the maggot isn't even married so there's one suspect to put on the hit list - plus FlyBri mentioned that Qri is generally thought to be that POS's 'favorite' member up to the point of infatuation).

    For sure, I highly doubt members like Boram would have sponsors, considering her family's status in the entertainment industry while Ji Yeon is still a minor by age (yes, she doesn't turn 19 until June and in Korea, 19 is when one is finally an adult). So Yeon sure likely did not have a sponsor either when she joined the group - if background info is checked, she joined only a month before T-ara's debut - if she DID have a sponsor, I'm very fairly certain plastic surgery was something she would have taken - and looking at her face, it doesn't look much like one that's gone through the knife when you compare it with other idols (hell, the only thing she ever had was a shot in the nose and usually, 99% of idols don't admit they had surgery while on screen).

    To put it simply, the dangerous presence of those sub-human, evil and despicable sponsors can be seen as exaggerated to a degree. Hell, a long-time friend of my dad himself is also a sponsor to several celebrities but the guy almost never met the celebs himself - and is busy with his own work round the clock.

    Living costs at the dorms, costumes, MV production etc. are all also paid by the agencies themselves (or at least most of it) rather than the sponsors - while I cannot say the same for smaller agencies, the Big Three and even Cube and CCM sure as hell are able to pull it off with their own cash, which in turn, is made from their idols - and we all know where that main source of income is from - right, the fans, whom are probably in the millions. That is a huge, MASSIVE load of money. Which goes to say, T-ara's MVs initially were all short but from 2011 and beyond, they became much much longer thanks to the amount of money they earner, even as going as far as multiple Lovey Dovey MVs - highly doubt sponsors would be sane enough to pay for several MVs with the same song, yet alone one that costs millions.

    I agree with you about Eun Jung - if she does leave, she'd focus on her acting and release solo albums. She'd do great in the long run, actually. Though personally, I'd say she's still slightly a bit too young to do both at once - and she's probably quite exhausted from it as well. But then again, if she left, the impact on T-ara would be enormous. If T-ara disbands or if she's the one that's given the boot, then hell, I'll support her all the way unless she gets caught for some heinous crime.

  13. They really didn't leak anything, but they very obviously made a strong attempt to drag Gyuri's name through the mud during that press conference they had on the set of Women's Generation. They aired out all of their private dirty laundry to the public, called her a liar, said she had dual contracts, a secret boyfriend to "sponsor" her (we all know what that means), etc. They all made the whole situation much bigger than it needed to be, just to vilify Gyuri.

    This was Gyuri's response to the situation:

    And despite that, CCM didn't really gain any sympathy or support from the public in general as far as I know. I don't recall them bringing out any solid evidence to back up their claims - just like how SM was unable to bring up anything serious to try convince everyone that JYJ was sueing them for personal motives and greed.

    If anything, they made themselves look like a bunch of clowns whose typical responses on such situations are irrational and reactionary at best.

  14. Like most people I feel that this announcement made no sense at all. So I asked myself, "What's REALLY going on?" The most likely scenario I can conjure up is that one or more members have asked to switch career paths to acting.

    I think the earlier "T-ara to quit acting" announcement was the result of him telling the girls that if they don't want to do both, then acting is the activity that will take a back seat.

    Given the reports of exhaustion, sometimes to the point of hospitalization, it's easy to imagine that at least one member decided they still would rather leave the idol life behind and pursue a career dedicated to acting.

    After the KARA situation, it's also easy to speculate that KKS would basically tell them that if they don't want to be in T-ara, they can kiss their entertainment career good-bye. Then tell the world that if any member does quit, it's because they're lazy. And then to punish the whole group, threaten to reduce their paychecks by forcing the pie to be split 9 ways rather than just seven.

    This is all just me speculatin'. Like I said, nothing else makes sense, given the info we have.

    Hmm, if what you said were the case, then we're looking at either Eun Jung or Ji Yeon as the most likely candidates that would leave, considering both were actresses before debut and it was their original goal in the start. And as we all know, they're among the most overworked members, if not THE most.

    But even then, if either of those two (or both) were the ones to leave, the impact would be immense, considering their positions in T-ara are very, very difficult to replace at this stage - not to mention they're also original members and perhaps the most well-known. Unless they're very selfish bastards themselves, it really doesn't seem all that possible that they asked for a career fully dedicated to acting - though it certainly cannot be ruled out and is open to discussion.

    Minus Hwa Young, given that the six members have been together since 2009, it's hard to imagine that they'd go their own way in such a fashion.

    By the way, I don't think lowering their paycheck is the only punishment he'll be using. The guy's a nutcase, no doubt about it. If anything, lowering the paycheck is only going to further anger the current members and cause more bad news in the long run. He's more concerned with his own ego and ambition of beating one of the Big Three - in which that would be SM and its group SNSD.

  15. And I think I remember Bekah making comments implying that she hated the Idol life, like the huge workloads and everything. I think she felt underappreciated, like she and the girls put in so much effort but it was never considered good enough.

    Hmm, if that really is the case, all I can say is good luck to her. After School for one thing, was never able to reach the level of popularity and recognizement as other idol groups, especially with several of its members.

    I meant maybe Kim Kwang Soo finds her lazy since i noticed she doesn't move that well when onstage.

    Just speculating what he is thinking in that brain of his.

