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Enough with this "We want the truth!" nonsense. Quite frankly I'm sick of hearing people say this. If we're meant to hear what truly happened, it's not going to be because a bunch of fans, ex-fans, antis, or T-Jinyo pressured T-ara into speaking publicly about it, it will be because T-ara as a group feels comfortable enough to do so. The girls are probably in a fragile state of mind right now, hence why we haven't seen them once since this whole scandal erupted. They're probably in no condition to be making public appearances, and God only knows what's going on behind the scenes of this whole scandal. Stop focusing on something that doesn't involve you directly, it was never an issue involving fans to begin with. The biggest concern is that T-ara as a group resolves this, not whether or not you as a fan hear the truth. Anyways, the hidden subtext is that you want to hear them admit that they bullied someone, which may or may not have been the case; if they say anything else besides that you'll probably continue to call them liars. And if you truly are a Christian, your primary concern will be that the girls are okay, not whether or not they speak out about this matter any time soon. You should be praying that Jiyeon, Eunjung, Soyeon, Hyomin, Boram, Qri, Areum, and Hwayoung are all okay and are being watched over by whatever higher power they choose to believe in.15 points
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I would consider this a positive step for KKS in becoming a better CEO. I think what a lot of people fail to realize is that this is not only a learning experience for T-ara, but for KKS as well. Hopefully he will learn that slave driving like the way he does will cause T-ara to be more stressed. Which will in turn lead to internal conflicts. Also, "I consider all the T-Jinyo and Sajeongyeon members to be people who love T-ara" ... What? I'm pretty sure a lot of the people in T-Jinyo are antis looking to cause trouble.14 points
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[12.08.04] Backlash after T-ara appears on "Sebakwi", "We demand an apology"
aydan09 and 10 others reacted to The_Thomas for a topic
hmmm.... The only thing I can say to the people demanding an apology is Grow up. That is just ridiculous...11 points -
If they didn't like it, why didn't they switch off their damn tvs or change the channel instead of watching T-ara throughout the whole show? If you hate something, just stay away from it. I know it's a tv show but they had a choice. i change the channel whenever I see someone that I despise on tv. It seems like the netizens hate T-ara A LOT but yet they seem to be more interested in T-ara compared to their fans. I hope MBC doesn't succumb to the pressure by these ignorant netizens and apologize.10 points
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stop being immature people wouldn't believe whatever he said so stop asked about the truth it's t-ara internal problem so public must not know about it there's something that public must know and there's something public must not know... and now he send apology to public, t-ara, hwayoung and their parents8 points
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Atleast, he apologize to both sides (T-ara & Hwayoung).. He put his ego a side. Credit to him.. I believe T-ara will getting stronger after this issue.. I want they know that their real fans always support them no matter what happens.. Good luck to them.. Hope after this, people will learn to thinks first before make an assumptions.. People who believe those rumors is not a smart person.. nuff to say.8 points
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KKS didn't cause this mess, he didn't start the stupid rumors. Only provided vague explanations and people refused to believe ANYTHING that he mentioned. It was started by hater's rumors, spread by fools and believed by idiots after all. And no matter what he says or Hwayoung OR even other people, haters just refuse to believe anything unless it fits into their "t-ara bullied hwayoung" scenario with their out of context evidence. I mean com'on T-ara may have outcasted Hwayoung or Hwayoung may have acted arrogant, no one knows the truth yet people just keep bashing all these people causing them so much sufferings.7 points
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[12.08.04] CEO Kim Kwangsoo public apology, "One misunderstanding lead to another misunderstanding" CEO Kim Kwangsoo of Core Contents Media has revealed a handwritten apology. On August 4th, Core Contents Media said, "On the 3rd, CEO Kim Kwangsoo met with the owner of Sajeongyeon 아르빛 (Nickname) and talked about the misunderstandings between the two." After this, Kim Kwangsoo has released a public handwritten apology to the press. He said in his public apology, "This is Core Contents Media's CEO Kim Kwangsoo. After Hwayoung's contract was terminated, there were many people who misunderstood what was said and lead to more misunderstandings about bullying and a blur to what happen. I apologize and bow my head." He continued to talk about T-Jinyo, Saejeongyeon and T-ara's anti-cafes. "There is a lot of love for T-ara. I consider all the T-Jinyo and Sajeongyeon members to be people who love T-ara. I would like to thank the many who held interest and concerns and watched over T-ara and will meet with whoever necessary to clear the air." He also talked about Hwayoung, who stands in the middle of the controversy. "I hope that she finds an agency that will help her study music and become a better rapper and artist. Please give a lot of interest and support to Hwayoung's next move in music." He finished with a comment on himself which was, "I'll strive to be more careful and not as reckless in front of the public's eyes. Again, I'd like to apologize for causing a lot of misunderstandings and a lot of social interest over this topic," he finished. *** Source: http://news.nate.com/view/20120804n07298 Translated by: Nathaniel @ Diadem6 points
