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  1. Another freaking BIG announcement! I'm kinda getting tired of hearing something like this from CCM regarding T-ara. Can't they make up their mind for once which direction they are going to head with this group?! Personally, I would be really happy if they announce that Dani won't join T-ara anymore and not about removal of members, reprimanding the girls and shaming them publicly, again. Just read the AKP article about the tweets. Antis and bashers are having a feast in there, but since no one really knows what happens off stage and off cam, no one is in any position to pass judgment on the girls. I feel like us fans have gone through so much also while supporting T-ara. I'm sure we'll also get past this. Supporting Boram, Qri, Soyeon, Eunjung, Hyomin, Hwayoung and Jiyeon all the way!
    11 points
  2. 9 points
  3. Omg... I don't like this feeling at all... "big announcement"?? It could be good... or very bad... I don't like the wait >.< STRESS!
    8 points
  4. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post links to external websites, but if you guys want to know about the tweets, check out Oniontaker's blog, he has them all translated. And let's not be too concerned with netizens blowing this out of proportion. Most of them are likely anti-fans of T-ara, and they will use anything they can to try and ruin T-ara's reputation. Most of them don't even care about these tweets or anything else, they're just having fun trolling us fans. T-ara's current popularity just makes them a bigger target. Just ignore the stupid comments.
    6 points
  5. Eh, guys... All of them talk about ''determination'' Hyomin: ''Let us all have more determination'' - Who must let them? A leader. Jiyeon: ''The differences in levels of determination ^^, Always be humble ^^ and sensible ^^ I applaud you, acting genius ^^” - A leader has to be humble. Eunjung: “A position can make or break a person, but determination can make a person too. Sigh, it’s unfortunate. You have to know to take care of the people around you.” - Position: Leader. / You HAVE TO know how to take care of the people around you. Hwayoung: “Sometimes, even determination alone is not enough. At times like these, I feel upset but I trust that it’s a blessing in disguise from the heavens. God, you know everything right? 2 things come to my mind. 1.-Maybe Hwayoung's time to be the leader has come. 2.-Maybe they're not talking about Hwayoung... maybe they're talking about someone with more power there. Maybe they didn't want Hwayoung to perform in her state and they're acting sarcastic with the one who let her perform like that. Whatever, Hwayoung tweeted something about fans and her family. T-ara is like a family. I've just read the whole tweets and I think that netizens are overreacting. It looks like they are talking about the concert. Well, except Eunjung XD. Jiyeon and Hyomin talked about having more determination for their next concert.
    5 points
  6. I'm not Korean and not read Korean statement about the matter. And I know people start bashing Jiyeon, Eunjung & Hyomin about the twitter......Before you all start saying that i'm bias for the big 3 just read it first. This isn’t a biased opinion at all. As much as I may like T-ara but I’m not a die hard fan of them. i've just starting as Jiyeon, eunjung & hyomin fan and I have nothing against Hwayoung. This is what I personally think on the matter. The CEO should had left T-ara as just the 6 of them. If he really wanted more girls in a group, he should had created another girl group instead of bringing in additional members. Let them make their own name for themselves. Plus, it seems like Hwayoung is playing victim role right now and seeking support for something the fans aren’t even sure what’s going on. Instead of being on twitter, she should just wait until their CEO makes a statement. Wait until everything cools off and hope for the better. Then why is this happened? We should think about it..... hwa posting all those tweets when they’re already in a somewhat controversy right now? If she really think about T-ara she Shouldn’t post anything on those social media and the rest of the members just lay low for awhile? Or maybe Hwayoung misunderstood and thought it was for her... and I don't personally think that it was addressed to Hwayoung. That’s just make more war between their fans since the fans don’t really have a clue what’s going on, and what does 3 member really meant when they were writing those tweets. Also, those who are bashing Eunjung,Hyomin and Jiyeon right now, do you even know the whole story about the tweets and What they meant and who they were for? We are only assuming things right now because of Hwayoung’s injury. So we bash them now, but what if we were wrong? I surely hope that we don’t try to be hypocrite and say that we knew that they wouldn’t say something like that after all the bashing we were doing. Hwayoungahhhhhh you should clear & explain the whole thing, so the fans can calm down and for them to decide what side to take regarding this matter. I'm sure Eunjung, Jiyeon and Hyomin cry about this matter.....Jiyeon as always got bashing............and got hard time since debut as her fan i'm always.........Hwaiting....May god bless...just wait until the CEO makes whatever statement he has to make regarding this twitter controversy.
