nathaniel Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 [12.12.20] Alcohol NO! Gambling OK? T-ara embroiled in new controversy in Japan T-ara being hired as the models for the Japanese Umi Montogatari Pachinko machine has become a controversy. In Japan, T-ara has been chosen to be the models of the new model of a pachinko machine called "CRA Deluxe Umi Montogatari". On the 24th, T-ara would go abroad to Japan for the launch event of the pachinko model. On the homepage of Yahoo! Japan, T-ara's "BO PEEP BO PEEP" concept pictures and ads for the pachinko ad can be found. The ads pictures are with Hwayoung, before she left T-ara. In Japan, pachinko machines are the most popular in the leisure product industry and are recognized as a source of gambling. Korean netizens have pointed out, "T-ara doesn't do ads for alcohol, but will do them for gambling?" Just a day before, T-ara's agency Core Contents Media said, "We think it's inappropriate for T-ara to appear in ads for alcohol and to cater to the youth drinking culture. T-ara has young fans and want to keep an image of suitable for all ages and thus decided they will not appear in it." T-ara's agency responded to the comments that the comments previously made are hypocritical and said, "It's true T-ara did ads for this product, but it's not a gambling product. Hallyu actors and KARA have also done advertisements for pachinko machines." *** Source: http://news.nate.com/view/20121220n14521 Translated by: Nathaniel @ Diadem T♔Ara to Queens♥, SimonH and hyominheart 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepystudent Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Have knetizens started bashing T-ara on being hypocrites yet? Guess they just want any reason to bash on T-ara.. pathetic really... I'm confused.. are pachinko machines gambling or not? o.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmEd Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 "Hallyu actors and KARA have also done advertisements for pachinko machines" And if they jumped off a cliff would you make T-ara do so as well? CCM really knows how to annoy people. raseuwan, LiveSeoul, Scatter_88mil and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ra7ningday Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Netizens, really. They really have the best chain of thought seriously. Those things seem like toys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klee95 Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 And yet another instance of CCM being inconsistent coming back to haunt them. Can't they make up their damn mind and stick to it? I admit netizens are probably looking for stuff to be annoyed about, but seriously CCM - either promote both, or none at all. Also, I agree with @iAmEd. I just hear this line "Hallyu actors and KARA have also done advertisements for pachinko machines" as being said in an unbelievably annoying, whiny voice .____. And yes, apparently pachinkos are often used for gambling purposes - seems like they're pretty much the Japanese version of slot machines. Direct gambling for money is illegal, but you exchange the balls for prizes and then can exchange that for money at a separate vendor so...basically, gambling. Scatter_88mil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-4R4 Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 i don't think it as a gambling product.. and i think T-ara will reject it if it's for gambling.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbot Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 <facepalm> CCM.. when are you going to learn. Get proffesional help for public relations!! Pachinko is actually more like the game machines in arcades that give you tickets that you can exchange for prizes (dolls, cigarettes etc.) only in the form of silverballs.. It's legally not considered as gambling but illegally you can exchange the silverballs with tokens/coins instead of prizes and usually in the back alleys near every pachinko shop you can "secretly" (though everyone knows) exchange the tokens with hard cash... .so legally its not a gambling machine (gambling is officially illegal in Japan) but they are being used by the Japanese underground for gambling. But since it is common knowledge for Japanese (doubt the girls know this) CCM should've known better. SilverPlume, babybooboo, Farnaz and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toan Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 knetizen's hatred toward T-Ara is still strong, confirmed. Whatever though, as long as CCM knows to clarify it to the public, it should be fine. I'm already used to knetizen and their stupid obsession with idols. Sleeping Ham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lillollipop12 Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Comment by rarakhunnie @ allkpop " CCM responded: "It is true that T-ara shot a CF for Pachinko but Pachinko is not gambling. Song Seung Hun, Bae Yong Jun, and even KARA shot CFs for it in the past." I had no idea what Pachinko was so, "Pachinko (パチンコ?) is a mechanical game originating in Japan and is used as both a form of recreational arcade game and much more frequently as a gambling device, filling a Japanese gambling niche comparable to that of the slot machine in Western gaming." 