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[12.08.04] Backlash after T-ara appears on "Sebakwi", "We demand an apology"
shirlyn611 and 4 others reacted to iAmEd for a topic
"We're sorry we didn't edit a few guests in our show so that the show wouldn't have gaps in the middle" I mean come on really? What are they going to do with the apology? What's been aired has been aired.5 points -
someone wrote this on tumblr Everyone wants the truth, but when they do tell the truth, no one believes them. Why? Because it’s not the truth that they want to hear. You all just want the truth that would benefit your side the most. You want your truth because you don’t want to be wrong for bashing T-ara as much as you did. No truth will ever be enough for you at all. When people show this truth, no one wants to believe that they were wrong and they’ll come up with excuses to prove otherwise. You can’t just blindly pick a side without knowing both side of the story. You all believed Hwayoung’s side, but when someone posts T-ara’s side, no one wants to believe it. Why? You were shown the whole truth, not just small part of a clip edited and posted as bullying. We just have to live with the fact that no truth will ever be enough for some people. No matter what you do, how you show it, how sorry you are, no one will care because it’s not what they want to see or hear. T-ara was successful before Hwayoung and I’m sure that they can become successful again with the support of their fans. Hwayoung learned to be an idol and a good rapper and I’m sure that she will be successful in the future as well. I hope that netizens will stop pushing this matter more. I think T-ara,Hwayoung, their families and friends have already suffered enough because of this. If you really want to make a difference in life and prevent bullying, then go to schools, talk to kids, make organizations,ect. Just sitting behind a computer and making/joining T-Jinyo won’t do you any actual good in the cause that you want to help. They can turn T-Jinyo into an organization that helps prevent bullying in schools,workplace,ect. Make a protest for something actually meaningful.5 points
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Doesn't apologizing after you mess something up make sense? It does to me...5 points
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[12.08.04] Backlash after T-ara appears on "Sebakwi", "We demand an apology"
babybooboo and 3 others reacted to min young for a topic
what the xxxx they ask apology? who are they? god?prime minister?president? did one of their family die when watch this show? they are the one who supposed to apology to t-ara....i just don't get it why in this world still have stupid people plus in my country..such ashamed when i read at youtube comment some said like this 'to those stupid korean netizens i really hate you,sorry korean netizens after what happen to t-ara i realize some of korean people is the evil,scariest people in this world'4 points -
Netizens with their "evidence" & WHY the team crew should to apology if those rumors only a RUMORS.. "340,000" netizens only know how to bash people in internet. but when T-.jinyo ask them to do a protest. Where're all of those netizens? =_=4 points
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I am sorry that you no longer are as supportive of T-ara because of peer pressure. I have cousins in their early teens that tease me for listening to k-pop; I don't care what anybody thinks. When I listen to them, I do it because I enjoy their music. True, T-ara will be affected by this controversy, even if the rumors are true. I will still support them because I believe in second chances. They have provided me 3 years of listening pleasure and I will continue to support all 11 members, past, present and future.4 points
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because of this controversy, t-ara members will be too stress in the future esp in variety shows because everyone will watch them more closely and their interaction with the new members... this will be too tiring for them, i mean having no rest no sleep and then be judge for little things now when attending shows will affect the girls surely. i hope ccm have realize this things and stop adding new members already..The old members have no time and energy to babysit new members and expect them to be lovey dovey all the time. gosh thinking about all the public attention when the girls do variety shows and inspect their interaction is giving me a headache3 points
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this is exactly the reason why he should keep quite and not say anything. he has again and again mentioned that problem lies with hwa. even over here he mentions it is not bullying. even after him saying so many things you still want the truth . that itself shows how pointless it as as you just want to hear one thing and one thing only. If i came across as rash in that comment i apologize. i just wanted to let out some steam when i saw your comment. but even then like ryan said the people want to only hear one thing as the truth.3 points
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[12.08.02] Jo Harang comment on T-ara's situation "It must stop now!"