    5 points
  7. To be honest, I'm a person who aren't looking forward to that announcement. It can't be a good news. I got very worried about the tweeting incident since last night.
    5 points
  8. Whenever KKS will have an announcement like this, it makes me really nervous. I'm getting a bad feeling about this.
    5 points
  9. If you read the tweets translated by oniontaker the t-ara members tweet wasn't an issue or joke they were just talking. Only after you read Hwayoung tweet does the previous tweet's become an issue, regardless of if they were tweeting about her or not I think Hwayoung should've just kept silent and nothing would've happened. I'm not blaming Hwayoung but if your a public figure you should think before you post stuff because different people will read your words and think of a different meaning to the one you wrote.
    4 points
  10. Honestly I think the people saying the tweets are not insults are being very unrealistic. Hwayoung's reaciton, her sister's reaction and the multiple tweets they made about Hwayoung feeling hurt about them show that the tweets were insults. The fact that CCM then said the T-ara girls who tweeted that to Hwayoung had their twitter accounts hacked is CCM saying "Yes these are insults...but they weren't by the members since their accounts were hacked." So that settles for me whether they were 'jokes' or 'insults'. They were insults. Whether you want to believe someone managed to hack 5 T-ara member accounts and posted all around the same time, that's up to you. So in my opinion this all comes down to whether Hwayoung is at fault or the other T-ara members(excluding Qri who didn't tweet) are at fault. I think there's really only two possible reasons for those tweets to have happened. Reason #1: Hwayoung is at fault and deserves what was said on twitter. Hwayoung really is lazy and doesn't work hard. She joined a top idol group after they worked hard to get to this point and she has just kind of coasted and not worked as hard as the other members feel she could. She immediately put herself out there like she was an original member of T-ara even though she was new. Eunjung took painkillers with a screwed up ankle just to be able to perform on regular Korean music shows for Lovey Dovey and Hwayoung would not do something similar for a lesser injury in order to perform on a very important Japanese concert. The members finally hit their max frustration levels and attacked her on twitter for that reason. Reason #2: Hwayoung isn't at fault and has been bullied by the other members. T-ara did not want a new member and has never accepted Hwayoung. She has been ostracized and bullied since joining the group and feels more comfortable with other trainees or members in other groups because T-ara hasn't made her feel welcome. T-ara already had a 3:3 split (Hyomin/Jiyeon/Eunjung and Soyeon/Qri/Boram) and so she was never able to fit into either group. Hwayoung got hurt and couldn't perform and the members saw it as a chance to once again attack her and make her look bad and maybe even get her kicked out of the group by making her look unprofesional. Personally I think it is more #2 than #1. I think the members didn't like Hwayoung being added to the group and I think they resented Kim Kwang Soo for adding her (and now more members to T-ara and calling the original members 'lazy'). I think this twitter attack against Hwa Young was more of an attack against Kim Kwang Soo sort of like "See? You called us lazy and told us we didn't work hard enough and you keep adding members because of it. Well one of these members didn't even perform at our Japanese concert because she's 'hurt' while we have had members take painkillers to perform hurt."
    4 points
  11. I don't buy that especially Soyeon would publicly insult any member on twitter. Apart from being the current leader, she's rather mature and a good speaker, she knows better than this. I just don't buy the whole incident. Haters gonna hate.