    If KKS finds her lazy simply because she doesn't move that well when onstage (which is due to being overworked and terribly exhausted and we all know whose fault is that), then by all means, he should be sent over to North Korea as packaged food for the people starving there.

  16. That's what she said, but like I said, it sounded like there were extenuating circumstances on a post she made on her Tumblr. She's since deleted it (which is suspicious in and of itself) but you can read the post in its entirety here: http://blog.ningin.c...nger-to-pledis/

    It sounds like she was given her pink slip by Pledis, and instead of making a fuss about it she left with her head held high and decided not to publicly call them out on it. Even this requires you to read in between the lines...but not all that much. And she wasn't necessarily correcting her fans and people who commented on the entry by saying it wasn't about Pledis...

    Ah I see. Now that you mention it, it could be quite related to Pledis' rather ridiculous and laughable member system. Makes me wonder who's the next one to get the boot in that group O.O

  17. I think it's the CEO who has to be replaced! :/ He changed,add and removed T-ara's members right from the beginning when T-ara started out as a 5 group member. Although I prefer the present T-ara members, but it took me a long time to accept Hwa Young as a T-ara member. Is there nothing the fans can do to stop the CEO from replacing our beloved members? T_T After all, without the fans, there's no T-ara. And adding more members to make it a 9 member group... it seems like he's just making excuses by accusing them of being lazy, just cause he wants to use T-ara's fame to make the group become one like SNSD's. :( And I thought their company was professional :/

    The only thing us fans can do is

    a) simply stop becoming fans if our favorite members are kicked out or the line-up is radically changed

    B) make a mob and attack CCM's HQ and lynch KKS

    c) don't buy anything about T-ara after April 7th

    d) assassinate KKS

    Of course, option B and D are quite imaginery at best.

    Sorry to burst your bubble but if you thought CCM was professional, you've been manipulated by them till now.

    CCM's level of management was always laughable and even downright pathetic.

  18. Oh you read my blog? Amazing! Thank you <3 Are you Brian?

    The thing with AKP is though, that even though they want me for opinion pieces and reviews (they are trying to boost their original editorial content now, rather than just news translations) I obviously can't say anything too crazy and controversial. I can't be on there trashing CCM hardcore or anything lol.

    But I would like to write something fun but serious with my thoughts about why T-ara should stay how they are. I can say it in a respectful way.

    I think T-ara would be scared to put up a fight and do a lawsuit against CCM. I wouldn't want CCM threatening them, such as leaking scandalous behind the scenes dirt that could ruin their careers. Many idols have huge scandals that the public don't know about it, and I wouldn't want CCM making T-ara's public.

    Frankly, I don't think the members would be too scared to fight back if they've been pushed around and bullied for long - as we all know, they're almost reaching their third year since debut and as GD of Big Bang said, idols get the tendency to rebel at that stage. Even if they go down the drains and become forgotten, they'd probably prefer that over having to be a mindless slave for that despicable sub-human for God-knows-how-long.

    Even if CCM leaks behind-the-scene scandals, the real question is whether the public will believe them or not by the time T-ara files a lawsuit. SM sure as hell didn't have much to leak out when DBSK and Han Geng went up against them and the only thing they could say was that JYJ were doing it for personal gain - which made them look like complete clowns who had little to no idea how to respond to the situation. CCM certainly didn't leak anything about Nam Gyuri when she left. If anything, leaking such scandals can even drag the police into the mess - last thing any talent agency would want is the police knocking on their doors with search warrants.

    As far as I know, lawsuits by idols usually gain sympathy and support from the public and the number of those that support the agencies is significantly lower. Hell, when KARA went up against DSP, virtually everyone I know that catches around with Kpop news sided with KARA - some even went as far as slandering DSP. Suffice to say, talent agencies in general at Korea don't really have much of a good reputation, although the Big Three may be an exception to a degree. The case of actress Jang Ja Yeon's suicide back in early 2009 in particular raised public awareness about the dark side of the talent agencies.

  19. I'd rather they all just leave as a whole and try to sign with a different agency. CCM obviously lacks competence as seen by this boneheaded move, and I don't think the girls are going to be any happier signed to different groups as long as they are under KKS's thumb. If anything that's exactly what he wants; for them to know that he can do as he wishes, at whatever point, without repercussion.

    Barring that, T-ara just wouldn't be T-ara unless each of the seven girls were present. I've grown to love each and every one of them for different reasons, and I'm sure a lot of fans echo this sentiment as well. I can deal with additions (although I don't think they're necessary), but I'm not sure how I would deal with a subtraction, unless it was something the member in question genuinely wanted. But I stan hardcore for them, so it may be a different case entirely with the more casual fan. But yeah, I just believe that they just work together very well; even with the obvious issues they have (tired performances, uneven line distribution, etc.) they have that "X-factor" as a group that makes people like them; they complement each other very well. To tamper with that is sheer lunacy.

    Anyways, the absolute WORST case scenario, in my opinion anyways, is that a member is kicked out and their contract with CCM is terminated prematurely, effectively giving them no place to go. It happened to Bekah in After School (if her Tumblr is to be believed)...it very well could happen to a member of T-ara. And if said member decided to take the Bekah route and leave gracefully instead of speaking out about what TRULY happened, then there really isn't much that could be done.

    Correct me but didn't Bekah leave AS because she wanted to become a designer? She even said she hoped to design an album for AS in the future

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