babybooboo and one other reacted to shining star`★ for a topic
[12.08.02] Jo Harang comment on T-ara's situation "It must stop now!" Jo Harang decided to speak about T-ara's current situation of bullying. Jo Harang tweeted on July 30th, "You're here, but you're invisible. One day feels like a year, breathing is easy but you feel uneasy. The entertainment industry has the same environment as schools, companies, societies, institutes...This witch-hunting must stop for sure!" The next day, Jo Harang continued to post on Twitter this: "Starting from a young age, children start to acknowledge that you need to work hard in life [to get what you want], and you focus on this so much that you don't put any of your time into building a "relationship" and lack social skills. Lacking the experience of having a social life and troubles to maintain a relationship doesn't fade away when you suddenly elevate yourself into a high position (celebrey/famous)." Jo Harang was a member of "Jewelry", a group that also had to face a bullying controversy in the past, with her being the "witch-hunted member." Jo Harang tweeted again 31th July, exposing her uncomfortable heart: "The problem is brought by the public with a witch-hunt, even if it's not true [the rumor of bullying]. It was hard for me, back then, to have to read such articles [about me]. It is important [for T-ara] to overcome this and to live in the present." Netizens have reacted to these tweets saying thing like "Jo Harang seems to have troubles in her heart", "it seems that even idols are now refocusing themselves on the truth." "We need to brush off [this rumor] now" **** Source: http://news.nate.com.../20120802n30382 Translated by: shining star`★ @diadem *Usually don't post articles about Tweets from T-ara/other celebrities in the news section but this is different because she went through the same exact situation as the T-ara members being "witch-hunted."2 points -
Seriously, if they knew t-ara was going to appear in that show, why did they even bother watching. I mean they watched the show so that they would get pissed and have something to complain about? That's just retarded.2 points
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Just another day of hearing idiots' complaint. Bring it on. correction: "idiotic K-fans & netizens"2 points
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Hmm....I don't agree with this part because first of all even if they face the media; no one will believe because the damage has already been done. Therefore facing the media is not neccessarily the best choice since if they face media immediately....news will just make a big deal and go all crazy again. Therefore it does not put an end to this. However, letting them take a break for a while is the best choice because they need to work out every problems they have within first then learn from it and improve. In society they are known as "bullies" already. Even though there is no concrete evidence of the situation happening, but people will still label them as that even if they make a statement. If you give time into the situation a bigger news will come out then others will focus on that. That is how media works in modern days2 points
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is this the first time he apologizes? right? i would say, "Thank you CEO" because at least you show us that you can actually eat your pride right now and admitted that you are kinda wrong. I hope you realize that adding new members to the popular group and removing a member who already had so much fans is really not a good decision. I think he really realized that his popular group, who has brought him tons of wealth, is now under a hard time. It really all started with adding members for real. But I'm really afraid to admit that, though i really don't want to admit, because of this letter, it really seemed like T-ara image are really damage big time. I wished that this will be one step to be a better CEO and for him to realized that caring to people around you is a must. I also wished that T-ara will regain their popularity step by step again and hopefully members need to at least clarify their posts not posting in a confusing way. I believe that after this incident, T-ara will show us another side of them, and stronger and careful than before.T-ara fighting!2 points
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to all those who wants the girls to tell the truth i have only 3 things to say which have already been mentioned here a) i dont think they are in a mental state to face the media right now if they say the exact same thing as kks how many ppl would believe them c) to force them to say the truth and keep asking for it is not right i think and makes their situation only worse. the most we can do is keep supporting them and wait for them to say about it when they are comfortable about it. not whenwe want them to say it.2 points
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All I see is someone who is trying so hard to save his business and the kids he has been looking after for three years since their debut. What's so wrong about it? All of the things that he did is only to save his kids (T-ara). Even a panda would strive to hit anyone who tries to hurt her kids. People should stop bad mouthing others, as if they have made no mistakes at all.2 points
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[12.08.02] Jo Harang comment on T-ara's situation "It must stop now!"