    4 points
  12. SEE CCM THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MESS WITH THE ORIGINAL 7ARA . ADDING IN 2 UNNEEDED MEMBERS TO T-ARA . I WILL LAUGH AT YOUR FACE IF T-ARA ACTUALLY ENDS BECAUSE OF YOUR STUPID ACTIONS OF THEM 'NOT WORKING HARD AND WANT THEM TO WORK HARD' LETS SEE HOW YOU ARE GONNA MILK MONEY FROM GANGKIZ AND 5DOLLS . stupid ccm is stupid
    4 points
  13. It was apparently a twitter issue you can look online some people translated the tweets but again for me is not insulting I don't get the messages. But netizens say they (members) were insulting Hwayoung in a sarcastic way for not being able to perform with them
    4 points
  14. wth is a very big announcement ... why the heck will he wait three days to make it ... such a jerk of a ceo
    4 points
  15. [OFFICIAL] Soyeon for KBS Haeundae Lovers drama (07.28) Credit : http://www.kbs.co.kr...hoto/index.html + Adiprasatya + tiaradiadem.com
    3 points
  16. Honestly, I'm not really thrilled with anybody right now, save for Qri and Areum, who wisely decided to sit this one out. Eunjung, Jiyeon and Hyomin should've known better than to make comments that could've been taken out of context on a social networking site like Twitter, Boram and Soyeon should've taken the mature route and not said anything at all (especially since they went ahead and deleted their tweets anyways), and Hwayoung shouldn't have added fuel to the fire by calling for a bid for public sympathy. None of them are impressing me right now, their behavior is reminiscent of twelve-year-old girls, so maybe Dani's inclusion shouldn't be such a shock anymore since their mentality is probably closer to her than we thought. And before anybody says anything, I still love them and will continue supporting them, but this whole ordeal is just ridiculous. Anyways, back on topic...I agree that maybe this is all a blessing in disguise. As I sat last night thinking about everything, the one thing that kept crossing my mind is how when idols get involved in scandals too big to be swept under the rug, they are usually put on an extended hiatus to let things cool down. If ever there was a time that such an action was appropriate, it's now. Day By Day showed us that T-ara has enough power to their name that they can withstand some controversy, what with the member changes and everything, but for KKS to keep them on track for two or more comebacks for this year alone isn't going to help matters. Sexy Love/Mirage and T-ara's Effect need to be put on the backburner until next year, and these 8 (maybe soon to be 9, who knows at this point) need to sit down, have a pow-wow, sing a couple of bars of Kumbaya, and GROW UP. All of them. As far as a member leaving goes, I've heard some interesting theories about Hwayoung...that she's actually been rumored to want to leave for some time, and that the member's tweets are actually in reply to her deciding that she's going to leave, and them questioning her level of dedication to the group. If that IS the case, I can somehow understand their frustration with her, but even then all of this Twitter mess is just driving me crazy. It's not that they had problems with each other, that's understandable, it's that all of their dirty laundry is being aired out in public, and they're the ones who seem to be responsible. Sorry, I'm just venting right now. I guess it's all of my frustrations over the past few months finally coming out all at once. I still love T-ara and hope for the best for them and will continue to support them, but I seriously hope they get put on an extended break, both for their sake and for the fan's sake. It's just not fair to keep f*cking with the fandom like this. EDIT: I was so busy ranting that I forgot to say apology accepted lol. But yeah, we're good, if there's anything good that's come out of this mess it's that I've realized that it's time for me to wake up. T-ara had a good run but they're just as fallible and prone to error as anyone else; time to be realistic about their current situation. You're absolutely right about one thing; Queen's need to brace themselves, the proverbial sh!t is about to hit the fan.
    3 points
  17. I hope this fansite of T-ARA didn'd look like any other site that always bashing our girls !!! but I realize NO ! many fans without concern in our T-ARA, please don't make any terrible comment about any member in T-ARA just like AKP or any other site!!!!!!! are you still considered as Queen's ??? T-ARA hwaiting!!!
    3 points
  18. If T-ara had stayed a 6 members group, none of this would have ever happened and the bond between the members (without this competition thing) would have never ceased to increase. Who's the one responsible of the crazy schedule, the concepts, the lines distribution, the new members addition, in short, responsible of everything ? Not Hyomin, not Jiyeon, not Eunjung etc. but KKS.
    3 points
  19. You're right, Boram never did follow Hwayoung to begin with. Most people just automatically assumed that she followed her because they were members of the same group, lol. Honestly, this situation has become nothing short of frustrating to watch unfold. The ambiguity of it all is what's driving me crazy. To begin with, I don't know what to make of the five who originally started the Twit convo in the first place. When it was just the five of them it seemed like a relatively innocent conversation, nothing horrible or out of the ordinary...they just sounded like they were trying to give someone a pep talk. Then Hwayoung and Hyoyoung chimed in, then Hwayoung's rap teacher, and that's where it all went to hell in a handbasket. If the five of them were guilty of bullying (and reading their messages I still have a hard time seeing it) they need to face the music and stop acting like children. I understand they're all tired and on edge, but now is NOT the time to be sniping at each other, regardless of the circumstances. And this might get me flamed but I don't care, Hwayoung should've known better than to stir the pot by continuing to tweet those additional messages in a bid to gain public sympathy. She's only made this one hundred times worse than it already is, so I hold her just as accountable as I do the members who allegedly bullied her. They're all acting ridiculously immature, which is sad considering the majority of them are in their twenties and should be acting like adults. At any rate, ALL of them are old enough to know better. If they have problems or issues, that's fine. They obviously need some help sorting everything out. But to go about handling their issues like this is downright stupid, I'm quite disappointed in everyone who took part. Good on Areum and Qri for being adults and staying out of what is obviously a VERY messy situation.