1. [+905, -10] I feel like I'm watching a sitcom whenever I read about them... A sitcom called Kwangsoo and the 7 idiots ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 2. [+700, -9] They didn't reject the alcohol CF because they didn't want to promote the wrong image to teens. They didn't do it because they knew they'd be hated on no matter what they did in Korea ㅋㅋ look at them trying to grab a piece of the pie in Japan now 3. [+595, -11] I honestly don't understand how what they're doing is logical at all. Don't they know that this is the time to quit the entertainment industry and try to find a career elsewhere for their future?" Those comments by k-netizens made me cry... This year unfortunately went downhill for T-ARA... Even though Eunjung thought this year would be T-ARAs year. I'm so sad right now... Japan, please love T-ARA right now^^ awesomemener, @Eunjung4eva, deedeeduck and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nganxu Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 WTH??? CCM always makes a lot of problems for T-ara!!! I really don't like the kind of news that T-ara doesn't do ads for alcohol...I think it would be better if CCM didn't announce that I think that news doesn't give T-ara any benefit, it's so weird. I will wait and see how CCM solves this problem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deedeeduck Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 KKS is seriously the worst CEO or whatever he is. He creates a group, but ends up destroying it. Why did he even put new members in the group in the first place? T-ara was amazing as 6 and their fame was skyrocketing. I feel so sad now. Those netizens aren't any better. They do what they are against. Such hypocrites. They are the BULLIES. Poor T-ara. Let's just hope 2013 will be a good year for them. Seeing them in sadness at those recent events, makes me really sad. babybooboo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.wishes Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Do netizens really have nothing else better to do than bash T-ara? And what is CCM doing? They really should just switch companies imlikeoky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danohio Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Seriously we all feel the same, poor girls aren't recovered from past controversy, yet there's another one. How much can they bear? Where is the end? I hope we can help somehow, but whatever we do, whoever help, that guy KKS will find the way to screw that up too. babybooboo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jieunhyo Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 This guys are just being too sensitive about everything T-ara does Yea gambling, but not like it's some serious casino gambling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klalic Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Wow, K-netizens... SMH. Pachinko is not for gambling like the casinos and such but it's like a game for entertainment ~.~ Stop bashing our girls >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
427o Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Halp, where can I get KKS's phone number, I need to tell him to STOP RUINING MY FAVORITE GROUP But seriously, if this too becomes a big issue, I think we're not going to see T-ara for a really long time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@Eunjung4eva Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Comment by rarakhunnie @ allkpop " CCM responded: "It is true that T-ara shot a CF for Pachinko but Pachinko is not gambling. Song Seung Hun, Bae Yong Jun, and even KARA shot CFs for it in the past." I had no idea what Pachinko was so, "Pachinko (パチンコ?) is a mechanical game originating in Japan and is used as both a form of recreational arcade game and much more frequently as a gambling device, filling a Japanese gambling niche comparable to that of the slot machine in Western gaming." 1. [+905, -10] I feel like I'm watching a sitcom whenever I read about them... A sitcom called Kwangsoo and the 7 idiots ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 2. [+700, -9] They didn't reject the alcohol CF because they didn't want to promote the wrong image to teens. They didn't do it because they knew they'd be hated on no matter what they did in Korea ㅋㅋ look at them trying to grab a piece of the pie in Japan now 3. [+595, -11] I honestly don't understand how what they're doing is logical at all. Don't they know that this is the time to quit the entertainment industry and try to find a career elsewhere for their future?" Those comments by k-netizens made me cry... This year unfortunately went downhill for T-ARA... Even though Eunjung thought this year would be T-ARAs year. I'm so sad right now... Japan, please love T-ARA right now^^ These comments of K-netizens were taken from Nate and were translated to English!! K-netizens comments are translated and posted