babybooboo and one other reacted to chelksea for a topic
Atleast she defends T-ara, not like other groups that are trying to avoid them so that they won't get associated with T-ara's controversy. This just shows that there is still hope for fellow Idols and artists2 points -
i am half korean/malaysian...and i just join international fansite like this (diadem) coz i don't know much about korean language... i'm in Malaysia right know...my friend just said that t-ara situation is really bad but not much if compare when first day this stupid issue happen..i will ask my friend and after i receive it i will inform here okay1 point
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what about me??guys please don't hate me....because i'm kqueen's too1 point
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[12.08.04] Backlash after T-ara appears on "Sebakwi", "We demand an apology"
aydan09 reacted to The_Thomas for a topic
apparently TV's in Korea have one channel and you can't change it when something you don't like comes on1 point -
that is why I think it's best for the party involved to handle this problem with public because only they (T-ARA and Hwayoung) know what happened and only they themselves have the credibility to speak about this bullying rumor, seeing that people can't ever accept a word coming from their CEO. personally, I never believed on the bullying thing because it seems so unlikely for them. what I think happened, is that they have some disagreement (which is common in any group), but they decided to take things public (through twitter). that's where it all started. they 'showed' themselves to public, they should've correct things the way they started. the public didn't see T-ARA as 'bullies'. HATERS + ANTIS, sees them as bullies. and we all know, HATERS + ANTIS have no place and rights to be with public regarding this matters, seeing that they only viewing this problem 'one way'. still, I respect and understand your view+opinion on this matters.1 point
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I wish I could have been happy with KKS's recent decisions, but it's a little late for all of this. No one will believe him even if he's telling the truth. (which I believe that he is, after all these years) Whatever the truth is, we'll never know. Lies fabricated by every side will conceal the real truth forever. People wants to hear something that makes them happy, that's 'the truth' for them right now. It's too late for the girls to come out and say anything. It's something that should have been done on July 30th or earlier. I don't blame the girls because CCM prevent them from doing it, but they'll have to pay a lot more after this. T-ara's rise to popularity isn't by talent, it's by determination and personality. People like them because they are humble and friendly. It' sad that this incident took out one of T-ara's unique points out even if the accusations was a lie. Whatever happens, I'll support T-ara. At least CCM and T-ara have learn a valuable lesson. And KKS realized that he can't do anything he pleases anymore. I guess that's a good start.1 point
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Last time I checked, Miss A and f(x) certainly were nowhere near close to T-ara's popularity this year, despite f(x)'s surge of popularity from Electric Shock - which can only be attributed from the fact that their comeback was long anticipated since they'd been inactive from the music scene since last summer. F(x) doesn't even have its own official fanclub yet and as said before, Miss A is heavily reliant on Suzy only to keep them relevant - actually, Miss A's situation is even similar to 4minute - one member gets everything, the rest get nothin' and are easily forgotten. And T-ara? Little promotions? What the hell are you smoking? Dramas, variety shows, more comebacks than any other group this year along, tight schedules and long hours of practice up to the point they probably have the shortest hours of sleep/rest of all Kpop groups there - and you call it 'little' promotions? Sorry but that is just a complete insult to the work they've done with blood, tears and sweat. You've got a lot of guts to say they promote very little because it's the complete opposite of that. And no, SISTAR is not reliant solely on talent, bud. They too had been promoting quite a bit this year - nowhere near T-ara's level, but enough to get them more known out there while even having the potential to take over T-ara's popularity at the same time. Face it, pal - T-ara's way of success has put an excessive cost on their mental and physical health more than any other majorly popular idol group - and there's enough information to read about that. CCM's making them work like slaves and judging from your words, I'd even go as far to say that you're ACCEPTING that kind of inexcusable system of management.1 point
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it's different between succes and popular.... t-ara got succes but their popularity among int fans still lack compare to missa and fx...but they got more succes than fx and miss a for sistar......it's called talent......we must admit it...sistar more talented than t-ara......sistar is like davichi.....little promotion but their song always hit and regonized by public... every idol have different way to get popularity and succes.....T-ARA 2NE1 F(x)..they all different yes......i think this is bussines.....of course he know who will give him more money if i him...i will choose t-ara too esp original, harmony, and soul of t-ara still in group1 point