    3 points
  20. If we only read all of T-ara's members tweets,it does seems like nothing serious and they were just talking to each other like always.However,what does make me worry it that: 1:Hyoyoung tweeted something about what's the use of having a pretty face when you're not on the inside?It's obvious she's describing someone from T-ara.I'm sure she won't say that to KKS. 2:Tarae,Hyoyoung's rap coach (and Hwayoung's too,if I'm not mistaken) said something like "They are big headed now.They forgot that they used to be a nobody..." 3:Hyoyoung also tweet about people should treat a person fairly and and s(he) is sick,treat them as a person. 4:Boram stop following her on Twitter and like crabmeatrangoon said,a few of Hwayoung's pictures on their twitter had been deleted. 5:Soyeon deleted her tweet about the whole determination thing.She must has realised that thing got worse and as a leader she should step aside. And yes,rather than tweeting a new post,Hwayoung should has stay low.Now thing got worse and worse. If you put two and two together,it does seems like the 6-ara and Hwayoung have something going on between them- and it's serious.
    3 points
  21. because of this I wrote that we just know one side of this and we are unaware of the other side!!! I just see them as discussion between friends I my self didn't like Hwayoung's recent tweet! it seems she wants to gain attention during this mess instead of adjusting things.... it's just ruining their friendship! it's not good! I hope this problem get solved & see all of them together laughing!
    3 points
  22. i dont really stay up to date with t-ara as much as i used to. i wasnt even aware hwayoung was hurt, but i guess thats why i wasnt seeing her in any pictures of their recent japan performances. makes sense now. when i first heard their was an anouncement being made (from their facebook page) i had no idea that this was the reason behind it. i was hoping it would be some kind of anouncement on future tour dates. (possibly america! keeping my fingers crossed for the future!) im still not sure whats going on. iread the story and the tweets, but i dont know korean and have to keep in mind when translated may not come off with the same tone and context as english. so it could be mistaken as harsh. or maybe it is harsh. i dont know, so i cant say for sure. but what i do know is : Hwayoung has come a long way after joining t-ara late. since her debut with the group she has changed the most out of any member. not only looks of course, but as far as stage presence, her rapping potential, (potential as a performer in general voice, dance) and her attitude in front of a camera is much more lively and fan friendly. if it's one thing i have seen from hwayoung its that she has been one of thee most hard working and dedicated members of t-ara. and not only t-ara but in all of the k-pop scene. so much that hwayoung has become my favorite member. i know there is alot that goes on that we dont see as fans. and i know there are times when even the best of friends have disagreements. so if these remarks are meant to be hurtful and to question hwayoungs dedication it comes off shocking to me, who as a fan has seen nothing but the opposite from her. thats all i can really say. ill just remain in good faith and hope its all just a misunderstanding. keep your head up hwayoung your fans will support you no matter what! same for the rest of t-ara! we're always with you.
    3 points
  23. The hate that EunJiMin and Soyeon are getting is so terrible. I can't believe that people are saying such terrible things about them when nothing has been confirmed; everything is just pure speculation. I specially feel bad for Jiyeon. She is getting torn apart on Korean sites like Naver and Instiz. The comments about her are disgusting. Most comments are hating on T-ARA members and supporting Hwayoung. I really want this announcement to come soon. This is getting out of control. I'm so upset that this is how T-ARA have to spend their 3rd anniversary day. Poor Hyomin, Jiyeon, Eunjung, Soyeon, Boram, and Qri. You 6 worked so hard to make it this far and now some people are completely ruining all of your hard earned success. My heart is breaking for them.
    3 points
  24. UGH! He is such an ass. This is not looking good. He better not punish any of the ORIGINAL 6 girls... I'm really disappointed with Hwayoung. She is making this situation so much worse by posting those things on twitter...