in certain site and all haters come there to bash T-ara. Believe me, you will cry when you see that!! Knowing less is medicine!! Now I really dont know what to do with KKS. I am just wishing for a MIRACLE with crossed fingers!! babybooboo, awesomemener, Farnaz and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transcendental Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 I think this is it for T-ara and CCM. They aren't profiting as they used to be, hence all the overeas promotions, and as the Idol age is soon coming to an end, it's gonna be really hard for them to recover their hard-earned status Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lillollipop12 Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 These comments of K-netizens were taken from Nate and were translated to English!! K-netizens comments are translated and posted in certain site and all haters come there to bash T-ara. Believe me, you will cry when you see that!! Knowing less is medicine!! Now I really dont know what to do with KKS. I am just wishing for a MIRACLE with crossed fingers!! I know... It's like a war zone there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatter_88mil Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 This gives me a bigger suspicion that the alcohol CF deal was likely just a lie for PR - a terrible PR tactic, to be precise now that the timing is considered. I agree with klee95 and iAmEd here. People need to goddamn see that while netizens can be a bunch of whacks, the damage they do can be ultimately recovered from through time and laying low. However, damage from the agency is just asking for trouble to brew up if it's not fixed ASAP and looking at CCM's record, fixing internal problems is next to impossible for it. These guys are burning T-ara down to the ground and it seems like their management tactics/strategies, excuses and all that are becoming far more pathetic for every dumb public announcement they make. I don't see ANY way T-ara can recover from CCM's sheer idiocy in the long run. Anyone wondered why DBSK split? Internal issues between the group and SM. Not exterior ones like antis or netizens. The way I see it, idol groups seem more frail to internal damage than external. "Hallyu actors and KARA have also done advertisements for pachinko machines." I don't know about actors but KARA is massively big in Japan. T-ara pales in comparison. CCM seriously needs to stop dragging other groups in articles such as this. It's stupid and childish. Hell, it even looks like CCM still has some sort of bitter hatred towards KARA simply over a lawsuit way back in 2010 that didn't even involve CCM itself in the first place. Again - stupid and childish. Full stop. babybooboo and SilverPlume 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbot Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 What everyone forgot to mention is that Pachinko is not a problem for teenagers, its a game for adults, teenagers can't get anywhere near the parlors ..while teenagers drinking alcohol is a serious problem. Still KKS should get kicked in the balls for taking the endorsement.. is not like its that lucrative of a deal anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babybooboo Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Argh seriously ... D: CCM makes the situation worse... and those K-netizens ..... I really hope that old fatty ceo will die or someone could replace him.. D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiC Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 LOLLLL .... dude ... the k-netizens make it hard for PR ... i give them that ... but KKS ... He's on another level than us ... He trying wayyyy too hard to get T-ara famous ... i rather let T-ara's talent bring them to fame than to have these low blows(kara) make them known ... Like i said tho ... Maybe this KKS knows what he is doing (nah .. not really) Sleeping Ham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farnaz Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 when will all these dramas finish? when? I'm just worried about girls! how far will they stand hates? I hope they stay strong... KKS is just ruining them:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeping Ham Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 This headline is so ..... =___=|| Wake up in the morning having bad feeling when I think of T-ara. Direct check on AKP since well, they always have the worst news out for T-ara, sees this headline. Comes to Diadem,see the same headline and I was like: "There we go again...." I don't know if Pachinko machine is really gambling machine since some use as arcade games and few used as slot machines like in casinos but the part that goes "KARA did it too" was totally made me imagine KKS as a whiny kid talking in a whiny voice~ One moment T-ara gets praised for rejecting alcoholic CF, the next.... *BAM* criticized. Because of this type of flowing, I'm putting the "No news is good news" theory on T-ara. Zzzz DAMN YOU KKS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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