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I have to agree. I think that people who are still demanding for the truth just wants more fuel to feed into the drama. The main thing is that it's an internal problem that's no one's business but T-ara and Hwayoung. Everyone just needs time to grow and move on from this experience. Let the recovery begin...1 point
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[12.08.03] CEO Kim Kwangsoo to T-Jinyo: "Come meet with me"
hyominheart reacted to sneajette for a topic
according to the update t-jinyo changed their mind in meeting with ccm and insisted to meet on our girls...though, kks could have solve it by making our girls clarified the issue rather than him making all the clarifications..but maybe, he thinks that t-ara still is very emotional right now that's why he is the one doing all the talk, if im right on that atleast he is really being a father/a friend to them rather than just their ceo.. but anyway, my opinion on t-jinyo was, days before their said protest they're so proud and but on their scheduled date they just backout like that, it just prove that t-jinyo's are just good with words but in reality they're just bunch of cowardly kids.. why can't they just stop, t-ara's fellow idols who had met and worked with t-ara supported them but t-jinyo and the haters who didn't even had a chance on meeting and working with them judge like as if they had been with t-ara..1 point -
even people said KKS cant handle problem.... i will said KKS really good at this i remember about jiyeon scandal........now everthing is okay now.. and stop blame KKS....actually she not wrong.....he protect her idol....give her idol good image with let ppl bash him you said KKS stupid or dont have brain......you are wrong.....he put her energy to make t-ara succes......if t-ara in this situation it because haters and netizen kicked hwayoung maybe the best way...if hwayoung still in t-ara...we dont know how many time they will get this rumour again hwayoung leve t-ara wont make any damage for t-ara.......the main of t-ara still here..... sorry my english so bad1 point
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As much as I'm surprised to hear about this, I can't help but think this could be another possible publicity stunt to some form of degree, regardless if he's learnt from this or not. This is KKS we're talking about after all - and he certainly did not pull off any sort of apology to anyone when Nam Gyuri and 5dolls' Soomi followed a similar fate as Hwayoung did. What makes T-ara such a spectacular exception in regards to him apologizing? He's clearly lopped the top off others previously. He may as well be trying to regain whatever credibility he had was lost, if the timing is considered. Until he's going to treat the girls better, start putting some serious reforms as WELL as listening to whatever complaints and demands the group has to their labor rights and the like, I'm not fully buying this at all. There needs to be more than just a simple public apology. No, he needs to apologize to everyone. Not just the public, but T-ara as well for being the deep and sole root of this entire debacle. He has much more to compensate for.1 point
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[12.08.03] Hwayoung not focusing on signing a new contract right now
Jiyeoniixx reacted to UekiKousuke for a topic
Take your time Hwayoung... Get some rest... Now, that you are not in T-ara anymore, I'll still support you... Because you are always a T-ara member in my heart... Good luck... I wish you success in your future career. Hwayoung fighting!!!1 point -
i hate KKS to the death but i agree with his decision on this. that stupid kids from T-jinyo need a lesson from the mighty troll monster KKS too i hope they will sue AKP too, full of fake1 point
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[12.08.02] Jo Harang comment on T-ara's situation "It must stop now!"
babybooboo reacted to nathaniel for a topic
None of the other members defended her because it was after they all left Jewelry. Seo Inyoung said she was bullied when she joined, and people automatically assumed it was her and Jihyun and bashed them continuously (mostly Harang) but nobody got involved. :/ I think something did happen between Seo Inyoung and the other members for real though, but people always blow up the situation and make assumptions without evidence just like in T-ara's case.1 point -
[12.08.02] Jo Harang comment on T-ara's situation "It must stop now!"
babybooboo reacted to rabiatul for a topic
glad there is another person comment about it..indeed..stop now..this is too much..most of idol group have this kind of problem it just t-ara doesn't have luck with it when netizen bluntly gives bad comment n rumor..they didn't have evidence at all..twisted the fact..kpop really have to think, i mean take care of this issues very well..it should be more healthier..gosh, i'm bad with word..huhu..t-ara hwaiting..i will always support t-ara no matter what happen..i t-ara..1 point -
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