    3 points
  25. [12.07.28] Video HD - T-ara "Day by Day" @ Music Core + MC Cuts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gODdP4GQ1_k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay63pxpIZ-M&feature=player_embedded *** cr ; pp5408/namchn709
    2 points
  26. We will just have to wait for the news when it comes. Speculating will just make things worse in my opinion. Many times the speculations have been wrong. What I cannot stand right now are the naysayers especially the ones bashing T-ara members who do not even follow them. Reading comments "Oh, i don't really follow T-ara" yet feeling their opinions matter is ridiculous to me and I hate the thought that people will read comments and blogs and believe it as true. T-ara did not just start a few months ago, they have been in the industry for three years. I believe they are smart enough to know what to post on a social site. People are just twisting things around to have news to gossip about. I'm staying faithful to the group and will wait to see what unravels.
    2 points
  27. What about boram applauding hwayoungs acting skills on twitter right before she stopped following her?
    2 points
  28. I feel so, so, so depressed today. I´m afraid they disband them (but i think CCM has so much money into this, and they wont do it), so i think they are going to kick out someone or someone is going to leave the group, I´m very concerned about Eunjung´s reputation, because she is my bias, and i know she is marvelous, i don´t mind what other people think but this is a big moment for her i don´t want anything to ruin her carreer, and i want to have T-ara singing and dancing as always. one more thing if the tweets were indeed about Hwayoung. A few mesages can be named bulling? for me it would be a discussion, disagreement, but not bullining. THIS IS NOT FAIR TO MY T-ARA. And whatever that happed, Hwayoung tweets are not helping, and i´m really mad about her.
    2 points
  29. Time has come for KKS to reap what he sow... He's the very man who, since the end of Lovey Dovey's promotion especially, has torn apart T-ara with his stupids statements.
    2 points
  30. omfg i cant watch/interact with anything that involves T-ara anywhere or else this topic is brought up and unlike how its being discussed here, theres just all this hate towards EunJiMin ;_; This website us the only place i can go to for T-ara related things now without seeing all the hate and being at the verge of tears because of how many fans T-ara probably lost because of this incident...
    2 points
  31. sleepystudent So true, CCM's damage control sucks BIG TIME! SKream I don't have any notion that T-ara will stay as a group after they hit 5 years in the industry, they are only in their 3rd year now but because of the way they are treated by their management, breaking up seems not so far from them. But I will always hope that they will stay and treat each other like family. As for me, if ever this happens, I'll try to still be active in this forum as I am now and continue to support the girls the way I know how. T-ara fighting! T-ara fans fighting!
    2 points
  32. Wow I just read the Twitter thing. While I really hope it's just things blown out of proportion, I don't believe in coincidences. Being a self-taught pessimist doesn't help either. KKS would know better than to outright terminate any of the girls, but the idea of splitting up cripples both sides. I really hope it's an announcement of the dude giving them a real 1-2 week break, not for promos or babysitting Gangkiz or w/e, to cool off. T-ara's been crashing and burning for too long. Yeah simultaneously hacked, with no other tweets before or after being out of the ordinary and the questionable tweets still exist. That's what happened lol. I get mad at friends and family all the time, don't mean I seriously hate them. Hope it's just a vent for the group's overall frustration. Sucks that it's directed toward Hwayoung though... It's tough being a T-ara fan.
    2 points
  33. I got a bad feeling about this,please don't mess up with our Queens. And for their twitter "incident" I don't see any insult in their conversations,what's the big deal?get over it! True that netizens tends to exagerrate things.
    2 points
  34. [12.07.27] Video - T-ara Eunjung + Hwayoung @ KBS Vitamin 120725 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBNLiXZ3C7I *** cr:tiaragosubs5
    2 points
  35. omg I just read the twitter situation.....translations can never be TRULY accurate. Have Eunjung, Hyomin, Boram, Jiyeon, or Soyeon made a statement about this?
    2 points
  36. If that's the reason. It will actually be the first time I really appreciate Dani joining in early. I'm going to live in torture for the next two days .... :( :(
    2 points
  37. I hope it's not about the Twitter thingy, cos that's just dumb speculations by netizens who have nothing better to do. Gow in the world do those look like insults?! Hopefully, it's about Dani, or even better, KKS gonna leave CCM.
    2 points
  38. It's probably Dani joining T-ara officially. She did want to join with them sooner rather than later..even though KKS mentioned he wasn't sure if it was the right time maybe seeing a good reaction from fans during the concerts made him think this is the perfect time for her to join even if she isn't well prepared. Hopefully it has nothing to do with what some of us our worried about.. T_T
    2 points
  39. I'm so freaking scared & confused right now. That issue is getting bigger and bigger, netizens are even dissing Jiyeon about her ancient scandal FOR GOD'S SAKE, WHAT IS HAPPENING TO T-ara T__T it's a nightmare! Today is their 3rd anniversary; poor girls! they sure have a lot to deal with
    2 points
  40. I don't have a good feeling about this seriously CCM is not famous for giving "good" news about T-ARA and about the twitter issue I still don't get how it was an insult it is really confusing to me
    2 points
  41. I doubt it'll have anything to do with kicking any members out, which seems to be a rumor going around. Especially with all their success in Japan at the moment, I don't think CCM will risk anything that drastic. Still, I'm confused, if it's an apology for the tweets, wouldn't they have to retract their whole "hacked accounts" statement? I guess we'll see what happens.
    2 points
  42. [12.07.28] Core Contents Media's CEO to make a very big announcement regarding T-ara on the 30th With the recent attention on T-ara, Core Contents Media's CEO will make a big announcement regarding T-ara on the 30th. Core Contents Media said on the 28th, "Core Contents Media's CEO is currently in Japan for meetings and T-ara's Japanese concert and will return on the 30th. At 1 PM KST, he will make a very big announcement regarding T-ara." According to the press release, because of the unavoidable circumstance that arose from the situation, their agency will reveal their official position on the situation at a scheduled press conference. CEO Kim Kwangsoo will directly make a big announcement about the theory about Hwayoung being bullied. It's confirmed that he will announce a serious decision. Core Contents Media officials said, "Kim Kwangsoo has a lot of concerns. He'll take direct action to avoid any disruption to promotions." The content of the announcement is unknown, but it's likely related to the situation that happened recently on Twitter in which it looked like some members were insulting fellow member Hwayoung. Meanwhile, T-ara were in Tokyo on the 25th and 26th for their "Jewelry Box" tour at the Budokan arena. Because of an ankle injury, Hwayoung wasn't able to perform. *** Source: http://news.nate.com.../20120728n04647 Translated by: Nathaniel @ Diadem
    1 point
  43. Super long post, but hopefully its a good read for fellow concerned QUEEN'S. I'm willing to give the girls the benefit of the doubt regarding this whole bullying Hwayoung issue (but things are seriously looking very, very bad). But if they really are, I would be extremely shocked and totally disappointed in the girls. Having known them since debut, watching them gain popularity day by day with their hilarious variety shows and catchy songs, T-ara have always been the group to be able to put a smile to my face, rain or shine. It is so disheartening to see thousands of people coming to conclusions so easily about this bullying, calling JiEunMin and even Soyeon very foul names and calling QUEEN'S delusional for wanting to give T-ara a chance to explain. Years of hard work to gain fame and recognition all easily tarnished just by this situation. It's hard to see how T-ara will manage to recover from this, if they even can... Looking at it from a realistic point of view, it's hard to not agree that Hwayoung is being bullied by the other members (minus Qri and maybe Boram). T-ara always had 2 'subunits'; the "Originals" (Jiyeon, Eunjung, Hyomin) and the "Unnis" (Soyeon, Qri, Boram) and then there was Hwayoung who didn't fit into either group (but was typically grouped with Qri and Boram as the "Underrated" group by fans). Even I noticed from all of their variety shows that Hwayoung was always the outcast type; the members would talk to her and treat her normally but there were rarely ever any cute moments- or rather, any bonding- between Hwayoung and another member; at best it was Hwayoung having a derp moment like when she dropped the stack of cups in Pretty Boys and all the other members laugh at her for that. There was always a sort of invisible tension, a sort of coldness and neglect. Throughout Hello Baby Hwayoung was always just playing with Maden all alone by herself while the others were doing their own thing with Mason and Mavin. Also in the first episode of Star Life Theater, Hwayoung told the camera man that they were going to go practice for their concert and she said "right, Unnie?" to Soyeon who simply said "Mmm" and a second later gave Hwayoung a quick smile... this would have been okay, had Hwayoung not chuckle very, very awkwardly. That scene just felt totally off to me. Many fans (including myself) HATED the announcement that T-ara was getting a new member back in '10, with many reasons being that T-ara was fine as they were and that the addition was completely unnecessary (it still kind of was, honestly. Her addition had no effect on the success of YaYaYa, Why Are You Being Like This, Roly Poly, Cry Cry, etc. All it did was force the current T-ara members to have to RELEARN the choreography for previous songs and the members themselves expressed how unhappy- or rather, the difficulties they had- about that). Hwayoung essentially had a lot to prove to both the fans and the T-ara members themselves that she was a worthy member of T-ara. It was not until Lovey Dovey and Day by Day, nearly 2 years later, when 2 more members were added, did Hwayoung finally get to be recognized. Things were going so well for T-ara... No one had any idea that the members were potentially bullying Hwayoung. How can this be? And why would the girls publicly bash Hwayoung via Twitter? Since we have quite some time until the 30th major announcement, let's piece together the information (this is all PURE SPECULATION). 1. Hwayoung's addition to T-ara makes no contribution whatsoever, and actually had a detrimental effect: the girls had to relearn choreographies for past songs and now had to split earnings even more, not to mention they now had the awkward atmosphere of having a new member- or rather, a nobody (everybody starts off as nobodies!)- being thrown into the group. 2. As a result, T-ara members never fully "accepted" Hwayoung. They have 'accepted' that she was a part of T-ara because obviously they could not do anything about it and had to be professional, but they have never 'accepted' her as a part of them. This is seen on variety shows, where Hwayoung is always the outcast- always left out. She always was there, but she wasn't a part of them. This becomes even more evident when you see how Hwayoung treats Areum- always hugging her and smiling with her... they almost seem inseparable. Already you see Hwayoung having cute bonding moments with a NEW member... Something that you rarely, if ever, see her having with the original members despite the 2 YEARS she was with them. 3. Regarding the fabled CEO KKS and his rather... interesting... reputation, his ranting about T-ara being "lazy" and "full of themselves" makes sense if you consider the current situation. As fans who only saw T-ara as angels with a hectic schedule and 2 hour sleeps we immediately dismissed KKS's crude remarks, but if Hwayoung was really bullied via Twitter, chances are she was bullied behind the scenes too. She could've told KKS about this, prompting him to be outraged at the behavior of these members who became "full of themselves" and think they were "irreplaceable" to the point of adding in more members and threatening that he can remove anyone who continues to stir problems. As Hwayoung was the victim here, KKS decides to let Hwayoung have the spotlight with her raps for the Day by Day album, while JiEunMin and even Soyeon seemed to have diminishing lines. This can be related to KKS's statement of "no singing talent = no lines", although it is impossible to tell. The sudden change in line distribution could also stir jealousy and competition among the members. 4. Due to stress, lack of sleep, and a hectic schedule coupled with KKS's threats of removing them if they were lazy or mistreating each other, a lot of fans saw T-ara as a ticking time bomb, wondering when they would finally explode and always commenting "I wish they'd just leave CCM for good" or to "pull a KARA and file a lawsuit". But T-ara somehow continued to pull through with a smile, telling fans to not worry about their health and that they even want to continue acting along with doing music despite the whole no-more-acting-in-2012 thing. The members were, in a sense, absolutely "determined" that they could manage everything. They even had a big-scale concert- the Budokan, coming up, and they were practicing furiously for it. Eunjung herself stated, "We just want to enjoy the stage, without the pressure of being #1". 5. Unfortunately, last minute, Hwayoung injured herself, and was ultimately unable to perform at the concert, causing all the members who had extremely high hopes for the concert to become extremely disappointed. Since it was last minute, there was no way T-ara could adjust their choreography and line distribution; in essence, their month(s) of practices and preparation for the concert went down the drain along with their hopes of just being able to "enjoy the stage". The damage a lack of Hwayoung causes is evidently seen in the 120727 Day by Day performance on Music Bank where Hwayoung was absent- Hyomin outright had to look at a staff member who wrote the lyrics on a board for her to be able to pull off the rap and her clueless expression was saddening to watch. If the damage for one performance was so bad without Hwayoung, imagine the damage it had on a full scale concert and the resulting disappointment the girls would have. 6. How do the members react? They don't live together anymore, so they didn't handle it privately. They used Twitter to express their frustrations. The new member that joined 2 years ago that didn't really offer anything to the group and was outcasted, costed T-ara the chance to enjoy their first big-scale concert in Japan. Having been brainwashed by KKS to be extremely competitive-otherwise-be-kicked, coupled with their frustrations, T-ara couldn't handle it anymore and had to outright (indirectly?) bash Hwayoung on Twitter. "It's all her fault. She was not determined enough" Is basically what this whole Twitter bullying thing is about. It's not like other members were mad about the injury but rather the timing of it; others have been injured and/or absent before- that happened all the time and they were fine. But this time it happened on a big-scale event with high expectations. Hwayoung- someone who was potentially not liked in the first place- cost them BIG time at the Budokan. Members could potentially be thinking, this would have never happened if she never joined our group. We would have been fine without her (and they would be right. Eunjung and Hyomin are wonderful at rapping and T.T.L. is living proof of that). But still... for them to publicly lash at her and questioning her about her determination is something that even I cannot forgive T-ara for IF it happens to be true. 7. How does Hwayoung feel? DEVASTATED. If she really was bullied all this time and was an outcast... I can't even imagine the pain she had to go through. The T-ara members constantly mentioned that through all the tough times, they at least always had each other; a sort of second family. What about Hwayoung? Her most recent twitter mentioned that she at least has the support of her "family" and fans... whether T-ara is a part of her "family" is unknown... but if they haven't been all this time, then my heart goes out to her. Hyoyoung, being revealed by Hwayoung in Star Life Theater as the one who told the CEO to put Hwayoung into T-ara, must be feeling extremely guilty. She was the one that allowed this to happen- to let her younger twin, her "better half", be bullied by T-ara. "What's the point of having a pretty face if your inside isn't pretty?" she says is basically calling out one or more of the T-ara members. 8. CCM claims that T-ara couldn't have made those tweets and that they were hacked- this essentially means that the girl's tweets are acknowledged as insults, NOT ENCOURAGEMENT despite what translations may imply. Hell they could of sincerely thought this would be the only case, because they didn't know that Hwayoung was actually being bullied. Many people are laughing at that hacked statement, as it is "obviously B.S." but who knows. Maybe they were hacked (doubt it), maybe CCM said that specifically because they know it will attract even more attention- especially since they have a "major announcement" coming up. The major announcement did shift some of the focus off the bullying scandal and has instead made people pondering about what the major announcement could be, but overall the damage this whole issue has on T-ara's popularity- dividing the fandom, making thousands call the other members very crude names, and overall making the image of T-ara not as Queens of K-Pop but Queens of Cat-Fights is a very depressing event that makes the future of T-ara look very bleak. 9. Hyomin ended this by changing her picture (she changed it shortly after) to something that mentioned, "Everything happens for a reason" on Twitter. We shall *hopefully* see what this reason is, and pray for the better, on the 30th. T-ara hwaiting.
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  44. I don't think they were really insulting Hwayoung. And if the tweets were for Hwayoung, i don't think they will just say things about her if she herself didn't do something that will make the other members say bad things to her. I trust T-ara. Hope this issue will be resolved soon.
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  45. Love T-ara. Don't ruin them KKS.:| I believe that if it's not broken don't fix it. So KKS please stop adding changes to T-ara. Wish he will just announce the next leader.:|
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  46. I really don't see any point of bullying... in my opinion they were just discussing generally & it's misunderstanding! esp while Hyomin wrote Fighting at the end of her statement of course she didn't BULLY Hwayoung !!! they won't get angry to her because of injury of course.... they are professional, not kids to fight esp in tweeter where all people are able to see! they are like family & family members won't bully each other esp in public! no matter what I really believe in T-ARA, we all know them they won't do such things. to the people who called the other members b*tch, i'll tell i'm really sorry for you, you're just reading such things from internet, no one knows what really has happened! only GOD knows... shame on such persons for worsing the situation! omo, I'm stressed because of KKS announcement... he always make me sick! I hope everything become clear soon. T-ARA FIGHTING <3
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  47. i feel really sad for t-ara. thats all i can say at this point...
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  48. WTF ! KKS , what you need from my gurls.. just get the fukc out of their life ~~
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  49. Okay, I know it's a bit mean to Hwayoung but am I the only one who likes Eunjung's rapping at the beginning? Lol at Hyomin looking at the lyrics. I initially thought it was a fan board or something but when Hyomin finished singing, that fan/staff put down the board. Anyway, the performance was good but the formation looks extra weird without Soyeon and Hwayoung. Not that I am complaining that Eunjung sang a lot but why didn't they distribute Soyeon's lines to Areum? I thought she's suppose to "take some burden off" Soyeon ....
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  50. Ahreum didn´t impress me, her voice was just fine, (the song was an easy one) and her dance was really far to be as good as the dancers. And it seems that the only talent they can say about Dani is to be "cute" , if that can be named "talent", the girl doesn´t even know how to stand on stage or look at the public, and her rap was... like many people on street could rap, so what´s she bringing to T-ara? the cuteness of any other girl of 14 yeras old that should be singing at achool chorus? i know there´s not way back, but i still think the same, about their adition . Completely unnecesary and useless.
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